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RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:36 am
by ny59giants
My mindset is almost always to prep for an invasion of India even if it doesn't happen. Thus, one or two American divisions go there. Don't forget a few DB groups and some AA units.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:53 am
by Lowpe
Mr. Kane alluded to a strategy using all your bombers to fly in supplies to China. I think he eventually may have had around one 1000 total supplies being flown in daily thru bombers and transports. Or perhaps he didn't do this but theorized it was possible.

You sacrifice a lot to do that...but you might save China.

Of course the idea got a lot of flak when presented: Why would Japan allow you to do this unmolested, etc., etc. Still, I think the idea has some merit, especially for the weaker British bombing arm which is very vulnerable (I am thinking Blenheims here).


RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:19 pm
by HansBolter
I would be willing to bet that it was hypothetical.

It would take considerable time to get every "useless" bomber there in the first place.

It would take a massive buildup of the airbase infrastructure in NE India to support it and it would be necessary to transport massive numbers of base forces there to keep the planes flying.

It might be an interesting experiment to try, but the logistics of it seem really daunting.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:59 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: HansBolter

I would be willing to bet that it was hypothetical.

It would take considerable time to get every "useless" bomber there in the first place.

It would take a massive buildup of the airbase infrastructure in NE India to support it and it would be necessary to transport massive numbers of base forces there to keep the planes flying.

It might be an interesting experiment to try, but the logistics of it seem really daunting.

You are quite correct, and the bombers aren't useless...there is quite an opportunity cost in training, search, ASW, and bombing to be made. Perhaps too great.

But I mention it, because with the Pearl going on perhaps there is a chance, however, small to do something like this. It is worth a little brainpower I think.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:25 pm
by JocMeister
I don´t really have any "intentions" yet. It depends on where Nick will go. I usually buy out the 27th and send them to OZ/SOPAC. But this time the WC is under threat and even though a WC invasion is extremely unlikely I have to be ready for it.

The 5th Chinese Corp could make a decent speed bump in Burma and would be valuable in the future as well. But its also a great roadblock into the mountains from Burma when Nick gets there. Besides once they are trashed I can buy them out cheaper.

The 3 BDEs on Ceylon is pretty useless (40/40) where they are right now. But if places behind the big forts at Karachi and Bombay they can probably make a big difference. So this is what I´m leaning towards right now. My gut feeling says Tom will come for OZ/SOPAC though. And if he does having the 27th ID there could make a huge difference.... decisions decisions....

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:37 pm
by Lowpe
So what are you drinking tonight?

A little hair of the dog? Mmmm., yummy!

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:45 pm
by JocMeister
ORIGINAL: Lowpe

So what are you drinking tonight?

A little hair of the dog? Mmmm., yummy!

You won´t believe this... I´m drinking...

COFFEE! [X(]

Have to get up like crazy early tomorrow (even by my standards) for a 3 hour drive.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:16 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: JocMeister

I don´t really have any "intentions" yet. It depends on where Nick will go. I usually buy out the 27th and send them to OZ/SOPAC. But this time the WC is under threat and even though a WC invasion is extremely unlikely I have to be ready for it.

The 5th Chinese Corp could make a decent speed bump in Burma and would be valuable in the future as well. But its also a great roadblock into the mountains from Burma when Nick gets there. Besides once they are trashed I can buy them out cheaper.

Is the 5th the one with the "American" OOB? I don't have the game handy. If it is that one should not be trashed If you can help it. I recall a lot of really good arty.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:49 pm
by JocMeister
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Is the 5th the one with the "American" OOB? I don't have the game handy. If it is that one should not be trashed If you can help it. I recall a lot of really good arty.

Yeah I think so. On the phone and I can´t be bothered to start the computer! [:D] If it is they do have some decent arty. But only with "Chinese standards". Some 75mm guns if I recall correctly.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:50 pm
by JocMeister
No turn from Nick yet so I´ll be signing off until Sunday! Have to try and get some sleep.

Keep me off page 2 or heads will roll! [;)]

EDIT: Just when I wrote that a turn showed up. You will have to wait for the update though! [:D]

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:24 pm
by Lokasenna
Yes, that's the 5th Chinese Corps.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:23 pm
by JeffroK
That IJA push past Paotow, where is it heading?
Do you know where his airborne units are?

Is there a back door into India?

I did a trial and flew in troops from the NW Frontier to Kashgar and tried an offensive with some quality CW troops.
Same route could be used in reverse?

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:51 pm
by BBfanboy
Paotao is the gateway to the far north, especially Urumchi with its oil production. Some other IJA players have gone for that lately.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:33 am
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Paotao is the gateway to the far north, especially Urumchi with its oil production. Some other IJA players have gone for that lately.

For all the good it's done them.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:41 am
by Lowpe
Lok is being sarcastic, Urumchi is very hard to get to export its goodies.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:50 am
by ny59giants
Lok is being sarcastic, Urumchi is very hard to get to export its goodies.

The secret is to suck Manchuria and Korea dry creating a need. The AI will sense this and then pull out the fuel and oil from China.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:55 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Lok is being sarcastic, Urumchi is very hard to get to export its goodies.

The secret is to suck Manchuria and Korea dry creating a need. The AI will sense this and then pull out the fuel and oil from China.

It just doesn't come from Urumchi, though. I've sucked Manchuria/Korea dry of Fuel - what Urumchi produces mostly just stays there. It ships out so infrequently and in such small quantities that it's not really worth it. Like maybe 2K per week. I'll look at the base numbers in my game as soon as Tracker loads up. I have an AAR update to make anyway.

On the other hand, I only had to use a few tank regiments to capture the north. If only Stannis could do the same.

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:09 pm
by JocMeister
I figure its a very long walk for him. And he can have the North if he wants to. I´ll hang on to Lanchow if I can though...

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:43 pm
by KenchiSulla
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
If only Stannis could do the same.

You could always burn your kin and hope they have the blood of royalty....

RE: Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Olorin (J)

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:43 pm
by KenchiSulla
ORIGINAL: JocMeister

I figure its a very long walk for him. And he can have the North if he wants to. I´ll hang on to Lanchow if I can though...

Lanchow is a key location. How are you defending it?