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RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:40 pm
by kevinkins
Many.
Today = 0; I would imagine. It's an entirely different geopolitical landscape today. But it would be interesting to see if there are any American scientists employed by Chinese Universities and if they are working on military related projects. Of course "military related" can be broadly defined. For example, material science can provide technology with both military and civilian implications.
Kevin
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:16 pm
by Dysta
ORIGINAL: kevinkin
For example, material science can provide technology with both military and civilian implications.
Do Physicists count?
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/02/ ... itizenship
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:44 pm
by kevinkins
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Do Physicists count?
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No, these two individuals do not. I hope you have not searched all day to find these old men as examples since you are validating my point without knowing you are [:)] I am talking about today's scientists born, raised and educated in America possibly being employed by a Chinese University related to China's military research establishment. Please search for those young American scientists and/or engineers and see what you find. Let's PM this. Thanks.
Kevin
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:58 am
by Dysta
Christ, I stepped into your minefield, thanks for your...
excessive... politeness though.
And not to forget, how outrageous would that be if Chinese military fans found out their advanced stuffs are developed by foreigners, even with Chinese citizenship only. This is both nationalistically and politically unacceptable for millitary branches, and possibly civilian sectors. The government's openness for foreigners to enter Chinese R&D does not prove they're trustworthy until they understand the benefits outweight the concern, maybe a decade later.
The best examples would be the Ukrainians' aids for Chinese aircraft carriers, heavy cargo aircrafts and attack helicopters. I don't hear any foreigners are dual-citizenship (with other western countries) or a Chinese descendent involved with those, and at that time China can't make anything better by themselves yet.
Or put it in rather dark perspective: Americans
does helping China with military projects, passively and without consent. That news about F-35 down below is the prime example, giving it to the adversaries will defeat the purpose of what F-35 are made for:
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Senates want to stop the F-35 deal to Turkey, but they can still have two of them 'for training' until a proper handover in 2019:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/21/turkey- ... kheed.html
EDIT: Nope, not handed over.
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And it gets better after the
Sea Dragon leak: US Boston arrested Qin for smuggling submarine warfare devices to China:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/chin ... -submarine
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:15 pm
by Hongjian
So, the US intelligence did know about the chinese railgun for quite a while, it seems. Why the all the surprise, tho?
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/21/china-w ... eport.html
US intelligence report: China will have the world's most powerful naval gun ready for war by 2025
The warship-mounted electromagnetic railgun is expected to enter China's arsenal by 2025, according to sources with direct knowledge of a U.S. intelligence report.
Railguns have long appeared on Russian, Iranian and U.S. military wish lists as cost-effective weapons that give navies the might of a cannon with the range of a precision-guided missile.
China's railgun is capable of striking a target 124 miles away in under 90 seconds, according to the report.
China is currently testing the world's most powerful naval gun and people with direct knowledge of a U.S. intelligence report say it will be ready for war by 2025.
Railguns use electromagnetic energy instead of gunpowder to propel rounds, and China's is capable of striking a target 124 miles away at speeds of up to 1.6 miles per second, according to the report. For perspective, a shot fired from Washington, D.C., could reach Philadelphia in under 90 seconds.
Railguns have long appeared on Russian, Iranian and U.S. military wish lists as cost-effective weapons that give navies the might of a cannon with the range of a precision-guided missile.
The rounds used in China's railgun cost between $25,000 and $50,000 each, according to the intelligence assessment. Though not an exact comparison since the weapons have different technologies, the U.S. Navy's Tomahawk cruise missile has an estimated price tag of $1.4 million each.
China's railgun was first seen in 2011 and underwent testing in 2014, according to people who spoke to CNBC on the condition of anonymity. Between 2015 and 2017 the weapon was calibrated to strike at extended ranges, increasing its lethality. By December 2017, the weapon was successfully mounted on a warship and began at-sea testing, a feat no other nation has accomplished.
The U.S. Navy's railgun, years away from being operational, remains a classified system still in development under the Office of Naval Research.
China's sprint to develop a weapon of this magnitude comes on the heels of Beijing's recent deployment of missile systems to fortified outposts in the South China Sea.
The railgun coupled with the new coastal defense systems represents a significant addition to China's military portfolio in one of the most contested regions of the world.
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:09 am
by Dysta
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:26 am
by Hongjian
Might be the first time seeing the new smart-fuzed air-burst 76mm anti-missile rounds in action. Here, a PLAN Type 071 LDP is doing an anti-ship cruise missile defense test, using its PJ-26 76mm naval gun.
Long rumored to be in testing, now apparently deployed for the 76mm dual purpose naval guns of the PLAN. Each 76mm round contains a "high-precision time fuse" that uses a muzzle system, comparable to the Oerlikon AHEAD concept, detonating 222 pieces of prefrabricated tungsten alloy fragments towards the frontal arc. It suppossedly can intercept incoming supersonic missiles at 3km to 10km.
Previously, we have seen a model of the round, as well as excerpts from research papers.
China already deploys the AHEAD-concept with their own PGZ-07 SPAAGs, armed with AHEAD-enabled copies of the Oerlikon 35mm AAA guns that the PLA acquired in the 80s. So, the technology for muzzle-programmed time fuze is well understood.
And in previous arm sale shows, China is offering the truck-based SA-2 76mm AAA compatible with these smart rounds.
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:49 am
by Dysta
Melara and AK-176 are capable to use 76mm as a CIWS as well. This will significantly increase the 056's survival rate against AShM, given by a bigger caliber than 57mm (MK-100) and 35mm (SkyShield).
And 76mm gun is not clumsy too, if only it can have bigger capacity:
https://youtu.be/nESfMlI19jY
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:03 am
by ExNusquam
This is an interesting summary of Russian Air Ops over Syria. The author assess that the Russians appear to have issues with target development and operational use of carrier aviation, but have been able to sustain high sortie rates for almost the entirety of the conflict.
https://www.cna.org/CNA_files/PDF/COP-2 ... -Final.pdf
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:46 pm
by Hongjian
New YJ-62 AShM variant spotted with secondary IIR seeker.

RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:25 am
by Filitch
21 June during drills the missile couldn't leave VLS at German frigate F219 Sachsen and burnt out. Two are injured.

RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:40 pm
by Hongjian
http://www.atimes.com/article/icebreake ... r-carrier/
Interesting article on a recent open tender for a nuclear icebreaker for China. Obviously, such an endeavor would be useful to test nuclear propulsion for China's CVN program.
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:03 pm
by Dysta
Beforetime the Chinese floating NPP was planned a year ago. There are two competing reactor models: ACP100 and ACPR50S, either one will complete a prototype around early-2020s. If CNNC (ACP100) has won an icebreaker, then they got better odd for floating NPP as well.
https://www.popsci.com/china-floating-nuclear-reactors
ACP100:
https://www.iaea.org/NuclearPower/Downl ... spects.pdf
ACPR50S:
https://www.iaea.org/INPRO/13th_Dialogu ... _CGNPC.pdf
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China Coast Guard will handover from State Ocean Administration to People's Armed Police on 1 July. PAP is under PLA administration since the first day of 2018 as well, signaling the military involvement will be extended to coastal authorities:
https://www.twitter.com/PDChina/status/ ... 6360513537
http://www.atimes.com/article/chinas-co ... -into-pla/
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:08 am
by Filitch
More photos of incident with F219 Sachsen

RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:08 am
by Filitch
More photos of incident with F219 Sachsen

RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:09 am
by Filitch
More photos of incident with F219 Sachsen

RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:09 am
by Filitch
More photos of incident with F219 Sachsen

RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:19 pm
by Hongjian
This is really unfortunate. But at least the missile didnt explode.
The poor Bundesmarine. First that fiasco with that oversized 7000 ton corvette-armed Baden-Wurttemberg class and now this.
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:33 am
by Broncepulido
and none of six sbmarines operative the last year...
RE: Naval and Defense News
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:40 am
by AlGrant
For info ...
First UK F-35 takes off from RAF Marham
https://twitter.com/StnCdrRAFMarham/status/1012278797415174144
Also showing on 360Radar[8D]
