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[font="Verdana"]Andamans[/font]
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Japan sweep Port Blair catching the low CAP protecting the ships. We lose 11 Hurricanes for only 5 Zeroes. It will have to do for now though. Unloading won´t finish for 2-3 days more. 2 Pilots KIA and 2 WIA. I have 300 Hurricanes in the pool so I can do this for a while. Things will improve drastically once I can put the CAP up a bit higher and the radar is unloaded.

PS. Jeff says he wants to continue with the game so I guess we will do that. He will have to pick up the pace though or I will terminate it myself. 2-3 turns per week is not enough for me to keep interest up.

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

PS. Jeff says he wants to continue with the game so I guess we will do that. He will have to pick up the pace though or I will terminate it myself. 2-3 turns per week is not enough for me to keep interest up.

I can see why you'd have less interest now. You've fought a great battle and won it, and you know what the rest will be like to an extent.

I hope it keeps going though, because I think Japan still has a lot of fight, and I'd love to see how this kind of effort to hit the WC and the ensuing losses can be absorbed (or not) by the IJ economy.

It'll also be fun to see how you continue to push from your recently acquired footholds while Japan has been focused on the West Coast.

ORIGINAL: obvert
It'll also be fun to see how you continue to push from your recently acquired footholds while Japan has been focused on the West Coast.

Not sure there will be much pushing...I havn´t really done anything the last 30 turns or so...mostly just sorted WC and pressed end turn. Until I know for sure this game will pick up the pace I´m doing as little as possible. I have neglected planning and prepping for a while now. So once the troops I prepped earlier have landed I can´t really move forward.

Pretty stupid I know. But I just can´t motivate myself to spend time with the turns. [:(]

We shall see how things look from now on. Sent Jeff a turn this morning. If our usual pace holds I´ll get it Saturday or Sunday.

I would hate if this story ends. I am pretty curious how it would play long time...

ORIGINAL: Barb

I would hate if this story ends. I am pretty curious how it would play long time...

Yeah...me too!

[font="Verdana"]West Coast[/font]
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Got the turn back today! That havn´t happened in a very long time... [X(]

Allied main army shifts hex to Santa Ana today. There has been sporadic bombing by 4Es mostly to see what is there. From the looks of it there arn´t much in the way of defense in place.

2nd and 12th division together with 18th Tank regiment. Unless he can shift in more for tomorrow I think we will overcome them. If the allies are victorious here tomorrow the Japanese army on the West coast is doomed and the main force will be caught in LA.

Fingers crossed for tomorrow...

[font="Verdana"]Truk[/font]
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Arriving Truk or departing?

Those TFs SW of LA have not moved much. I wonder if they are barges, escorted by other ships to refuel - only way he could retrieve cadres of his units may have been barges.
DDs could have a field day with such a convoy ...

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Those TFs SW of LA have not moved much. I wonder if they are barges, escorted by other ships to refuel - only way he could retrieve cadres of his units may have been barges.
DDs could have a field day with such a convoy ...

Or he is congregating for an all-in, one-go type of deal. Can't think of another reason for any kind of pause, besides forgetting about it. Which is just not something that would happen here.

Not barges. Looks like a 1 BB TF. A CA/CL TF and a big transport TF together with 2 ASW TFs.

[font="Verdana"]Battle of Santa Ana[/font]
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Huge battle this turn. Its not a crushing victory but a mighty blow to the empire nonetheless.

Ground combat at Santa Ana (226,76)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 81585 troops, 1495 guns, 4262 vehicles, Assault Value = 3230

Defending force 119800 troops, 1466 guns, 1064 vehicles, Assault Value = 2995

Allied adjusted assault: 1483

Japanese adjusted defense: 989

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
7630 casualties reported
Squads: 53 destroyed, 408 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 145 disabled
Engineers: 24 destroyed, 69 disabled
Guns lost 219 (48 destroyed, 171 disabled)
Vehicles lost 122 (30 destroyed, 92 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2835 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 215 disabled
Non Combat: 63 destroyed, 63 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 117 (46 destroyed, 71 disabled)
Vehicles lost 149 (23 destroyed, 126 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
6th Armoured Division
8th Motorized Division
91st Infantry Division
3rd Marine Division
Provisional Tank Brigade
757th Tank Battalion
13th Armoured Division
2nd Armored Division
5th Armoured Division
44th Infantry Division
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
2nd Army Tank Brigade

Defending units:
1st Division
2nd Division
4th Ind Engineer Regiment
4th Division
18th Tank Regiment
16th Division
12th Division
9th Division
1st Tank Division
6th Guards Division
5th Guards Division
22nd Air Defense AA Regiment
3rd Air Defense AA Regiment
22nd Fld AA Gun Co
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
11th RF Gun Battalion
1st Fleet
305th Ship Eng Coy
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th RF Gun Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
15th Air Defense AA Regiment
2nd RF Gun Battalion
7th Air Defense AA Regiment
10th RF Gun Battalion
1st Air Defense AA Battalion
8th RF Gun Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
22nd Ind.AA Gun Co
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Air Defense AA Regiment
2nd Air Defense AA Regiment
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
12th Ind.AA Gun Co
56th JNAF AF Unit

Basically Jeff emptied LA completely and the troops managed to get into Santa Ana in the nick of time. The troops took a huge beating though and around 500AV is shaved off the main force. Allied forces suffer from disruption and will have to rest for 2-3 days. But only 14 tanks are disabled.

Japanese forces are now caught in the open without forts. The heavy artillery from LA will move in together with 2 fresh divisions and start working over the troops together with the 4Es.

I was considering starting to move out the 1600 AV from SD to threaten his rear but decided against it at this point. To early to call it a victory but it was the first step to one. I don´t think he will be able to recover the disablements suffered today in meaningful numbers.

[font="Verdana"]Reinforcements![/font]
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I bet this won´t make the emperor very happy either...

Looking good! He had an Op Mode - in that battle, which must mean the troops just arriving from LA were still in move mode.
Even though he lost 500 AV in the battle he may have brought a lot more than that from LA and it will be ready to fight next round.
Can you bombard to get a handle on the new AV level?
Do you have a feel for his supply situation (AA guns firing, etc.)? I'm thinking your success in sinking all those AKs a few turns back would have set him back in his supplies.

I don't see why you wouldn't move the troops up from San Diego now. There's no reason not to. The more pressure you put on his troops the better.

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Looking good! He had an Op Mode - in that battle, which must mean the troops just arriving from LA were still in move mode.
Even though he lost 500 AV in the battle he may have brought a lot more than that from LA and it will be ready to fight next round.
Can you bombard to get a handle on the new AV level?
Do you have a feel for his supply situation (AA guns firing, etc.)? I'm thinking your success in sinking all those AKs a few turns back would have set him back in his supplies.

Not sure I follow? [:)] The troops arriving from LA took part in the attack so their AV is accounted for?

Flak is still strong so I doubt supply is an issue right now for him. Losing 2-4 bombers per turn.

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I don't see why you wouldn't move the troops up from San Diego now. There's no reason not to. The more pressure you put on his troops the better.

There is still 28 units at Camp Pendleton and he can move quickly between CP and SA. I´m afraid to move out and get caught in the open in the clear hex without forts at CP with my SD army.

Don´t want to give him SD now that I fought so hard to deny him just that. [:)]

[font="Verdana"]West Coast[/font]
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Looks like he has given up on his troops. IMO they were doomed when Japan lost air superiority. Having the KB airwings shot to pieces over Camp Pendleton two weeks ago certainly didn´t help now.

Funny how such a small thing as 75 P47s can turn the tide of a whole war! [&o]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Looking good! He had an Op Mode - in that battle, which must mean the troops just arriving from LA were still in move mode.
Even though he lost 500 AV in the battle he may have brought a lot more than that from LA and it will be ready to fight next round.
Can you bombard to get a handle on the new AV level?
Do you have a feel for his supply situation (AA guns firing, etc.)? I'm thinking your success in sinking all those AKs a few turns back would have set him back in his supplies.

Not sure I follow? [:)] The troops arriving from LA took part in the attack so their AV is accounted for?

Flak is still strong so I doubt supply is an issue right now for him. Losing 2-4 bombers per turn.

I've never been too sure that all the AV of troops in move mode is counted in the raw AV of a combat. It seemed to me that enemy AV next round always seems better than it was prior despite losses. Just an impression - I don't catch enemy troops in the wrong mode often enough to be sure. Usually the Japanese are hunkered down behind forts and my troops are the ones moving in.

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Looking good! He had an Op Mode - in that battle, which must mean the troops just arriving from LA were still in move mode.
Even though he lost 500 AV in the battle he may have brought a lot more than that from LA and it will be ready to fight next round.
Can you bombard to get a handle on the new AV level?
Do you have a feel for his supply situation (AA guns firing, etc.)? I'm thinking your success in sinking all those AKs a few turns back would have set him back in his supplies.

Not sure I follow? [:)] The troops arriving from LA took part in the attack so their AV is accounted for?

Flak is still strong so I doubt supply is an issue right now for him. Losing 2-4 bombers per turn.

I've never been too sure that all the AV of troops in move mode is counted in the raw AV of a combat. It seemed to me that enemy AV next round always seems better than it was prior despite losses. Just an impression - I don't catch enemy troops in the wrong mode often enough to be sure. Usually the Japanese are hunkered down behind forts and my troops are the ones moving in.

AFAIK the full AV of the troops in other than Combat mode is counted. But, what I think you are hot on the trail of is that their adjusted AV will suffer the penalties of their mode, plus more vulnerability during various combat phases (artillery, etc.).