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Aside from requested changes for EOS mod and eratta (not much - reports are this is pretty clean)
there is significant work on aircraft. Aircraft are being given alternate loadouts. This work has revealed that Allied bombers - defined correctly - were not upgraded at the unit level in many cases - so be prepared for large increases in bomb loads. B-29 is coming in 3 flavors - with standard 500 pound GP bombs, 1000 pound AP bombs, and 400 pound cluster bombs - for example. Swordfish comes in three flavors too - with a torpedo, 3 500 pound bombs or 3 depth charges - as another case. Some Ventura will feature bombs vice torpedoes - same for B-26s. These different loadouts (and others) should make a major difference when applied to certain targets. While it is true the same unit could use different loadouts IRL, it isn't really true they would be equally effective. A non-ASW specialized group would not be very effective at ASW - even with the right weapons - so assigning a non-ASW group to ASW is crudely correct here using the wrong weapons. I am somewhat uncertain about the value of the clusters? [We may have to simulate clusters to get them right using larger numbers of small bombs. But we should test the stock devices.]

Some air units had upgrade issues - that is the slots would not retain the proper upgrade setting. And the new Japanese Uji bomb is available for the very first time. I am surprised to be able to do it - I was pretty sure we could not simulate this sort of weapon. [This is a 25kg ceramic bomb charged with anthrax, live fleas, pure oxygen, sand and a tiny bursting charge]. It is only delivered by the lightest of planes - and only some of them. [These are not good candidates to fighte their way to a target - and they lack armor - and are rated as dive bombers - so they will take maximum hits from AAA]. The bombs have a zero anti armor effect and a one general effect - so their main impact is with anti-soft effect (vs soft units) and also bomb count (vs strategic targets). It is not yet certain these weapons will be effective in any sense? But probably they will be nasty for strategic targets (which, being civil, have no gas masks or organized organic medical support with people equipped to deal with BW defenses) and for whatever kinds of units are considered targets for soft effect. They will probably be wholly ineffective vs ships or armor. This is the first opportunity to find out.



When these are done, .34 will issue - so players can see these changes - and comment. Probably Tuesday (tomorrow).

Added a fourth type of B-29: Recon.

Added a few US bombardment units with indications of loadout: this will change to GP if the unit upgrades.

USAAF 1st Bomb (AP) means using 1,000 pound AP bombs
USAAF 2nd Bomb (GP) means using 500 pound GP bombs
USAAF 3rd B0mb (CB) means using 400 pound Cluster bombs
USAAF 4th Bomb (T) means using torpedo

I was able to make the cluster bombs work. I don't think the stock or CHS cluster bombs work. IF they work, they do not work with nearly the number of hits they should. [Each cluster is multiple bombs - but the hit rates are not going up] Cluster devices were classified as type 4 (blank) and probably are hooks for code not written yet. I defined them as smart bombs with low hit probabilities. This works pretty well. There are two Allied clusters - nicely balancing the two Axis smart weapons we have added. There is also OKHA - but it is code constrained. [Only a few planes will ever fly with it].

I found some US formations with the wrong HQ. Units that appear in Australia in historical scenarios (other than PPO) appear at Salt Lake City a month before in PPO and EOS - assigned to US Western Command.

This mod includes a correction to Aussie AMCs (which converted cargo capacity to aircraft capacity - 1000!)
and other errors. It adds some redefined cluster bombs and puts them on some B-29s from July 1944 (to be used in firebombing and other raids on soft targets). It adds the Uji bomb - wholly untested - on some Ki-36 observation planes (there are 3 different weapons loads for the Ki-36: tactical, anti-ship and biological; in addition players may regard those in recon units as wholly devoted to recon missions without bombs - which is how several Allied recon planes work - they just lose their bombs).

The biggest change is with respect to air unit loadings. Thus as Kate assigned to a land based ASW air unit does not carry torpedoes, but does carry depth charges. Same for a Swordfish assigned to an ASW oriented CVE. [RN has different flavors of CVEs - some even pretend to be CVs] One IL-4 unit carries torpedoes. Some B-26As do not carry torpedoes. Stuff like that.

Level 5 scenarios at x.34 level uploaded.


Error checking is being run on x.34.

We will fold this in - along with completing any requested changes.

For example - I created Force Z out of the Repulse TF - but only by adding Prince of Wales.
I think there are DDs also present - and as I have a book "The Sinking of Force Z" I will look them
up and, if appropriate, add them. What Force Z does depends on what the Allied Player tells it to
do - just a with any other TF.

If there are any other issues - particularly errors of fact or in data - they should be reported now.

I'm using RHSEOS 6.34,
Prince of Wales is not showing up, it has a Sunk date of 17994
CVL Langley is set to ship class 244 Bangor, should be 243 Independence
And the Float planes from slots 2043 to 2060 and 2095 to 2125 are upgrading to the wrong planes

I'm going off memory on this so.....
I believe the A-26 Invader had eight forward guns in the nose (and maybe six in the wings) only a few had the six-gun configuration. Four aircraft were sent early to the SW Pacific to be evaluated and one of the reasons General Kenney disliked them was because of the lack of forward firepower. The rest were sent with the eight-gun upgrade.

Thanks - this is what x.34 is for - to find what eratta remains. These matters should be addressed in x.35
probably Friday. Maybe Thursday.

ORIGINAL: drw61

I'm using RHSEOS 6.34,
Prince of Wales is not showing up, it has a Sunk date of 17994

REPLY: In 5 of 6 scenarios - fixed

CVL Langley is wrong

REPLY: Maybe - yes you are right. Fixed.

And the Float planes from slots 2043 to 2060 and 2095 to 2125 are upgrading to the wrong planes


Reply: In some scenarios. Fixed

I'm going off memory on this so.....
I believe the A-26 Invader had eight forward guns in the nose (and maybe six in the wings) only a few had the six-gun configuration. Four aircraft were sent early to the SW Pacific to be evaluated and one of the reasons General Kenney disliked them was because of the lack of forward firepower. The rest were sent with the eight-gun upgrade.

Kinney didn't like it at all and wanted to keep the A-20. He lost. However, I upgraded the nose to 8 guns. It was not first, but it was the main version.

RHS x.35 is almost ready to upload. Should upload Saturday.

This is a major rework of planes and air units - particularly Allied planes and air units -
adding loadouts and flags so players know what is loaded.

It reworks New Zealand land units to RHS standards.

It reworks blimps - correcting radar.

Some eratta folded in.

But mainly it is about airplanes and loads. Many smaller Allied planes have increased normal bombloads to comply with newer RHS standards rather than older ones inherited.

I noticed that - with PDU = ON - the MiG-3 does not appear as an upgrade option for Soviet fighter units. I'm in EOS 6.32.

I can't see any problem in the scenario files, but I couldn't see where the nationality of the plane is defined so I couldn't check that.

You will have to start the game up to see this one (just looking at the scenario files might not show it).

EDIT: I just checked EOS 6.34 and it's the same way - MiG-3 is not available for upgrades.

6.35 EOS and CVO uploaded.

Remainder in Plus 4 hours.

This is the semi-final form: will attempt to do Level 7 by Tuesday. Except for Madagascar related things,
no units will be added. If Level 7 does not work, we will proceed with Level 6.


Report eratta as usual:

Thank you.

Level 5 and 6 releases x.36 is uploading.

This is identical to x.35 except for some changes to Commonwealth aircraft and air units. We have updated the Ventura to the new (non-torpedo) standard, and modified some loadouts.

I found a way to simulate the tank busting Hurricane IVs INCLUDING the 40mm gun - in spite of not having such a device! Since it will never show as such - we can use a virtually identical US 37mm gun in its place. The tank buster also has 8 rockets - and 2 x 250 lb bombs. I also worked on the Lancaster. It is a remarkable machine - with a 22000 lift technically the biggest in the game (just slightly larger than the B-29 or the Me-264 of EOS, it will also require a Level 7 airfield for efficient operations). I determined its normal bomb load was 14,000 pounds, and fitted it with a unique combination of 2 x 4000 GP, 2 x 2000 GP and 2 x 1000 GP bombs.

The Hurricane IIb is forced to operate without drop tanks - which were not available in theater until 1943 - by which time it should substantially be replaced by the IIc. This - and the substitution of 20mm for .30 cal guns - is the only meaningful difference between the planes.

"comments on air loadouts requested "

Sid



Very much like the new load outs, and several new squadrons detected..
Disappointed you were not able to have a seperate slot for the Vickers Vincent, which would have allowed its' greatest true difference from its' sister (Vildebeeste), the range difference..
In use by NZ, surrounded by water, the range is a real asset when needing to stretch its' legs...........
Minor detail when looking at all else..
Quick observation after 6 hours of looking/playing the latest upgrade..
Thank you..

m10bob,

If you have "PDU = ON", have a look at the Soviet fighters. See if any of them have the MiG-3 as an option for upgrading. They are provided at a rate of 20 per month but for some reason I can't get at them (even with PDU on).

I can't either. On it.

Got it.

Will issue x.37 update to correct this, correct the mg count in CW units,
and correct the date of appearance/location/strength of appearance of IA
19th Division.

Will wait a few hours in case any other issues arise to be folded in.

This was strange - I wish the algorithm for upgrading was understood. But I
found a way to make it happen.

At the beginning of the war, that Fiji unit with Catalina' should start with Singapore aircraft instead.:

"no. 5 flying boat squadron
The first No. 5 Squadron was formed in Fiji in November 1941 and disbanded in November 1942.

Aircraft: Singapores.

Commanding Officers Squadron Leader E. M. Lewis November–December 1941
Flight Lieutenant W. J. Craig December 1941–February 1942
Flight Lieutenant R. H. Hickson February–March 1942
Squadron Leader R. J. R. H. Makgill April–November 1942

A new No. 5 Squadron was formed in Fiji in July 1944. It was reformed after the war and is at present stationed in Fiji, operating in the maritime role.

Aircraft: Catalinas

[font="times new roman"]Using EOS 5.36[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The patrol planes using depth charges show no weapons under the Default Load on the Aircraft Data menu.  I have only played a few turns so far and did not see any depth charges used. [/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The Oyoda (slot 78) has a sunk date of 57512 and is not active in the scenario.[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The following may be how you intended, just checking[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The F4U (slot 127) upgrades to the F4U-NF (slot 095), should it upgrade to the F4U1D (slot 094)?[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The following ships downgrade their cargo capacity, is this intentional because of weapons filling up the capacity? [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Liberty Ship (slot 389) start with a cargo capacity 7000; Liberty Ship (slot 1486) capacity of 2000.  [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Luckenbach Freighter (slot1534) start capacity of 6000; Luckenbach Freighter (slot1606) capacity of 3000[/font]
[font="times new roman"]President Lanes (slot1535) starting capacity at 4350; President Lanes (slot1613) capacity of  3000[/font]

ORIGINAL: m10bob

At the beginning of the war, that Fiji unit with Catalina' should start with Singapore aircraft instead.:

"no. 5 flying boat squadron
The first No. 5 Squadron was formed in Fiji in November 1941 and disbanded in November 1942.

Aircraft: Singapores.

Commanding Officers Squadron Leader E. M. Lewis November–December 1941
Flight Lieutenant W. J. Craig December 1941–February 1942
Flight Lieutenant R. H. Hickson February–March 1942
Squadron Leader R. J. R. H. Makgill April–November 1942

A new No. 5 Squadron was formed in Fiji in July 1944. It was reformed after the war and is at present stationed in Fiji, operating in the maritime role.

Aircraft: Catalinas

Well - OK. But since there is no Singapore in the plane set - and since it is a wholly obsolete aircraft -
this is not directly soluable. It would appear that SOME sort of recon is appropriate at Fiji during that first critical year.

OK - lets use the Vincent. It is already in RNZAF service, is obsolete, and is an armed recon plane. It has similar range, and the only big problem is - it is not a flying boat! It can upgrade to a Cat. A player who wants to may disband it in Dec 1942, but I see no need to do recommend a house rule.

The Dutch Martin Bombers (139?) in EOS have been given an upgrade option to the US B-25 - but it is the rare H model instead of the numerous C/D model. Should be the C/D model as it is highly plausible for the US to equip an ally with those, unlikely the US would give up the rare H model.

ORIGINAL: drw61

[font="times new roman"]Using EOS 5.36[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The patrol planes using depth charges show no weapons under the Default Load on the Aircraft Data menu.  I have only played a few turns so far and did not see any depth charges used. [/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]

REPLY: Regretfully you will never see an alternate loadout. Only if you score a hit with the weapon will you know it was used. This is why the loadout is specified in the unit name. Another way to say this is that a default loadout is always listed, regardless of the real loadout.

[font="times new roman"]The Oyoda (slot 78) has a sunk date of 57512 and is not active in the scenario.[/font]

I just noticed that while modifying the class for EOS. I fixed it in those scenarios where it was wrong. This is a function of the old editor when copying - a sunk date is ALWAYS messed up UNLESS it is 0. Did I ever say how much I hate that editor? I got the new one to work today - but its load screen is messed up - otherwise seems fine.

[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The following may be how you intended, just checking[/font]
[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The F4U (slot 127) upgrades to the F4U-NF (slot 095), should it upgrade to the F4U1D (slot 094)?[/font]

Today it was upgrading to the F-5 recon slot! This is another "feature" of the WITP editor - both version 6 and version 1 - it changes upgrade slots. Did I ever say how much I hate that editor? Fixed it with Editor X.

[font="times new roman"] [/font]
[font="times new roman"]The following ships downgrade their cargo capacity, is this intentional because of weapons filling up the capacity? [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Liberty Ship (slot 389) start with a cargo capacity 7000; Liberty Ship (slot 1486) capacity of 2000.  [/font]

REPLY: NOte that is an error.

[font="times new roman"]Luckenbach Freighter (slot1534) start capacity of 6000; Luckenbach Freighter (slot1606) capacity of 3000[/font]
[font="times new roman"]President Lanes (slot1535) starting capacity at 4350; President Lanes (slot1613) capacity of  3000[/font]

Also errors, these are my fault: I should have done the upgrade slot when I changed the main slot.