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RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:55 pm
by Rhetor
ORIGINAL: PyleDriver
There are units that come from the eastern edge of the map also. The Soviets produce like rabbits in 41.
Now that's precisely what bothers me. If Soviet troops appear in scores at various remote points (Urals, Caucasus, in Astrakhan or elsewhere), the player would have to manually bring them up. Would it not be a waste of time? Would there be a decent reinforcment schedule/arrival screen?
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:19 pm
by PyleDriver
Once agian, most units form near population centers in the west. The Soviets have an huge rail ability, the balance act is how you delay them long enough to get your factories moved east...
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:23 pm
by PyleDriver
Oh, missed the last question. Yes theres a hot key that lets you know when and where reinforcments appear...
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:13 pm
by Endsieg
will the soviet AI attempt to cut axis rail lines whenever/whereever possible with isolated units in '41? i ask, because tedious discussons abt houserules regarding this issue always erupted in WIR pbems.
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:46 pm
by elmo3
AI work is ongoing. We'll all be working hard to make it as good as we can.
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:19 am
by KarlXII
Will there be any summary screen of total casualties on detail level ?
Will there be any "history" log of achieved goals like which dates certain victory hexes was taken ?
Right now I am playing the predecessor to this incarnation, Western Front, and the only reason to replay the game is to compare your losses, dates for achieving victories etc. Now I have to write down every summary after every turn which is tedious. It would help to have this information summarised on a specific tab somewhere.
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:10 am
by elmo3
You can view casualties for the current turn and in total. There is a victory screen that shows points for victory locations. Don't think there is any history log as you describe and I don't know if something like that will be added or not.
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:44 am
by KarlXII
Good, at least total losses is included. The rest can be done by hand.
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:32 pm
by bshirt7
Wow....I just found this website today. 2nd Front....a blast from the past!
Gary Grigsby.......GREAT!
Forgive me my question. Is there no production options for the Germans all through the war?
Nara
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:52 pm
by Endsieg
In the zoomed-in screenshots of the Moscow area, I have not seen the Nara river...perhaps i am blind, is it there??
IIRC, in last half Nov '41, Kluge (4th army) was repeatedly urged/cajoled to attack across the Nara due east/northeast direction Moscow to bring pressure on the Russian center.....but waited too long in the opinion of his peers on the flanks. A town called Naro-Fominsk also springs to mind.
Is the Nara simply too minor a river to be included on the map? Is Naro-Fominsk on the map as a dot?
RE: Nara
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:00 pm
by elmo3
I see the Nerl River that is northeast of Moscow. Maybe that is what you are remembering? There is also a small river with no name east of Moscow that might be it. Not seeing a town called Naro-Fominsk but there are a lot of towns to check.
RE: Nara
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:16 pm
by Endsieg
Elmo:
Nara River (Russian: ¬¯¬Ñ¬â¬Ñ) is a river in the Moscow Oblast and Kaluga Oblast in Russia. It is a left tributary of the Oka River. The length of the river is 158 km. The area of its basin is 2030 km©÷. The Nara River freezes up in November-December and stays under the ice until April. The cities of Naro-Fominsk and Serpukhov are located on the Nara River.
It's west of and close to Moscow. It was a main defensive line of the Sovs throughout Nov 41. Perhaps Pavel can comment on this?
RE: Nara
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:07 pm
by elmo3
OK I misunderstood your previous post that the river was east or northeast of Moscow. Anyway I don't see it on the map either. Maybe one of our map experts will be able to make the time to comment on it at some point.
RE: War in the East Q&A
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:50 pm
by ETF
ORIGINAL: jaw
ORIGINAL: Sentinel Six
Forgive me if these questions have already been asked elsewhere as I've only just discovered this thread.
1. Can a player control production, if so how long does it take to retool a factory?
2. Can a player bring forward the in service date of equipment by R&D?
3. When a unit's equipment is upgraded does it effect its experience or readiness. Can a unit train to work up its efficiency with the new weapon system.
Forget everything you knew about production from playing WAR IN RUSSIA, not only is the production system (actually I would describe it as a replacement system) completely computer controlled but there is no concept such as retooling a factory in the game. A factory can be producing one type of aircraft or AFV one month and switch to producing another type the next month with no impact on output by the switchover per se. Factories exist merely to regulate overall production.
Replacements in general, whether of new equipment or old, will impact experience.
Pity.... WIR production was a blast......
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:53 pm
by ETF
ORIGINAL: elmo3
AI work is ongoing. We'll all be working hard to make it as good as we can.
Sorry if this has been asked.....as we all know AI's are weak no matter who makes the game.
What are the MP options? Can one do LAN games were both players work on their turns and then submit them for simultaneous computations? Can more than one player input orders? ie Army group North players South etc....
Are we just limited to the old PBEM only.
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:55 pm
by ETF
ORIGINAL: bshirt7
Wow....I just found this website today. 2nd Front....a blast from the past!
Gary Grigsby.......GREAT!
Forgive me my question. Is there no production options for the Germans all through the war?
Nope..... I think that was the best feature IMHO of 2nd Front and WIR.
RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:57 am
by PyleDriver
Lee thats one of those questions you let Pavel hit...
RE: Nara
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:34 am
by Joel Billings
ORIGINAL: Endsieg
Elmo:
Nara River (Russian: ¬¯¬Ñ¬â¬Ñ) is a river in the Moscow Oblast and Kaluga Oblast in Russia. It is a left tributary of the Oka River. The length of the river is 158 km. The area of its basin is 2030 km©÷. The Nara River freezes up in November-December and stays under the ice until April. The cities of Naro-Fominsk and Serpukhov are located on the Nara River.
It's west of and close to Moscow. It was a main defensive line of the Sovs throughout Nov 41. Perhaps Pavel can comment on this?
The river is not on the map, but both those cities are on the map. I assume Pavel did not feel the river was large enough to include when he did his river review. There are so many rivers in Russia that I had instructed Pavel to try to be very selective so we didn't end up with too many rivers. As it is, we have many more rivers now than we started with before Pavel's map work.

RE: Admin pts.
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:43 am
by Joel Billings
We are only planning on a 2 player PBEM system. As an IGOUGO game, only one player moves at a time. Of course, there is nothing stopping a team from saving a turn in process and sending it between the players, although this could obviously slow the game down. They simply need to agree on the division of forces.
RE: Nara
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:42 pm
by Helpless
The river is not on the map, but both those cities are on the map. I assume Pavel did not feel the river was large enough to include when he did his river review. There are so many rivers in Russia that I had instructed Pavel to try to be very selective so we didn't end up with too many rivers. As it is, we have many more rivers now than we started with before Pavel's map work.
That's correct. Sometimes it is hard to decide which river should be on map and which should be out. Theoretically there might be a minor river almost in every single hex. [:)]
Appearance in operational report is not always a good indication. Usually commanders been referring to terrain difficulties in their reports once they met tough resistance.
In this case I'd say that some river is missing here. There is at least 3x Oka branches which go in parallel
http://download.maps.vlasenko.net/smtm1000/n-37.jpg.
So probably ignoring them here is not the best solution. Let's see if it will be possible to add Nara [:)]