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RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:42 am
by MakeeLearn
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RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:39 pm
by RangerJoe
Actually, from the Rhykyus, going to the nice open ground of northern China would also be a viable target. That would be a good area for the Cavalry to exploit. Then a linkup with the Russians when they activate would solve all supply problems for China.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:07 pm
by MakeeLearn
Invading northern China you can get a lot of territory and flank up with the Russians. But then the Japs may withdraw into southern China's rough terrain and hold some of the ports there.
Or leave Northern China open as a possible escape rout...
By taking the coastline of rough southern China, ports, maybe he will withdraw his bulk of forces into the open terrain of northern China and they can be dealt with easier than down south. However there is a good chance he will pull his forces into Indochina.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:27 pm
by Lokasenna
He's not going to China.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:33 pm
by JohnDillworth
Somewhere in there is about right. Need to make the DEI irrelevant so the economy can be killed
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:34 pm
by brian800000
Tokyo. Dan is going straight for the heart of the monster.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:59 pm
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
Somewhere in there is about right. Need to make the DEI irrelevant so the economy can be killed
It's too late for that now, the key is VP's now and not fuel and oil.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:39 pm
by Canoerebel
4/23/45
I'm enjoying reading your guesses, reasoning and analysis. Thanks for posting.
TNNBT: Death Star and the Herd move five hexes, a cumulative of 16 since departing Shikuka four days ago. Neither DS nor the adjacent herd of cadre tatterdemalions show much in the way of detection, but I feel sure Erik knows what's where. So far no enemy opposition.
SEAC: Erik's withdrwaing army has pulled away from the pursuing Allies just a bit. I've slowed my guys down, partly to get a better feel for whether Erik has a bushwhack in mind and partly to consider an alternative - diverting my guys to amphibious ops rather than continuing a land campaign.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:16 pm
by MakeeLearn
The vote results are...
Tahiti!
Mainland Japan would be Prime Time Fight Club

RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:24 pm
by paullus99
Canoe's in SPACE!!!!
[:D]
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:22 pm
by BillBrown
I really want him to land in Toyko. That would be epic. [8D][X(]
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:00 am
by RangerJoe
If he invades Iwo Jima, technically he would land in Tokyo:
Iwo Jima lies in the western Pacific at a point about 760 miles (1,220 km) south-southeast of Tokyo. The island is irregular in shape; it is about 5 miles (8 km) long and ranges from 800 yards to 2.5 miles (730 metres to 4 km) wide. It has an area of about 8 square miles (20 square km). Administratively, it is part of Tokyo metropolis.
From:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Iwo-Jima-island-Japan
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:30 am
by brian800000
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
If he invades Iwo Jima, technically he would land in Tokyo:
Iwo Jima lies in the western Pacific at a point about 760 miles (1,220 km) south-southeast of Tokyo. The island is irregular in shape; it is about 5 miles (8 km) long and ranges from 800 yards to 2.5 miles (730 metres to 4 km) wide. It has an area of about 8 square miles (20 square km). Administratively, it is part of Tokyo metropolis.
From:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Iwo-Jima-island-Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpecUpqamiI
Go to 1:20 of this clip, but imagine instead of that fleet he sees the death star, troop transports with 15 divisions, and lord knows how many bombardment fleets.[:)]
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:00 pm
by HansBolter
The danger I see in where he is potentially headed is mostly the lack of a clear line of supply.
With the PI, Marianas and Bonins still in Japanese hands there is no clear path into the battle ground for supply, fuel and reinforcements.
Every resupply/refuel/reinforcement mission will need DS escort.
He is sticking his head in a noose.
Yes, the noose may be weak and the neck strong, but.....
Will certainly prove to be entertaining.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:12 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
Somewhere in there is about right. Need to make the DEI irrelevant so the economy can be killed
The economy is unimportant at this stage of the calendar. Cutting off inflow wouldn't be bad, of course, but it should not be a primary consideration at all. If this were 12 or maybe even just 8 months prior, then maybe.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:15 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
The danger I see in where he is potentially headed is mostly the lack of a clear line of supply.
With the PI, Marianas and Bonins still in Japanese hands there is no clear path into the battle ground for supply, fuel and reinforcements.
Every resupply/refuel/reinforcement mission will need DS escort.
He is sticking his head in a noose.
Yes, the noose may be weak and the neck strong, but.....
Will certainly prove to be entertaining.
Can drop off a few hundred thousand supply on the first trip and be fine to assume a defensive posture until a resupply can occur with more hundreds of thousands. Flying CAP doesn't cost that much supply, even with hundreds of planes. Unless the target is on Japan itself, but that would be surprising to me.
I'll put my meaningless chips on the table for the Ryukyus. Amami Oshima and maybe Okinawa. Maybe some of the medium islands between Amami and Kyushu.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:06 pm
by Canoerebel
The invasion force is carrying 1.9 million supply in supply-dedicated xAKs and AKs. There's a lot more embedded with the various transport/amphibious TFs carrying both units and supply.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:37 pm
by RangerJoe
Napoleon said that the Army travels on its stomach. Which is why he had a reward for someone who could invent a way to safely preserve food. Canning was thus invented - but it used real lead [X(] for solder, at least initially. Of course, with the overfed US Army today, you could now state that the US Army travels in spite of its stomach . . .
Hey, I resembled (and still do) that last remark!
Supply and resources from the DEI/SRA is still relevant since bases that are under supplied yield fewer VPs.
RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:37 am
by Capt. Harlock
He is sticking his head in a noose.
Yes, the noose may be weak and the neck strong, but.....
Will certainly prove to be entertaining.
That's actually a good description of Grant's Vicksburg campaign. My bet would be on CR to pull it off.

RE: Notes from a Small Island
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:06 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
He is sticking his head in a noose.
Yes, the noose may be weak and the neck strong, but.....
Will certainly prove to be entertaining.
That's actually a good description of Grant's Vicksburg campaign. My bet would be on CR to pull it off.
I remember thinking CRs strategy a bit dicey when he bulldozed past the Kuriles to take the two bases on Sakhalin. How was he going to sustain his troops in such isolated bases. But then it became clear that he knew what he was doing and brought enough for a prolonged campaign and to kick open the Kuriles door when it suited him. No doubt he will be likewise prepared for whatever surrounded bases he chooses to go for next. There may be some tough clashes, but the logistics end of it will be solid.