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RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:21 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Quiz 5
1. I have a counter in WIF
2. I did survive WWII
3. How I survived I'll never know - I certainly put myself in harm's way during WWII
4. I fought in one of the most well known of WWII naval encounters.
5. I am a light cruiser
6. I am a blue counter who is best known, No.4 aside, for my exploits in the Mediterranean
HMS Pepperpot [;)]

Oops. I ment to write HMS Penelope that I know is the wrong answer since she was lost during the war. But I am at a loss of thinking of a light cruiser that fits.
warspite1

The big clue here is no.4. What very famous engagement happened, outside the med, that involved at least one light cruiser?

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:22 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Patton_71

ok #1...Fuso/Yamashiro?
warspite1

Patton_71 nice try, but I have re-checked my records and there was no ship named Fuso/Yamashiro in WWII [:D]
Be nice. [;)] I suspect that he guessed on the ships Fuso or Yamashiro and since I suspect that it could very well be one of these two ships I will refrain from answering.
warspite1

I was being nice - I have practically confirmed that it is one of these two. That is very gentlemanly to let Patton_71 have the guess first.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:25 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Quiz 5
1. I have a counter in WIF
2. I did survive WWII
3. How I survived I'll never know - I certainly put myself in harm's way during WWII
4. I fought in one of the most well known of WWII naval encounters.
5. I am a light cruiser
6. I am a blue counter who is best known, No.4 aside, for my exploits in the Mediterranean
HMS Pepperpot [;)]

Oops. I ment to write HMS Penelope that I know is the wrong answer since she was lost during the war. But I am at a loss of thinking of a light cruiser that fits.
warspite1

The big clue here is no.4. What very famous engagement happened, outside the med, that involved at least one light cruiser?
Doh! I was so into the hunt for Bismarck that I completely forgot about the Battle of the River Plate.

HMS Ajax?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:26 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm



HMS Pepperpot [;)]

Oops. I ment to write HMS Penelope that I know is the wrong answer since she was lost during the war. But I am at a loss of thinking of a light cruiser that fits.
warspite1

The big clue here is no.4. What very famous engagement happened, outside the med, that involved at least one light cruiser?
Doh! I was so into the hunt for Bismarck that I completely forgot about the Battle of the River Plate.

HMS Ajax?
warspite1

Bingo! [:)]

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:27 pm
by warspite1
...and so, after Patton gets "his" right, that leaves just one left.....

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:30 pm
by Orm
Grey and then blue and the first... I feel I am firing blanks at the moment. Slow brain and such. Maybe time to wake up and use the brain cells...

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RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:37 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm

Grey and then blue and the first... I feel I am firing blanks at the moment. Slow brain and such. Maybe time to wake up and use the brain cells...

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warspite1

Clue: So what did the RN catch a lot of, in the early part of the war especially?
Second Clue: My Grey generic counter is not the same type as my later blue one.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:03 pm
by Centuur
Who am I?

1. I have no counter in WiF, however, I was part of one

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:28 am
by Patton_71
I know!!!!

Leonard Lipshits!

He was on Patton's staff during the invasion of Sicily!!!

Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!?[8|]

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:00 am
by tigercub
no that was the guy patton slapped!...and if patton was not such a good leader it would be over for him!

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:19 am
by warspite1

[quote]ORIGINAL: warspite1

Quiz 6
1. I do not have my own counter in WIF
2. I did not survive WWII
3. I begin WIF as one type of generic counter and then become another
4. I have a blue counter
5. I was the first of my kind
6. In real life I started the war as a grey counter (until March 1940) and finished my life as a blue counter.
7. I was sunk by a u-boat in December 1941

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:44 am
by Orm
ORIGINAL: warspite1

Quiz 6
1. I do not have my own counter in WIF
2. I did not survive WWII
3. I begin WIF as one type of generic counter and then become another
4. I have a blue counter
5. I was the first of my kind
6. In real life I started the war as a grey counter (until March 1940) and finished my life as a blue counter.
7. I was sunk by a u-boat in December 1941
I have to surrender on this one. I do not know name or story of any German merchant captured by CW and then put to use in another role by CW.

With that said I decided to look it up on wikipedia so now I know the story. [:)]

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:08 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Quiz 6
1. I do not have my own counter in WIF
2. I did not survive WWII
3. I begin WIF as one type of generic counter and then become another
4. I have a blue counter
5. I was the first of my kind
6. In real life I started the war as a grey counter (until March 1940) and finished my life as a blue counter.
7. I was sunk by a u-boat in December 1941
I have to surrender on this one. I do not know name or story of any German merchant captured by CW and then put to use in another role by CW.

With that said I decided to look it up on wikipedia so now I know the story. [:)]
warspite1

Well no one else seems to be playing so I will end it there. The answer is HMS Audacity, the first escort carrier. She was a German merchant vessel - the Hannover - until captured by HMS Dunedin. She was converted and gave brief, but invaluable service, in escorting convoys between Gib and the UK (iirc).

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:49 am
by Extraneous
ORIGINAL: warspite1

Well no one else seems to be playing so I will end it there. The answer is HMS Audacity, the first escort carrier. She was a German merchant vessel - the Hannover - until captured by HMS Dunedin. She was converted and gave brief, but invaluable service, in escorting convoys between Gib and the UK (iirc).



The first escort carrier was USS Long Island (AVG-1, CVG-1, and CVE-1) (ex Mormacmail (USA)) commissioned June 2, 1941

The first British escort carrier was HMS Audacity (D 10) (ex Hannover (German), ex Sinbad (British), and ex Empire Audacity (British)) commissioned June 17, 1941

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:22 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Extraneous
ORIGINAL: warspite1

Well no one else seems to be playing so I will end it there. The answer is HMS Audacity, the first escort carrier. She was a German merchant vessel - the Hannover - until captured by HMS Dunedin. She was converted and gave brief, but invaluable service, in escorting convoys between Gib and the UK (iirc).



The first escort carrier was USS Long Island (AVG-1, CVG-1, and CVE-1) (ex Mormacmail (USA)) commissioned June 2, 1941

The first British escort carrier was HMS Audacity (D 10) (ex Hannover (German), ex Sinbad (British), and ex Empire Audacity (British)) commissioned June 17, 1941
warspite1

USS Long Island was the first escort carrier to be commissioned. However, by any other measure Audacity was the first of her kind.

No doubt because of America's greater production capacity (or maybe because conversion was easier (Mormacmail having been built originally under USMC contract) Long Island was converted quicker. However:

Audacity was taken for conversion earlier than Long Island January vs March
Audacity was the first escort carrier to see operational service
Audacity was the first escort carrier to escort a convoy (13th September 1941) - n.b. Long Island was used mostly as a training and ferry carrier.

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:08 pm
by Extraneous
Project commissioning is the process of assuring that all systems and components of a building or industrial plant are designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained according to the operational requirements of the owner or final client. A commissioning process may be applied not only to new projects but also to existing units and systems subject to expansion, renovation or revamping.

Ship commissioning is the act or ceremony of placing a ship in active service, and may be regarded as a particular application of the general concepts and practices of project commissioning. The term is most commonly applied to the placing of a warship in active duty with its country's military forces. The ceremonies involved are often rooted in centuries old naval tradition.

Just because it started project commissioning first doesn't make it the first escort carrier. This can take extremely long periods of time (if ever) to complete.

When the ship begins active service with its country's military forces makes it the first escort carrier.

USS Long Island was commissioned into its country's military forces first so it is the first escort carrier.



http://www.royalnavyresearcharchive.org.uk/ESCORT/AUDACITY.htm
HMS AUDACITY was the first escort carrier built for the Royal Navy : originally launched March 29th 1939 as the German passenger-cargo liner MV Hanover, she was captured by HMS Dunedin on March 8th 1940 trying to run the blockade in the West Indies, before she could be scuttled by her crew.

Impressed into service by the Admiralty she was initially renamed Sinbad. She was commissioned as an Ocean Boarding vessel on 11 November 1940 as HMS Empire Audacity. This was a short lived as she was selected for conversion into Britain's first escort carrier. Work commenced in Bootle on January 22nd 1942, the conversion was completed by Blyth Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company Northumberland. Work was completed in early June 1941. The ship re-commissioned on June 17 as HMS Audacity.


Naval History Net Service Histories by Name, Type, and Class
First Royal Navy Auxiliary Aircraft Carrier which, as German mercantile HANNOVER, was captured on 8th March 1940 when intercepted in the West Indies by HM Cruiser DUNEDIN and HM Canadian Destroyer ASSINIBOINE. She had been laid down for use as a Refrigerated Cargo Ship and had completed build at Bremen in May 1939. The ship was requisitioned by the Admiralty and in November 1940 was taken in hand for conversion as a Ocean Boarding Vessel named SINBAD. However in January 1941 she was selected for deployment as the first mercantile to be converted for use as an escort aircraft carrier. The changes made included removal of existing superstructure to allow fit of a wooden flight deck for the full length of the ship. The work was carried out by Blyth Dock SB and the ship commissioned as EMPIRE AUDACITY on 20th June 1941. Ballast had to be added to ensure stability and this ship was fitted with a new design radar for aircraft warning purposes, Type 79B. The first of this type, which used only one mast had been fitted in HM Battlecruiser HOOD shortly before her loss in May 1941 (See RADAR AT SEA by D Howse.) Six fighter aircraft were to be carried and had to be kept on the flight deck as no hangar was provided. The name was changed to HMS AUDACITY after conversion in order to avoid confusion with other mercantiles entering service after September 1939 either as new or captured vessels used for trade.


http://www.navsource.org/archives/03/001.htm
Named for the body of water between the southern shore of Connecticut and the northern coast of Long Island, N.Y. (A previous USS Long Island was a converted steam trawler which retained her original, civilian name).
Built under a Maritime Commission contract (hull number 47) as the civilian freighter Mormacmail (1st,) type C3-S-A1, for the Moore-McCormack Lines (Mooremack.) Sponsored by Miss Diane B. Holt, the 16-year old daughter of Mr. George L. Holt, vice president of Mooremack.
Acquired by the Navy on 6 March 1941.
Converted to an aircraft carrier by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Co., Newport News, Va. Initially designated APV-1, but re-designated and commissioned as AVG-1 June 2, 1941.
Reclassified as an "Auxiliary Aircraft Carrier" and re-designated ACV-1, 20 August 1942.
Reclassified as an "Escort Carrier" and re-designated CVE-1, 15 July 1943.
Fate: sold to Zidell Ship Dismantling Co., Portland, Oregon 24 April 1947 for scrapping. Resold to the Canada-Europe Line, 12 March 1948, and converted for merchant service as Nelly by Albina Engineering & Machine Works, Portland, OR. Sold to the University of the Seven Seas (1953), renamed Seven Seas (German flag) and converted into a school ship. Hulked at Rotterdam as a floating students hostel (1966), later to become a local hostel for shipyard workers. Scrapped at Ghent, Belgium (May 1977).
The Kaiser or Casablanca Class were the first escort carriers to be built as such from the keel up.


RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:59 pm
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: Patton_71

I know!!!!

Leonard Lipshits!

He was on Patton's staff during the invasion of Sicily!!!

Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!?[8|]
No, you don't...

Who am I?

1. I have no counter in WiF, however, I was part of one
2. From 1914 till 1964 I was in the army, when there was one in my country...

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:05 am
by Centuur
Who am I?

1. I have no counter in WiF, however, I was part of one
2. From 1914 till 1964 I was in the army, when there was one in my country...
3. I was called before a court of honor and among my judges, there were two WiF counters. I was found "not guilty, but still a suspect".

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:11 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1


warspite1

Patton_71 nice try, but I have re-checked my records and there was no ship named Fuso/Yamashiro in WWII [:D]
Be nice. [;)] I suspect that he guessed on the ships Fuso or Yamashiro and since I suspect that it could very well be one of these two ships I will refrain from answering.
warspite1

I was being nice - I have practically confirmed that it is one of these two. That is very gentlemanly to let Patton_71 have the guess first.
warspite1

Looks like Patton_71 has given up so...

....the answer was Yamashiro

RE: OT - WWII quiz

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:03 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: Centuur

Who am I?

1. I have no counter in WiF, however, I was part of one
2. From 1914 till 1964 I was in the army, when there was one in my country...
3. I was called before a court of honor and among my judges, there were two WiF counters. I was found "not guilty, but still a suspect".
Clue two made me think of Germany but I can't think of a General that fits.