RE: Wild Sheep Chase
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:56 am
by obvert
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As a parting shot to the game we did a post-game test run with different settings on the last turn. It taught me some things, even to the last here.
If setting a bombardment, no matter what you think you might need, go for flank speed if you really need to get there. This turn the BBs arrived in Moppo, got creamed by a bunch of CLs and DDs, and two were sunk with the rest slinking back damaged. The IJN CLs did well, as did the CAs, and survived the encounters for the most part. Lots of small ships were sunk.
I also have some things to wonder about and test more. The sweeps I sent to Moppo, nearly 1,000 planes total, didn't really do much in spite of huge numbers coming in together. I've noticed this a lot in the later game with the Japanese sweeps, less so with the Allied big sweeps. They seem to devastate CAP, where ours had very small results for the number of planes involved. Watching the replay it seemed to be only about 10-15 actual engagements before they all broke off and the next groups arrived. Nothing like 200 passes. Maybe it was just the thunderstorms in Moppo this day.
Here are some edited reports.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 1, 45
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 12,000 Yards
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 2 destroyed
SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 4, on fire
BB Yamato, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1
BB Musashi, Shell hits 10
BB Fuso, Shell hits 14, on fire
BB Ise, Shell hits 4
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 9
DD Hinoki, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Kashi, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Kaya, Shell hits 1
DD Nara, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Tsubaki, Shell hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Keyaki, Shell hits 1
DD Yanagi, Shell hits 19, and is sunk
DD Odake, Shell hits 8, heavy fires
DD Kaba, Shell hits 3
Allied Ships
CL Birmingham, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
CL Vicksburg, Shell hits 4, on fire
CL Dayton, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
DD Hugh W. Hadley, Shell hits 1
DD Wallace Lind
DD Massey
DD Gregory, Shell hits 1
DD Longshaw
DD Terry, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DD Van Valkenburgh, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
DD Waller
DD Benham II
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 57% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
Lange M. crosses the 'T' -------------------------------------------Tanaka is in command of the IJN here
CL Vicksburg engages DD Yanagi at 12,000 yards
DD Kashi engages DD Benham II at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
DD Van Valkenburgh sunk by BB Mutsu at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
BB Musashi engages CL Birmingham at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DD Yanagi sunk by CL Dayton at 5,000 yards
Lange M. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range closes to 4,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages CL Vicksburg at 9,000 yards
Lange M. orders Allied TF to disengage
BB Hyuga engages CL Dayton at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
CL Dayton sunk by BB Ise at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
DD Terry sunk by BB Musashi at 15,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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After this battle the Yamato and Fuso were put in an Escort TF with 5 DDs. This along with two DD mine hits tok out most of the escorts for the remaining BBs.
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 12,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Nachi
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2
DD Shigure, Shell hits 1
DD Yudachi
DD Yamakaze, Shell hits 1
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
DD Fletcher
DD Ammen
DD Anthony
DD Bell
DD Bennion
DD Bullard
DD Bush, Shell hits 1
DD Cogswell, Shell hits 1
DD Converse, Shell hits 1
DD Daly
DD Heywood Edwards, Shell hits 1
DD Erben, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 57% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Cogswell at 12,000 yards
DD Erben sunk by CA Maya at 6,000 yards
DD Fletcher engages DD Yudachi at 13,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 12,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Nachi, Shell hits 1
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2
DD Shigure, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yudachi, Shell hits 1
DD Yamakaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
Allied Ships
DD Compton
DD Drexler
DD Douglas Fox, Shell hits 1
DD Gainard, Shell hits 1
DD Heermann
DD Mullany
DD Sproston
DD Gwin
DD Walke II, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Laffey II, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD O' Brien II
DD Aaron Ward II, Shell hits 1, on fire
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 57% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 18,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 12,000 yards
Coward, Jesse G. crosses the 'T'
CA Mikuma engages DD Mullany at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Gainard at 9,000 yards
Watanabe, Seishichi orders Japanese TF to disengage
Task forces break off...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 9,000 Yards
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 3
BB Musashi, Shell hits 32, on fire
BB Ise, Shell hits 3
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 6
DD Kaya, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
Allied Ships
CA Boston, Shell hits 2
CA Pittsburgh, Shell hits 11, on fire
CA St. Paul, Shell hits 1
DD Brush
DD Hyman, Shell hits 1
DD Maddox
DD Mansfield
DD Moale
DD Samuel Moore
DD Lyman K. Swenson
DD Taussig
DD Hazelwood
CA Canberra II, Shell hits 10, heavy fires
CA Quincy II, Shell hits 23, and is sunk
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
Tanaka, Raizo crosses the 'T'
BB Hyuga engages CA Quincy II at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
BB Musashi engages CA Quincy II at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
BB Musashi engages CA Quincy II at 5,000 yards
Massive explosion on CA Quincy II
Range closes to 2,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages CA Quincy II at 2,000 yards ----------------------- !!!!
DD Kaya sunk by DD Taussig at 2,000 yards
Tanaka, Raizo orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 15,000 yards
BB Ise engages CA Quincy II at 15,000 yards
CA Quincy II sunk by BB Mutsu at 15,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 12,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Oyodo, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
CL Yahagi
CL Kiso, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kisaragi, Shell hits 1
DD Satsuki, Shell hits 1
DD Yakaze, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
BB South Dakota
BB Indiana
BB Massachusetts
BB Alabama, Shell hits 2
DD Cotten, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Irwin
DD Cassin Young
DD Little II
DD Porter II
DD Frej
DD Loke
DD Blue II
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 12,000 yards
Keene O. crosses the 'T'
BB Alabama engages CL Kiso at 12,000 yards
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 14,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Yamato, Shell hits 28, on fire, heavy damage
BB Fuso, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hinoki, on fire
DD Nara, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Keyaki, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Odake, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kaba, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 3
BB Indiana, Shell hits 2
BB Massachusetts
BB Alabama, Shell hits 16, on fire
DD Cotten, on fire
DD Irwin
DD Cassin Young
DD Little II
DD Porter II
DD Frej
DD Loke, Shell hits 1
DD Blue II
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 28,000 yards
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 18,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards
BB Alabama engages BB Yamato at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Alabama at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
BB Fuso engages BB Alabama at 2,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape -------------------------------Not sure how these damaged and slower ships got away, but ...
Task forces break off...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 14,000 Yards
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1b Jake: 3 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Yamato, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
BB Fuso, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Hinoki, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Nara, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Keyaki, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Odake, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kaba, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied Ships
CL Emerald
CL Bermuda
CL Kenya
CL Caradoc
DD Ulster
DD Ulysses
DD Undaunted
DD Undine
DD Urania
DD Whelp
DD Whirlwind
DD Wizard
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Caradoc at 14,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 14,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 16, on fire
DD Hinoki, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Keyaki, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Odake, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
DD Kaba, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Allied Ships
CL Duluth
CL Topeka
CL Oklahoma City
DD Brown
DD Cowell
DD Hoel
DD Mayo
DD Madison
DD Charles Hughes
DD Benson
DD Gleaves
DD Niblack
CL Atlanta II, Shell hits 1
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 11,000 yards
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moppo at 100,54, Range 14,000 Yards
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1b Jake: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 152, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Hinoki, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Keyaki, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
Allied Ships
CL Columbia
CL Biloxi
DD Bennett
DD Charrette
DD Chevalier
DD Conway
DD Cony
DD DeHaven
DD Radford
DD Spence
CL Valkyria, Shell hits 2
CL Mjollner, Shell hits 1
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 11,000 yards
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Pre-Invasion action off Gunzan (102,52)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
280 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
LSM(R)-188
LSM(R)-199
LCI(G)-470
LCI(G)-469
LCI(G)-468
LCI(G)-454
LCI(G)-453
LCI(G)-452
LCI(G)-451
LCI(G)-450
LCI(G)-449
LCI(G)-442
LCI(G)-441
LCI(G)-440
LCI(G)-439
LCI(G)-438
LCI(G)-437
LCI(G)-408
LCI(G)-407
LCI(G)-406
LCI(G)-405
LCI(G)-404
LCI(G)-403
LCI(G)-401
LCI(G)-398
LCI(M)-805
LCI(M)-804
LCI(M)-802
LCI(M)-801
LCI(M)-674
LCI(M)-673
LCI(M)-670
LCI(M)-669
LCI(M)-664
LCI(M)-660
LCI(M)-659
LCI(M)-658
LCI(M)-633
LCI(M)-632
LCI(M)-631
LCI(R)-648
LCI(R)-647
LCI(R)-646
LCI(R)-645
LCI(R)-644
LCI(R)-643
LCI(R)-642
LCI(R)-342
LCI(R)-341
LCI(R)-340
LCI(R)-339
LCI(R)-338
LCI(R)-337
LCI(R)-230
LCI(R)-226
LCI(R)-225
LCI(R)-224
LCI(R)-74
LCI(R)-73
LCI(R)-72
LSM(R)-198
LSM(R)-197
LSM(R)-196
LSM(R)-195
LSM(R)-194
LSM(R)-193
LSM(R)-192
LSM(R)-191
LSM(R)-190
LSM(R)-189
LSM-413
LSM-417, Shell hits 1, on fire
LST-915, Shell hits 1
LSM-415
LST-911
LST-912
Japanese ground losses:
3182 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 231 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 348 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled
Guns lost 107 (2 destroyed, 105 disabled)
Vehicles lost 15 (3 destroyed, 12 disabled) ------------------------------------------ WOW!!![X(]
LSM(R)-199 firing to suppress enemy battery at 9,000 yards
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ASW attack near Moppo at 100,55
Japanese Ships
BB Musashi, Torpedo hits 1
Allied Ships
SS Grayback
SS Grayback launches 6 torpedoes at BB Musashi
Sub escapes detection
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 1, 45 -
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The first sweeps didn't do too badly considering the Allied CAP.
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Morning Air attack on Moppo , at 100,54
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 47
Allied aircraft
Spitfire F.XIV x 47
Spitfire VIII x 115
P-47N Thunderbolt x 175
P-51D Mustang x 25
F4U-1A Corsair x 169
F4U-1D Corsair x 37
F4U-4 Corsair x 36
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 8 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 20000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Moppo , at 100,54
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 52 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 5
J2M5 Jack x 6
J7W1 Shinden x 9
Allied aircraft
Spitfire F.XIV x 46
Spitfire VIII x 93
P-47N Thunderbolt x 153
P-51D Mustang x 21
F4U-1A Corsair x 140
F4U-1D Corsair x 32
F4U-4 Corsair x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 2 destroyed
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x J7W1 Shinden sweeping at 32000 feet *
2 x A7M2 Sam sweeping at 32000 feet
3 x J2M5 Jack sweeping at 32000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Moppo , at 100,54
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 60 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 26
Ki-83 x 43
Ki-84r Frank x 202
Allied aircraft
Spitfire F.XIV x 44
Spitfire VIII x 90
P-47N Thunderbolt x 147
P-51D Mustang x 19
F4U-1A Corsair x 134
F4U-1D Corsair x 32
F4U-4 Corsair x 31
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
26 x J2M5 Jack sweeping at 32000 feet
44 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
28 x Ki-83 sweeping at 32000 feet
44 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
38 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
38 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
8 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
9 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
9 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
14 x Ki-83 sweeping at 32000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Moppo , at 100,54
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 198 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 49 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 114
Ki-84r Frank x 197
Allied aircraft
Spitfire F.XIV x 40
Spitfire VIII x 76
P-47N Thunderbolt x 141
P-51D Mustang x 17
F4U-1A Corsair x 119
F4U-1D Corsair x 28
F4U-4 Corsair x 29
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
43 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
30 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
33 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
52 x Ki-83 sweeping at 32000 feet
58 x Ki-83 sweeping at 32000 feet
8 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
36 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
39 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Moppo , at 100,54
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 196 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 48 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 77
Allied aircraft
Spitfire F.XIV x 33
Spitfire VIII x 70
P-47N Thunderbolt x 135
P-51D Mustang x 13
F4U-1A Corsair x 105
F4U-1D Corsair x 26
F4U-4 Corsair x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire F.XIV: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
5 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
22 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
9 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Moppo , at 100,54
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 191 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 21
Allied aircraft
Spitfire F.XIV x 31
Spitfire VIII x 69
P-47N Thunderbolt x 129
P-51D Mustang x 13
F4U-1A Corsair x 96
F4U-1D Corsair x 25
F4U-4 Corsair x 23
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-84r Frank sweeping at 32000 feet
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I also sent the KB in for one last hurrah, but only one TF made it, so that didn't do much either way. These were out of range for Allied strikes apparently.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Moppo at 97,54
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 36
B7A2 Grace x 28
D4Y4 Judy x 43
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 20
Corsair IV x 111
Seafire L.III x 29
F4U-1A Corsair x 170
F4U-1D Corsair x 385
F6F-5 Hellcat x 69
Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 7 destroyed
B7A2 Grace: 15 destroyed
D4Y4 Judy: 28 destroyed
D4Y4 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CVE Shah
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