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that was unbelievable huge lose[:)] , the red army wasn't the same without Zhukov Rokossovsky Vatutin. very painful to lose them. especially the Su side is so short of good gernerals.

ORIGINAL: morvael

But that was because of my stupidity. I tried to relocate an army HQ to bring it out of encirclement in Pripyat Marshes, and with every relocate a general was dying, Zhukov was third in line and I clicked too fast without realizing who was in charge. I miss the rest of the best, which died later due to recon planes circling above their positions 30 miles behind the front:
Bobkin
Chuikov
Golovanov
Meretskov
Reiter (23 victories, 4 defeats)
Rokossovsky
Vatutin

I have to be content with what I have left, new leaders are released later in the game so I have some 7s and 6s. I try to get rid of the worst ones (morale or initiative 3), but sometimes they return due to political reasons. Was trying to kill them by moving the HQ close to front, but it seems only the good ones die that way. I think cpt flam lost some of his famous leaders as well.

[:D]fun to read your comment, i am a novice here and am learning how to play Su especially, so your aar would be very helpful to me[:)]

ORIGINAL: morvael

I have to be content with what I have left, new leaders are released later in the game so I have some 7s and 6s. I try to get rid of the worst ones (morale or initiative 3), but sometimes they return due to political reasons. Was trying to kill them by moving the HQ close to front, but it seems only the good ones die that way. I think cpt flam lost some of his famous leaders as well.

Northernmost area of action at the end of my turn 106, for your viewing pleasure.

Kalinin Front is advancing from it's positions behind Volga river where they spent almost a year and a half (they were badly beaten in '41 and had very low-morale divisions). Northwest Front broke the weaker German position west of the lake (occupied by the now-4=22). Thanks to that, a cavalry corps was sent to outflank the 2-division group defending in great terrain (the corps itself was protected from flanking by the smaller lake). As expected, cpt flam didn't risk an encirclement there and withdrew, which for sure saved a few thousand Soviet footsloggers.

ORIGINAL: mktours
[:D]fun to read your comment, i am a novice here and am learning how to play Su especially, so your aar would be very helpful to me[:)]

Thanks, but this is cpt flam's AAR, I'm only a guest here. I'm glad he let me in, as at start I was completely noob player (had just one '41 and one '44 campaign as the Axis vs AI under my belt). By trial and error (and millions of lives lost), I have learned a little about how to play Soviets. I like building armies and defensive play, so this is a good army for me. Now I just have to learn how to be bold and quick on the offensive.

turn 107
one more time classical action

losses from my attacks
17 340 men, 325 Art, 73 AFV & 138 AC
32 810 " ", 740 " ", 313 "" & 217 ""

this is a view from all my fast divisions
I have more men in pool as i disbanded 23 FZ

pools
18 960 men (+ 6K)
212 900 VEH (+ 2K)
293 099 ARM (- 50K)
3030 Hiwis

32 tanks in a panzer division! I have more in a battalion... The person responsible for German tank production should be sent to penal battalion.

My boys for comparison (from the start of my turn 107):

I do like my cavalry corps as well:

this time Morvael was better then me to inflict russian losses
I lost my 7th leader : Materna (XX corps)

7-8 no more possibility to be proud

losses
3 460 men, 60 Art, 4 AFV & 20 AC
6 310 " ",155 " ", 0 " " & 52 ""

pool
30 150 men(+ 11K)
217 300 VEH(+ 4K)
256 135 ARM(- 37K)
6 950 Hiwis

ORIGINAL: cpt flam

this time Morvael was better then me to inflict russian losses
I lost my 7th leader : Materna (XX corps)

It's clearly a good turn for the SHC. He can afford such losses, you cannot.

Can we have a view of the OOB?

I will put it next turn

ORIGINAL: STEF78
It's clearly a good turn for the SHC. He can afford such losses, you cannot.

Can we have a view of the OOB?

I cannot afford such losses infinitely (my arm and manpower pools go down each turn), but I think I can afford them longer than cpt flam, and that's the plan for now. Worthy of Soviet Union brilliant strategists [:)]

i would love to see some tank pools in this game

Dear cpt flam, dear morvael,

Great late game AAR. Thank you about that.

What sort of beautiful maps did you use and where can I get it?
Is it necessary that both of you are using the same sort of such map?

Late? I think it's only midgame now

All information and download links to the new map are here:
tm.asp?m=3327255

It's not necessary for both players to use it.

turn 109
Stef78 here come the OOB

and the german pools
18 950 men(- 11K)I disbanded an army airbase and 3 forts
219 600 VEH (+ 2K)
243 258 ARM (- 13K)
1 730 Hiwis

We have bad news from Crimea [X(]

few attacks create losses
16 240men, 355 Art, 44 AFV & 13 AC
27 900 "", 630 "",268 "" & 187 AC

ORIGINAL: juret

i would love to see some tank pools in this game

here they are (from the end of my turn 109):