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ORIGINAL: VikingNo2

It's called a Sommergibile, in the 8.0 Italian OOB

Armed with a 100mm gun, two 13.2mm MGs and a torpedo

ORIGINAL: VikingNo2

Yes your right ofcourse but wouldn't it be fun to kill a Sherman with a torpedo[8D]

ORIGINAL: Kevin E. Duguay

Another unit with no use in this game scale. Sub's, cruisers, whats next? A full scale Icon of a battle ship?

ORIGINAL: VikingNo2

Now this is really getting of topic, but is there a game for sea combat that set up like Steel Panthers ?

ORIGINAL: harlekwin

ORIGINAL: VikingNo2

It's called a Sommergibile, in the 8.0 Italian OOB

Armed with a 100mm gun, two 13.2mm MGs and a torpedo

INDEED.


Um, I am betting it is a cause celebre and a designer's "tool"....
I would disregard it as it is not really germaine to a land combat game in 99.9999999999% of cases.....

ORIGINAL: Kevin E. Duguay

Another unit with no use in this game scale. Sub's, cruisers, whats next? A full scale Icon of a battle ship?

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Kevin, my friend, did you forget that in amphibious assault missions you can purchase destroyers, rocket ships, cruisers and battleships as off-board fire support?

ORIGINAL: Kevin E. Duguay

Another unit with no use in this game scale. Sub's, cruisers, whats next? A full scale Icon of a battle ship?

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

This is still in the OOBs, classed as an LCS. A naval unit, in case you didn't notice. It's a scenario design tool. You guys DO support new scenarios being developed, don't you?

ORIGINAL: harlekwin

ORIGINAL: VikingNo2

It's called a Sommergibile, in the 8.0 Italian OOB

Armed with a 100mm gun, two 13.2mm MGs and a torpedo

INDEED.


Um, I am betting it is a cause celebre and a designer's "tool"....
I would disregard it as it is not really germaine to a land combat game in 99.9999999999% of cases.....

ORIGINAL: VikingNo2

It's a LARGE Torpedo LOL

But seriously, I could see a very large map were your landing force gets harrased by a sub, I played a game against Bernie where there was a large river running through the middle of the map and we both had Gunboats battleing each other. As well as fighting tanks.[&o]

ORIGINAL: VikingNo2

It's a LARGE Torpedo LOL

But seriously, I could see a very large map were your landing force gets harrased by a sub, I played a game against Bernie where there was a large river running through the middle of the map and we both had Gunboats battleing each other. As well as fighting tanks.[&o]

ORIGINAL: Tombstone

Man, text communication isn't a good replacement for face to face discussion eh? Touchy touchy everybody. Isn't ok if people complain? The key for me has always been to LET THEM.

Anyways, forum administrators shouldn't get in drawn out discussions about these kinds of things. If Harlekwin, Keke, and Rune have crossed the line then do whatever enforcement is the policy of the forum. If they have not, then who cares. The forum is providing part of it's service, and that is a place for people to register concerns. We're all allowed to have opinions on what the best way to voice those concerns are, but to each his own really. UNLESS they have crossed the line, of course, then you enforce the forum policies. It is simple, and it must stay simple or things get ugly. It looks like this is turning into a test of power, and that is going to look bad no matter how it turns out. Keke, Rune, and Sven seem to be disenfranchised to the point of not caring if you ban them, that sucks.

This thread doesn't have ANYTHING to do with OOBs anymore... Some of us need to realise the people working on the oobs are the people working on the oobs. It is their perogative to ignore us, that certainly sucks for us... and perhaps there is a reasonable argument that it sucks in general, but that's all it is... an argument. People gotta calm the hell down and get back to the enjoyable part of this sh t. Folks on our side should just sit on it for now and wait for 8.2 and then start up a non-crazed dialog regarding the oobs. I know from being on the development side of things that strong opposition tends to force the designers to defend their decisions too much... and that results in spending more time rationalizing and not enough on questioning.

Tomo

Tomo

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Tomo, you have hit the nail on the head. Not only forum administrators but the top man, Dave Heath, have gotten drawn into this. Steps have been taken to address the problems, but apparently more drastic action will have to be taken. It will be done. Enough is enough. The perps have been identified, and they will be the first to respond, or else they will just shut up and let us go about our business. To the troublemakers-- this is your final public warning. Any more spamming or trolling will result in your banning from the Matrix forums. If this is done, and you come back under a different name, I will simply delete your posts. This crap has to stop, now.

ORIGINAL: Tombstone

Man, text communication isn't a good replacement for face to face discussion eh? Touchy touchy everybody. Isn't ok if people complain? The key for me has always been to LET THEM.

Anyways, forum administrators shouldn't get in drawn out discussions about these kinds of things. If Harlekwin, Keke, and Rune have crossed the line then do whatever enforcement is the policy of the forum. If they have not, then who cares. The forum is providing part of it's service, and that is a place for people to register concerns. We're all allowed to have opinions on what the best way to voice those concerns are, but to each his own really. UNLESS they have crossed the line, of course, then you enforce the forum policies. It is simple, and it must stay simple or things get ugly. It looks like this is turning into a test of power, and that is going to look bad no matter how it turns out. Keke, Rune, and Sven seem to be disenfranchised to the point of not caring if you ban them, that sucks.

This thread doesn't have ANYTHING to do with OOBs anymore... Some of us need to realise the people working on the oobs are the people working on the oobs. It is their perogative to ignore us, that certainly sucks for us... and perhaps there is a reasonable argument that it sucks in general, but that's all it is... an argument. People gotta calm the hell down and get back to the enjoyable part of this sh t. Folks on our side should just sit on it for now and wait for 8.2 and then start up a non-crazed dialog regarding the oobs. I know from being on the development side of things that strong opposition tends to force the designers to defend their decisions too much... and that results in spending more time rationalizing and not enough on questioning.

Tomo

Tomo