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Of course ACR can nibble away some red units near Narva river, but if he really wants to threaten the big price he has to get rolling past novgorod, not vectoring useful units away from where they should make an impact. Losing another turn for destroying maybe 6 divisions in the next two turns seems like a bad tradeoff to me. Time until mud is ticking...

With the way that TD attacks, maybe thats just what he wants?

The risk of those units along the west end of the Luga being cut-off are real. They are hanging out too far.

But 1 turn? No way, on several levels.

First, there are no Panzers up there. They have to cross enemy controlled hexes just to get there.

Next, they need to move or blow away 6 units along the Luga, to free-up enough ZOCs to move fast.

Then, they need to take care of that Rifle unit on top of that Hill

THEN, if you have any MPs left after moving over a river, through 6 enemy controlled hexes, and making at least 7 attacks, you need to attack and take the Fortified Zones adjacent to Leningrad.

There is no way.

I see everyone is talking about Leningrad [:)]

I guess Sabre was not thinking about the next turn. But if my estimated e-enemy's infantry was along the Luga River or pretty close (let's say 2 hexes) then I guess he might be totally correct. I have sent the same rifle divisions to the hexes along the coast with only Fortified Regions. I simply did not think they could be attacked on next turn. And of course that could be a wrong and very dangerous assumption!

But what about Moscow? The panzers in the Valdai Hills area supposed to be the hypothetical right hook. But... yesterday night I was looking at the map and then saw... MOSCOW was relatively close! [X(] And only one army was between the panzers and my objective NUMBER ONE!

In other words, I am going to reinforce this part. If I see this threat is only a product of my imagination, I will send these forces elsewhere: Leningrad or the south.

The Center will be rather weak (it has been my "fortress" since the start of the game) but there's only enemy infantry there. Keeping lots of troops there is idiotic. I want to put them to good use where they might make a difference, where the enemy is really dangerous.

Ok, I have changed some things in Leningrad area. The weak spot along the coast has been reinforced (now there is FR + 1 Rifle Division). This also means I have pulled back most of the units near Narva River (only one rifle division stays there to sort of slow the enemy infantry down) and reinforced the hexes between the enemy and the forts along the coast [;)]

Anyway, in theory 2ndACR will be charging like a bull in the center: NW, NE or E direction? [:D] We will see.

And now the Air War [8D]

As I said I will be attacking the enemy panzers en masse. I brought Mig-3s, Yak-1s and IL-2s [:)]

As for a top ace boss, I have been lucky. The best air commander is ALREADY in charge of the Northern Air Command aka the HQ that is supposed to support the operations of Zhukov's Northern Front armies: Rokossovski, Tolbukhin and Vatutin. So I don't need to kick an incompetent out and bring a good substitute.

I will possibly be rotating the units. After each turn, I will possibly send the most depleted unit to the national reserve and bring more cannon fodder.

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus
Anyway, in theory 2ndACR will be charging like a bull in the center: NW, NE or E direction? [:D] We will see.

Actually I think that 2ndACR's best plan here is to redeploy his Northern panzer army somewhere else while there's still time to do something usefull with it.Leave the infantry to chew through that lot.

Oh, and of course I have bought flak units for this Air Command HQ [8D]

ORIGINAL: timmyab

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus
Anyway, in theory 2ndACR will be charging like a bull in the center: NW, NE or E direction? [:D] We will see.

Actually I think that 2ndACR's best plan here is to redeploy his Northern panzer army somewhere else while there's still time to do something usefull with it.Leave the infantry to chew through that lot.

We will see. 2ndACR might surprise everyone and have a cunning plan [8D] I say he will be charging like a bull [:D]

This will be interesting.

fantastic aar tullius , that little map around Leningrad you thru out as eye candy has given me a cavity.

lets see what he does....

Thanks, pipewrench [:)] This game is indeed a lot of fun.

So, right hook or Moscow? To sort of prevent a right hook I am defending in depth. Let's see what happens here [8D]

Ok, to protect Moscow in total I brought 17 divisions.

As you can see, in the Kalinin Front I have little to fear. I could even divert perhaps 3 or 4 divisions [:)]

The Western Front now is not massive at all. I think I could still divert divisions here. I have been counter-attacking many times on the last 3 turns. On this one, 2 infantry divisions (same hex) were forced to retreat. Little to fear. Panzers are the deal... But infantry alone

In the Southwest I let him do... I attacked a panzer division which was forced to retreat. I am concentrating some forces east of the screenshot (Voronezh). Depending on the situation in the north on the next turns I might be sending maybe 15 divisions here.

And more Southwest. His panzers keep moving. For all I care they could go to Vladivostok [:D] I am evacuating industry. He will trap maximum 10% or 15% of my industry here.

I have sent 5 more divisions from the Kalinin, Western and Bryansk Fronts, NE of the Valdai Hills... that right hook... buildup thing...

You might need a few more divisions for the Leningrad area.

Just kidding! [:D]

ORIGINAL: randallw

You might need a few more divisions for the Leningrad area.

Just kidding! [:D]

I think it's enough [:D] But I would be much more happy if I could send let's say 30 divisions to protect the Volkhov from a right hook thing. And 40 divisions to contain the panzers in the south [:D] And and and...