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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

I don't think we modeled the German "used" ones, you get what you capture, and may use it for a little bit (you are not going to field 100's of Russian Tanks)

you are much more likely, to put guns to work for you, then AFVs

Didn't the early Marders use capture Russian 76.2mm AT guns mounted on the PZIII or PZII chassie?? The Germans captured lot of AT guns but eventually they were up gunned to the 75mm L43.

The Marder, using original or rechambered (so it could fire German 75mm ammo) 76.2 mm guns, is one of the few German vehicles where the number behind the name doesn't necessarily indicate the chassis it was based on/is misleading.

The majority of the Marders were build on chassis of captured tracked vehicles of any kind and obsolete tanks like early Panzer II models and Panzer 38(t)'s, although in the case of the latter newer variants were also used.

Basically, if a captured or early WWII German vehicle/tank had tracks, there's a good chance a Marder was made out of it.

I may of misspoke a little, I do see that some of the Fin tanks are remodeled Russian tanks (but think those are what they had on hand, and not "newly" captured models)

Agree CP

in fact, I like that Panzerjager, early ones were really ugly, but the front mounted one, looked decent, the back mounted one, may of been the better of the main ones

(in case you don't follow what I am saying, the early ones, had just the gun and shield mounted on the top of the chassis, then they "build" the next model, with a crew housing towards the front of the chassis, later models, they moved the crew housing towards the rear)

I still prefer the purpose built AT vehicles over the Marders, although the Marders were a good case of efficiently using up a supply of obsolete vehicles, albeit in a way that created a spare parts nightmare.

When it comes to improvisations, I like the halftracks with support weapons more than the Marder, although the first Sdkfz 251/10 with the full PaK 36 gunshield was a clear case of "what the hell were they thinking?"

well, if you going to be able to pick , yea, I agree

just saying for the class, I liked the front housed Marder over the rear housed (still wouldn't want to be in one, if the other guy was firing !)

Snow came, and the Russian is in trouble

hmmmm, Snow is my friend

the prize is with in reach

Hard Sarge, I just noticed some units on the Eastern shore of the Caspian Sea were unsupplied in an earlier screenshot (the first post on this page), any idea what's going on there?

A mid level screenshot of the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea area would be appreciated too, as we've basically seen only the Western half of the map in any detail in screenshots.

ORIGINAL: ComradeP

Hard Sarge, I just noticed some units on the Eastern shore of the Caspian Sea were unsupplied in an earlier screenshot (the first post on this page), any idea what's going on there?

ahhh, bug, reported, couple of Air HQs showed up, where there is no supply line, and not suppost to be any troops


A mid level screenshot of the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea area would be appreciated too, as we've basically seen only the Western half of the map in any detail in screenshots.

roger, will look when I get back in, not going to be too pretty

okay, think I have gotten what I was testing for out of the way, so will stop posting about that game (new build should be coming up soon)

and for the map

the upper North

the middle

the almost south

Thanks for the screenshots.

The upper north is a nice place for an artillery division.

and the real south

Where are the Russkies? You kill'm all???

naw

there still some 3 Million of them left

somewhere

(most of those map screens are behind the front lines, so really, shouldn't be many troops back there, other then in training, or you would hope so !)

Does the report keep a final tally on total casualties for the entire battle?

let my turn end and I will get some shots

okay first off, remember this is my test game, I am testing the auto victory condictions

so don't read into the losses, just read the screens

turn and over losses

units killed screen, you see to the left, you have each turn listed