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Well, the information is on the german Lexicanum site:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.de/wiki/Kinebrach

Die Kinebrach waren etwas kleiner als Menschen und breit und muskulös gebaut. Sie besaßen eine blau-schwarze Haut sowie eine rötliche Körperbehaarung. Sie sahen affenähnlich aus, mit breitem Schädel und riesigen Brauenwülsten, unter denen die kleinen schwarzen Augen kaum zu sehen waren. Mitten im Gesicht befand sich eine Schnauze mit dreigeteiltem Schlitz, der sowohl Nase als auch Mund war: Wenn die Lappen nach außen gestülpt werden, schnüffeln die Kinebrach. Wenn der Schlitz geöffnet wird, sind kleine spitze Zähne sichtbar. Von den Kinebrach geht ein erdiger Geruch aus. 1 T3K1

Als Soldaten des Interex tragen die Kinebrach Ganzkörper-Rüstungen in Braun und Gold. 1 T3K1

It basically says what I've wrote above: smaller and sturdier than humans, black-blue skin, reddish fur, small black eyes. Ape-like looks, broad skull with large bulging eyebrows and a snout with a three-parted slot that functioned as both nose and mouth. They also had an earthy smell and wore the same armour as the soldiers of the Interex, except their armour was brown and gold (not red and bronze like I said before).

It lists the novel "Horus rising" (part 3 chapter 1) as source, but I've never read the book myself, so I cannot confirm if that is actually true. I haven't seen this kind of information on the english lexicanum or the 40k wiki, but I've no real doubt that it's true.

Well, there's not a whole assortment of space monkey pictures available, so furry blue-ish white gorillas will have to do. If anyone dares to dispute this they will be buried in a pile of assorted skulls.

I actually had no idea they were the Kinebrach, and could have sworn that they were previously the Kinebranch. I changed it though and it will be fixed in the next update. I suspect the work of GW extremists.

And why/how does everyone manage to speak two or more languages? Ya'll make me feel like some backwoods, uncultured hillbilly from some obscure rust-belt city or something.

I also want to take a moment to discuss my master plan (for the mod). I plan to separate the eras so that players can choose to play in 30k or 41k sort of like how they can choose to play in shadows or normal. Yes, this means Tau, Chaos and Dark Eldar as well as 'nids which I already had decided to do. I even have some cheap fluff thought up to insert as a story that no one will ever read.

I may, however, reconsider adding the pirate races. They don't really work out as planned.

After space monkeys, have some space bears. Or space squids depending who you ask. Warhammer 40K is a strange place.

I also want to take a moment to discuss my master plan (for the mod). I plan to separate the eras so that players can choose to play in 30k or 41k sort of like how they can choose to play in shadows or normal. Yes, this means Tau, Chaos and Dark Eldar as well as 'nids which I already had decided to do. I even have some cheap fluff thought up to insert as a story that no one will ever read.

Oh, great. Now I've even more work to do and I thought I was done with chaos...just kidding [;)]
I always hoped you would do such a thing. [&o]

I may, however, reconsider adding the pirate races. They don't really work out as planned.

What's the problem with the pirate races? Personally, I think that is the only way the Dark Eldar would function in DW.

Yay, Tau Empire [:D]

And I have never liked playing as pirates cause they just lose purpose after a few decades.

Well, so far I have a list of things that are wrong with making pirate only races.

-Game freezes on map creation without normal empires that are the same race as the pirate empires. Example: I set only Dark Eldar to be capable of being pirates and launch the game without any normal Dark Eldar empires. Game freezes at map creation and has to be alt-f4'd.

-Game freezes during map creation without more than 4 pirate races if you set the pirate frequency high.

-The Dark Eldar pirates start with nothing. No ships, no bases, nothing. I seem to recall seeing something about this in the error forums, but it only happens with the Dark Eldar.

-Randomly freezes at map creation or changing theme to WH40k mod. No real explanation because I didn't change anything and it worked after restarting.

This all leads me to suspect that the game is either schizophrenic or just doesn't like the concept of pirate-only races. I will still be adding the Dark Eldar and the Brotherhood of Ruin, though, just not Freebooterz or Rak'Gul.

I also want to just split this mod into two separate mods at this point, one for 30k and one for 41k. It will be necessary because most of the 30k races are just ash sandwiched between layers of sedimentary rock by the time 41k comes around. So I wanted to ask you guys to give me some race names that are still around in 41k so I can add them for that.

-Game freezes on map creation without normal empires that are the same race as the pirate empires. Example: I set only Dark Eldar to be capable of being pirates and launch the game without any normal Dark Eldar empires. Game freezes at map creation and has to be alt-f4'd.

-Game freezes during map creation without more than 4 pirate races if you set the pirate frequency high.

-The Dark Eldar pirates start with nothing. No ships, no bases, nothing. I seem to recall seeing something about this in the error forums, but it only happens with the Dark Eldar.

-Randomly freezes at map creation or changing theme to WH40k mod. No real explanation because I didn't change anything and it worked after restarting.

Well, that explains why I was never able to play as pirates. However, I think the Dark Eldar as a regular empire would feel weird. They don't colonise or conquer planets. The Rak'Gol on the other side, are perfectly fine as a regulary empire though.

As for Chaos, do you have anything special in mind with them? Will you add only one chaos faction (not counting the Laer) or will you have one for each god plus one for Chaos Undivided?

Wait, pirates didn't work before? I never had problems with them until I tried making pirate only races. It wouldn't surprise me though; this would not be the first time unexplainable errors have been reported. I'm not sure what to do with the Dark Eldar at this point. They have always been a purely pirate empire in every case so they may just get left out.

For Chaos the Brotherhood of Ruin will represent Chaos undivided and the Laer will be for Slaanesh in the 30k version. I have no plans for any other Chaos gods in the 30k one, unless someone can present me with something to work with. In the 41k version I will just have Chaos as a race and they will as usual represent Chaos undivided with Abbadon the Despoiler as their leader. Prepare for the Black Crusades!

I would also like to make a separate Shakturi storyline for 41k that involves the Tyranids. That seems pointless though, seeing as how we really don't know what triggers them or if we can do it without completely toning down the entire mod. By that I mean to say that just like Warhammer 40k is sci-fi turned up to 11, this mod is Distant Worlds turned up to 11. I don't think turning it back down to 5 or 6 would be worth having some storyline for.

Admittedly I am kind of excited to make the 41k version. I wanted to do something different by covering the Great Crusade era, and I feel we have nearly achieved that. Now people will get to see how the universe evolved over that 10,000 year period and play in scenarios in the beginning and the end.

Please just promise us that you'll finish 30k first, in the event that you burn out/get tired of DW:U...

So many great mods die out because the project lead got over-ambitious then just quit

Wait, pirates didn't work before? I never had problems with them until I tried making pirate only races. It wouldn't surprise me though; this would not be the first time unexplainable errors have been reported. I'm not sure what to do with the Dark Eldar at this point. They have always been a purely pirate empire in every case so they may just get left out.

I tried to play as pirates with this mod only one time and the game froze. I'm sure it was one of the issues that you mentioned. Personally, I don't think leaving the DE out would be a big loss, even as much as I like them.

For Chaos the Brotherhood of Ruin will represent Chaos undivided and the Laer will be for Slaanesh in the 30k version. I have no plans for any other Chaos gods in the 30k one, unless someone can present me with something to work with. In the 41k version I will just have Chaos as a race and they will as usual represent Chaos undivided with Abbadon the Despoiler as their leader. Prepare for the Black Crusades!

Wasn't the Brotherhood a bunch of chaos orks? I've no idea about the 30k Chaos, but may I offer a suggestion for the 41k version? Have five chaos factions, call them "Servants of [chaos god/Chaos Undivided]" and make them like a dark mirror image of the Imperials in regards to troops: have renegade soldiers as normal troops, Chaos Space Marines as armored troops and Demons as special forces. The Chaos Undivided forces could be based on the Black Legion (with Abbadon as Leader) or the Word Bearers, the Nurgle forces on the Death Guard, the Khorne forces of the World Eaters,...you get the idea. That way, a player could form his own Chaos force/warband/empire/political entity by conquering other Chaos forces.

The same idea would also work great for an Ork Waaagh! made from different Ork Klans.

Cap to be honest I am already kind of burned out of actually playing though I still get a lot of enjoyment from modding. The thing about me is that if I say I am going to do something I do it, so no worries. The 41k version isn't really over ambitious though, it's basically just going to be a re-skinning of the 30k one with tweaks to races. Besides, the only hobby project I have going on other than this requires me to learn java... The only things that would stop me at this point are death, incarceration or sudden abject poverty.

Japhet - That's strange that no one reported that. Must not be a whole lot of people of bother with pirates. One solution for the DE might be to limit them to one planet and give them less cumbersome victory conditions, perhaps grabbing lots of slaves and building a webway gate to Commoragh or something.

The Brotherhood was a Chaotic band of abhumans with Ork allies, something almost unheard of.

I really like that idea concerning Chaos and Ork warbands as separate races and I will go with it. I will make Undivided and the Warboss led Orks major races and the others minor races. We could still use a couple more minor races even after those inclusions, so keep your eyes open. Just note that some races like Stryxis and Tarellians are still around in 41k so we don't need to cover them.

Progress on the facilities goes well and I aim to release this update sunday. I could use more feedback on the tech trees though, critiques/bug reports/opinions/etc are all welcome and encouraged.

That's strange that no one reported that. Must not be a whole lot of people of bother with pirates. One solution for the DE might be to limit them to one planet and give them less cumbersome victory conditions, perhaps grabbing lots of slaves and building a webway gate to Commoragh or something.

That could work and I like the idea of slave victory condition.

I really like that idea concerning Chaos and Ork warbands as separate races and I will go with it. I will make Undivided and the Warboss led Orks major races and the others minor races.

That's very good to hear [:)], but what's the difference between major and minor races again? In terms of the Orks which Klan will be the major one? The Goffs?

We could still use a couple more minor races even after those inclusions, so keep your eyes open. Just note that some races like Stryxis and Tarellians are still around in 41k so we don't need to cover them.

What is the total number of races you have actually in mind? There are many other races mentioned on the wikis, but most of them are too obscure even for 40k nerds. Besides the ones in my pack (Kroot, Vespids, Zoats, Demiurg, Niscassar), I can think only of the Slaugth as interessting or the Scaephylyds, which are chaos worshiping insects (and could use the Laer art).

Btw, in one of my recent necron games, I came upon one of the race messages. Seems that the necrons are very very sorry for siding with the shakturi (or c'tan, it's up for interpretation) and their plans of galactic genocide [:D]

One thing I've noticed a lot is that troop ships only pick half of the troops they could. I usually manually order my troop carriers to pick up ground forces from my homeworld (which is always overflowing with all types,) but they always only pick up 800 of 1600 unit slots. Is this a normal bug with the game?

I have seen that too + that troop ships sometimes loose all fuel while they pick up troops.

Well, that may be due to fuel shortages. I've had times when all ships constructed don't have fuel when they're built. Also, apparently the game gives resource priority to the station before the planet, so if the space station is overloaded with construction and has insufficient resources, construction on the planet (such as colony ships and constructors) freeze.

But going back to the troop carriers, it seems regardless of how improved they are they only ever pick up half their carrying capacity. Now they have 2000 slots but pick up only 1000.

Also: something that may not be mod related but is still a bug. When you invade and exterminate a populace from a neutral planet and the planet becomes uncolonized, when you then colonize it again with your own race there are revolts (by your own species) as if your extermination policy was continuing with them.

And while I'm ranting, I should mention that the upgrade AI seems to give out sometimes. I'll have games where I'm never prompted to upgrade ships/bases after the first decade, and have to do it manually (yes the checkbox for prompts is selected)

I just want to pop in and thank you, mensrea, for the mod! I am a big Warhammer fan and this mod is really scratching an itch that I had for years. Cheers!

With regards to troop transports, do you guys and gals have modified the troop loadout modifier? I thought that that setting was set to loading 50% infantry standard and this would explain the half-full troop ships.

I always go for 100% armour because nothing else works. I mean if i go for 25% soldiers, 50% armour and 25% special troops, only armour will be loaded anyway. No mather how many i have of all others. (So I set 100% armour as default ofcourse.)

That fuel problem i mentioned in a post above this one is really anoying. Is that only happening for me?

Finished a new version of the combined pack. It now features the Nicassar (I think I spelled them wrong), Kinebrach, Slaught and some stuff for the Scaephylyd (Khorne worshipping Sluken). Also, the Zoats have a ship set now, the Chaos factions have their own ui & troops and I also restructured the Ork and Eldar folders and added some icons for a non-race-specific ui. Have fun:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/hgc2d ... K+pack.rar

As far as remaining minor races go, I would suggest the Q'Orl http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Q%27orl (Blackstorks Yor art would be fitting), the Thyrrus (crazy squids: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Thyrrus) and the Nekulli http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nekulli

In regards to the pirate race problem, I think the Star Trek mod has pirate only races like the Marquis. Maybe ehsumrell1 knows how to get them to work. I could be wrong though, it's been a while since I played that mod.

Troop issue - I made it so my troop transports can hold more troops but apparently that doesn't register with the AI. Nothing can be done about that as far as I know.

Fueling issue - In general users and the AI will be making bigger fleets so I think what it comes down to is gas not being restocked fast enough by freighters.

Dohon - Thanks and I am glad you like the mod. What is your favorite race?

Cap, you should really report that colonization bug, that doesn't sound like it could be mod related. The manual upgrade thing sounds like a normal game bug too. Thanks for the art, by the way. I think we will nearly be covered as far as the major races go, and it looks like the minors too. I will check out the Star Trek mod or talk to Mr.Sumrell about it if I can't work it out further.

Finally, here is the mod: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/561 ... 20v.11.zip

I had to remove some of the art, mostly the GEM stuff, as well as the music. I had my public folder for dropbox temporarily suspended yesterday for hogging up too much bandwidth. Until I can find another host to put the other stuff on this will have to do. I will also be removing the legacy files for now. If someone could provide a link for the music and GEM art as some sort of media pack in the interim it would be greatly appreciated.

Also, about this update, I was kinda short on time due to an unexpected event yesterday so I didn't do write ups for the wonders descriptions or change pictures for facilities at all. Just cosmetic really, but I do plan to take care of that.

Here's the changelog:

v.11 changelog
-complete facility rework. 100 facilities in total now, 70 of which are wonders. more than every other tech line has a wonder to research
-added Dark Eldar
-fixes to tech tree
-added some new super techs, removed unnecessary legacy techs
-fixes to character art for new system
-many racial fixes and general racial balancing
-removed better star/planet/etc graphics and most music due to issues with dropbox

UI and character portraits for the Stryxis. I think the Auretians and the Quietude are last races I will do. Then I will focus on actually playing the mod [;)]
Since Blackstork has given his permission to use his art, I would suggest using it for some of the races:
Interex -> xHumans
Diasporex -> Humans

And, provided that they are featured in one of the mods:
Q'orl -> Yor
Nicassar -> Wekkarus (if the squid look is used)

mensrea - go with mediafire or 4shared, both work well for most people. The later doesn't actually require a facebook or twitter account (I don't have any of those).

Good stuff, Japhet. There is one thing I'm concerned about though, are we adding enough skulls? I mean, not counting the skulls that are actually in peoples heads, shouldn't there be some extraneous skulls, decorative skulls, tastefully arranged skull piles, etc? What's your take on this potential faux pas?

I think I will put the media stuff on mediafire and keep using dropbox for the actual data.

I also wanted to take a minute and say that the mod is basically out of beta now, and releasing on time, short of any bugs that are revealed later on. I still have some balancing with races left, but that's more a best practice than a necessity. After that we have characters and AI left as major updates and the addition of the Brotherhood and Tyranids. Compared to vanilla, we are about equal then, as vanilla has neither a great character system or any AI system. Celebratory Warhammer pictures on the thread are welcome.