ORIGINAL: witpqs
Then how about forget opposing the sweeps? Put in lots of AA to oppose the bombers when (if) they come.
Wherever the Eye of Mordor is turned, look someplace else.
It look's like you are cracking the steel egg! Congratulations on the progress. OK, so Palembang will take a dog's age to conquer (if you bother at all!). If it can't be bombed, it can be blockaded. As you get bases closer he will not be able to protect shipping in the area.
[:D] Obvert is right. You need to defend your ships. The AA alone can't stop the enemy bombers. Even if you place lots of heavy AA, a fully crowded AF will be ruined if a swarm of Helens arrive...and the transports in the harbours get targeted by the enemy bombers too... no, you need to have CAP in the air unfortunately
Look, for example, what happened just last turn (it's like that every day):
Dec 27, 44
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Morning Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 45,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 49 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 80
Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 6
Spitfire Vc Trop x 10
Spitfire VIII x 12
F4U-1D Corsair x 12
P-38L Lightning x 10
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 21
P-51D Mustang x 27
F4U-1D Corsair x 10
F6F-5 Hellcat x 55
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
37 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet
33 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet
8 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet
CAP engaged:
VF-34 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 37300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
VF-42 with F6F-5 Hellcat (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 37300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
VF-8 with F6F-5 Hellcat (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 37300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
VC(F)-21 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 37300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
VMF-121 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 39000 and 39300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
No.16 Sqn RNZAF with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
No.18 Sqn RNZAF with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire VIII (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41500 , scrambling fighters between 40000 and 41000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
No.85 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
No.54 Sqn RAF with Thunderbolt II (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters to 40000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
18th FG/44th FS with P-51D Mustang (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41900 , scrambling fighters to 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
58th FG/69th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters between 34000 and 42000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
18th FG/70th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters to 41000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
58th FG/311th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters between 40000 and 42000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
318th FG/333rd FS with P-51D Mustang (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41900 , scrambling fighters to 41900.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
475th FG/431st FS with P-38L Lightning (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 40000 , scrambling fighters between 36000 and 40000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
475th FG/433rd FS with P-51D Mustang (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41900 , scrambling fighters to 41000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Makassar , at 65,106
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 44,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 33
Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 6
Spitfire Vc Trop x 10
Spitfire VIII x 12
F4U-1D Corsair x 9
P-38L Lightning x 10
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 21
P-51D Mustang x 27
F4U-1D Corsair x 10
F6F-5 Hellcat x 51
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
33 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet
CAP engaged:
VF-34 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 1 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 37000 and 37300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes
VF-42 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 37300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
VF-8 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 37300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
VC(F)-21 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 37300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
VMF-121 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 39000 and 39300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
No.16 Sqn RNZAF with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
No.18 Sqn RNZAF with F4U-1D Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire VIII (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41500 , scrambling fighters between 33000 and 41500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
No.85 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
No.54 Sqn RAF with Thunderbolt II (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters to 42000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
18th FG/44th FS with P-51D Mustang (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41900 , scrambling fighters between 36000 and 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
58th FG/69th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters to 42000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
18th FG/70th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters to 40000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
58th FG/311th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000 , scrambling fighters between 40000 and 42000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
318th FG/333rd FS with P-51D Mustang (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41900 , scrambling fighters to 41900.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
475th FG/431st FS with P-38L Lightning (3 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 40000 , scrambling fighters to 40000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
475th FG/433rd FS with P-51D Mustang (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41900 , scrambling fighters to 41000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
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Afternoon Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 44,370 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 43
Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 36
P-51D Mustang x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
J7W1 Shinden: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 5 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x J7W1 Shinden sweeping at 39370 feet *
CAP engaged:
23rd FG/76th FS with P-38L Lightning (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 12 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 40000 , scrambling fighters between 35000 and 40000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
80th FG/89th FS with P-38L Lightning (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 40000 , scrambling fighters between 36000 and 40000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
311th FG/528th FS with P-51D Mustang (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 41900 , scrambling fighters between 37000 and 41000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
The butcher's bill of the day, with sweeps only in these two locations, is 40 to 6 in his favour...I'm rotating my units on CAP...but the results are always the same...no matter what I do (layered CAP, only high alt CAP, only a single plane model CAP....doesn't really matter)
BTW, the Java campaign is proceeding fine in the south. The enemy is fleeing from Medioen, going north, where Batavia and the other Japanese bases still hold fine. The plan is to keep on pushing until we reach Batavia also from the south and to push the enemy back into a single base in the inner part of Java...so to create a huge pow camp for 200k men
At the same time, my armies are already on the move for the next steps...
Palembang cannot be conquered...absolutely impossible. Supplies never seem to finish there, despite it's been sieged and completely isolated (and bombed!) since July 1944!... i'll leave them there... it cannot be used as a port for the enemy so the oil present there cannot be moved anymore. It's a pain cause I had really hoped to use it but I gotta let it go.
The 8th US Army is so diverted for other objectives...will leave the II US Corp there in order to keep it under control and some 2E bombers will keep the AF shut.
The DS is on the move again. 4 CVTFs of 400 planes each, along with 4 SCTFs and several ASW TFs, are moving towards the South China Sea...CVE-TFs will cover the landings, while the CVs will move aggressively