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Re: Australian Beauties II
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 11:56 am
by RangerJoe
Zovs wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 11:19 am
Arnt Battleships supposed to be named after states? Even though this might be a Trump class, the naming should be USS Washington or USS New Mexico, right?
Also, did not WW2 teach us that the Aircraft Carrier and not the Battleship was the way to project force?
Don't prepare to fight the next war with the last wars tools, tactics, and strategy.
Re: Australian Beauties II
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:05 pm
by Lobster
Zovs wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 11:19 am
Arnt Battleships supposed to be named after states? Even though this might be a Trump class, the naming should be USS Washington or USS New Mexico, right?
Also, did not WW2 teach us that the Aircraft Carrier and not the Battleship was the way to project force?
The U.S. doesn't have the shipyards, the labor force nor the money ($15 billion each) for the number of huge ships to replace the Burke destroyers. Hitler tried to do this same thing by making bigger and bigger tanks but it didn't work out so well. Like Stalin said, quantity has a quality of it's own. Many smaller ships with highly advanced systems and drone support would be a better strategy for today's seaforce. Ukraine has shown what tomorrows naval warfare will look like. It's not huge ships.

Re: Australian Beauties II
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:02 am
by Zovs
Thanks RangerJoe, and Lobster,
Those were basically my thoughts as well.
Re: Australian Beauties II
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:33 am
by RangerJoe
Lobster wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:05 pm
Zovs wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 11:19 am
Arnt Battleships supposed to be named after states? Even though this might be a Trump class, the naming should be USS Washington or USS New Mexico, right?
Also, did not WW2 teach us that the Aircraft Carrier and not the Battleship was the way to project force?
The U.S. doesn't have the shipyards, the labor force nor the money ($15 billion each) for the number of huge ships to replace the Burke destroyers. Hitler tried to do this same thing by making bigger and bigger tanks but it didn't work out so well. Like Stalin said, quantity has a quality of it's own. Many smaller ships with highly advanced systems and drone support would be a better strategy for today's seaforce. Ukraine has shown what tomorrows naval warfare will look like. It's not huge ships.
This ship would be the main force projector in an area. It would have to have smaller escorts which could eliminate most if not all of the short ranged threats.
As far as naming goes, the system that was previously used appears to be gone. Submarines named after fish and other aquatic creatures, aircraft carriers after battles, and so on.
Re: Australian Beauties II
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 8:40 pm
by gamer78
Lobster wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:05 pm
Ukraine has shown what tomorrows naval warfare will look like. It's not huge ships.
Ukraine and Syria didn't show anything. Anyway not to politics, no safe air&land zone for an early NATO member but then asking EU for military expenditure, very much irony.
Re: Australian Beauties II
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2025 10:55 am
by Zovs
RangerJoe wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:33 am
Lobster wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:05 pm
Zovs wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 11:19 am
Arnt Battleships supposed to be named after states? Even though this might be a Trump class, the naming should be USS Washington or USS New Mexico, right?
Also, did not WW2 teach us that the Aircraft Carrier and not the Battleship was the way to project force?
The U.S. doesn't have the shipyards, the labor force nor the money ($15 billion each) for the number of huge ships to replace the Burke destroyers. Hitler tried to do this same thing by making bigger and bigger tanks but it didn't work out so well. Like Stalin said, quantity has a quality of it's own. Many smaller ships with highly advanced systems and drone support would be a better strategy for today's seaforce. Ukraine has shown what tomorrows naval warfare will look like. It's not huge ships.
This ship would be the main force projector in an area. It would have to have smaller escorts which could eliminate most if not all of the short ranged threats.
As far as naming goes, the system that was previously used appears to be gone. Submarines named after fish and other aquatic creatures, aircraft carriers after battles, and so on.
Thanks Ranger Joe
Re: Australian Beauties II
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:11 pm
by RangerJoe
Zovs wrote: Mon Dec 29, 2025 10:55 am
RangerJoe wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:33 am
Lobster wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:05 pm
The U.S. doesn't have the shipyards, the labor force nor the money ($15 billion each) for the number of huge ships to replace the Burke destroyers. Hitler tried to do this same thing by making bigger and bigger tanks but it didn't work out so well. Like Stalin said, quantity has a quality of it's own. Many smaller ships with highly advanced systems and drone support would be a better strategy for today's seaforce. Ukraine has shown what tomorrows naval warfare will look like. It's not huge ships.
This ship would be the main force projector in an area. It would have to have smaller escorts which could eliminate most if not all of the short ranged threats.
As far as naming goes, the system that was previously used appears to be gone. Submarines named after fish and other aquatic creatures, aircraft carriers after battles, and so on.
Thanks Ranger Joe
You are most welcome Zov!