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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/11/42

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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 32,31


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3
Wellington III x 9


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Day Air attack on 18th Division, at 32,31


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 68
P-40E Warhawk x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
14 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
13 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
12 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
14 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on 56th Division, at 32,31


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 5
Wellington III x 10


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged
Wellington III: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

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Day Air attack on Kweilin , at 44,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 7
Ki-51 Sonia x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 4 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
G3M Nell x 35

Allied aircraft

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 10

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Day Air attack on Darwin , at 36,84

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
G4M1 Betty x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

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Day Air attack on 1st NS Garrison Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4

no losses


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 1st NS Garrison Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 6
G4M1 Betty x 34

no losses


Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Medan Coastal Gun Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 28

no losses


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Medan Coastal Gun Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

no losses


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 6th Dutch Naval Base Force, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 13
G3M Nell x 9

no losses


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF, near Buna at 55,90


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 7


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Waura Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage


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Ground combat at Medan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 942 troops, 55 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1488 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/12/42

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TF 238 troops unloading over beach at Lautem, 33,78


Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 56th Division, at 32,31


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 66
P-40E Warhawk x 7


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
14 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
13 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
12 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
13 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 19
Ki-51 Sonia x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 8 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 26

Allied aircraft

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
PG Warrego, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 6
Port hits 1

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Day Air attack on 1st NS Garrison Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 7

no losses


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 1st NS Garrison Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3
G4M1 Betty x 15

no losses


Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Medan Coastal Gun Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3
G4M1 Betty x 17

no losses


Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 2nd WS Garrison Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2
Ki-48 Lily x 11

no losses


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Ground combat at Medan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 942 troops, 55 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1331 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/13/42

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TF 238 troops unloading over beach at Lautem, 33,78


Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported

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TF 238 troops unloading over beach at Lautem, 33,78


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Sub attack at 49,67

Japanese Ships
AE Kashino

Allied Ships
SS Greenling

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
C5M Babs x 1
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 17 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed


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Day Air attack on 18th Division, at 32,31


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 65
P-40E Warhawk x 7


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
13 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
14 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
14 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
10 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on 18th Division, at 32,31


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
Wellington III x 20


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Wellington III: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
13 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
14 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
14 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
10 x Hurricane II attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Buna at 55,90


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
DD Ikazuchi

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Day Air attack on TF, near Buna at 55,90


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 22


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Akigumo
AP Waura Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shiratsuyu, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Ryuyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Fusemi Maru, Bomb hits 1
DD Hibiki, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF, near Buna at 55,90


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 5


no losses

Japanese Ships
PG Keijo Maru
PG Hakkaisan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 19
Ki-51 Sonia x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

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Day Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 9
Ki-27 Nate x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

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Day Air attack on Dacca , at 31,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
G3M Nell x 12
G4M1 Betty x 52

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 86

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
G3M Nell: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 40 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
Ki-21 Sally x 15
Ki-49 Helen x 17

no losses

Airbase supply hits 1

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
G3M Nell x 34

Allied aircraft

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
no losses


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported

Runway hits 3

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Day Air attack on A-II-Ld AA Battalion, at 33,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
G4M1 Betty x 28

no losses


Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on 6th Dutch Naval Base Force, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 12
G3M Nell x 6

no losses


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF at 56,87


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 2


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Shoto Maru

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Day Air attack on TF, near Buna at 55,90


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 21


no losses

Japanese Ships
AP Fusemi Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Ryuyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PC Nichi Maru #1, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Shiratsuyu, on fire
AP Waura Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hibiki, on fire, heavy damage
ML Shirakami, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
64 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Lautem

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 275 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1000 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Medan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 931 troops, 54 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1239 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles

Btw: it *only* happens when running with combat summaries turned off.

Ok, I am wrapping this one up ... more fixes in the works ... served it's purpose, time to move on to new versions of code.

Been fun. [:)]

Japan has *even* with a serious problem managed to take the entire SRA from me. Further play is just going to show how big an early loss of 800+ aircraft for nothing affects the game.

Multiple fixes coming out of this one. I'll be starting another after a bit of sleep.

Mr Frag - thanks for your insight and for sharing your game with us. Looking forward to seeing changes implemented. I doubt any game of this scope has been under such scrutiny from the public prior to release. Bravo to Matrix/2by3 for letting us 'play before paying' this way. [8D]

Yeah, thanks Frag. Your dedication is much apriciated [8D].

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Ok, I am wrapping this one up ... more fixes in the works ... served it's purpose, time to move on to new versions of code.

Been fun. [:)]

Japan has *even* with a serious problem managed to take the entire SRA from me. Further play is just going to show how big an early loss of 800+ aircraft for nothing affects the game.

Multiple fixes coming out of this one. I'll be starting another after a bit of sleep.

Great to hear [:)]

That Matrix and 2by3 are allowing open AARs and playtesting even at this late date says a lot about their dedication and openess.

WiTP will be THE Pacific wargame that will be played for many, many years to come, and there are a lot of dedicated players who have/will be playing their hearts out to make this the best game possible.

Now you get some sleep [:D]

Thanks, Mr. Frag. You played six months of WiTP in the time it takes me to play about six days of UV. Good job!

Other than the operational losses change, what other "fixes" have been requested?

Other than the operational losses change, what other "fixes" have been requested?

Can't get into it as they are still in the works.

Dear Mr. Frag,

Thank you for sharing the AAR's. Your tactical tutorials are priceless. The "stealth" CV taskforce for example. BTW what were the plans for the Five divisions in Noumea (with more on the way apparently?) A stab at Rabaul?

Yours,

Tondern

Thank you for sharing the AAR's. Your tactical tutorials are priceless. The "stealth" CV taskforce for example. BTW what were the plans for the Five divisions in Noumea (with more on the way apparently?) A stab at Rabaul?

No, that would be extremely dangerous at this stage of the game. I have no air support really this early in the game and Oz is critically short on base units (not even having enough for their own aircraft forget about all the American aircraft on the way).

Logistics completely governs what you can do in this game. Consider base units with their support and aviation support to be part of the logistics side of the game. You can only put stuff where you can support it.

I have *tons* of aircraft, but bases with 30 AV support really don't do much when you stick 300 aircraft there! [:D]

You are also critically short on engineers at this stage so building up new bases and moving forward is impossible. While you can go dump troops onto a rock, they will basically accomplish nothing without engineers and aviation.

Troops take bases so you can build a base into a useful part of your logistics trail. Without the ability to use the base, there is little point taking it at this stage. As I always maintain, the USA is not permitted a step backwards. Every other part of the Allies can, but the USA must move forward as it's network can be built and protected because of the distances involved.

Although others may disagree, I don't expect to "repeat" history. In my opinion, every turn after historical turn #1 you have a chance to either beat or be beaten by history[:D]. If I hold Mandalay (ahistorically) it doesn't mean the game is broken! It means that I made better choices and took more risks than the British Generals who did not have the advantage of foresight. In my games, I plan on beating history every time I play. If I don't or if I can't because the AI has been overly compensated, then this game would be no fun for me. I found MR Frags strategy to fortify Mandalay, at the expense of India, PI and Singapore EXACTLY the type of moves that I plan to do when I play. If this doesn't allow me to do better than history then I will not be happy with the game. All of you history types know that things could have been very different if individuals had made different choices at different times in history. I want to be able to make the "better" choices and enjoy the success that accompanies that choice.

But again thats just me[:'(]

I really have to chuckle as everytime I start winning, the developers go and fix stuff so I can't.

I have come to the conclusion that I will never be allowed to win a game! [:D]

It's just not fair I tell ya! [X(]

Seriously, the issue with the suicidal aircraft is being addressed, but be very aware that we are in a high risk period. The Air Balance way that is calculated for each base and the AI uses to determine what needs to be done is in a constant fight with other things. The AI has to get things done too. It can't just sit back and say, "hey, I'm Japan, I will loose so I am just going to stay home".

Changes made here could have unknown effects that will not show up for months.

Fixing the AI so it runs over me in Mandalay could very well over fix it in which case the AI will completely eliminate the Brits from the game! [:D]

i agree with your point of view. when someone complains because the game is not showing a historical out come, i want to laugh. the point of this game is to fight differently than history. we have hindsight to tell us where the japanese we going and what they had for equipment and experience. i want to do better. general stillwell would have done better in burma if given a free hand, with all troops available.

hell it will be HARD not to do better in Burma since unlike Stillwell....the players dont have to deal with inter-service rivalies....inter-national command rivalies and last by not LEAST, Chiang Kai-shek

[:)]

AMEN brother[&o][&o][&o][&o]

there's also no "monsoon season" so that might cause a speed up in developments. It wont be a picnic for the Allies....as long as the Japanese maintain strong forces there. Now that we have a "burma road" rule.....there's actually a reason to fight there now too.

Oh, the pain! The Horror!

New strategy: Frag hides in England!

The Anti-Frag fix notes: [X(]

"Weakened and eliminated some forts in Burma. Reduced Mandalay airfield. Delayed arrival of 6 Indian Engineer units."

You guys better hope to hell I don't win the next one or you'll be playing on Easy level against the AI to have a chance! [X(]