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17 June final AGN

Having done the job 3rd Panzer begins to prepare to shift. The rest of the Finnish and 16th army troops also redeploy back to the fort lines. The Finns got some much needed wins and most of them will now remain behind the "morale death" line. The reserve fort lines are coming along nicely.

4th Panzer hits back into the teeth of his offensive.

Soviet tank Corps take it in the chin:

6/24/1943 Soviet turn losses

Out of 16 attacks I had 2 holds but the casualty ratios are still favorable. I noticed this turn he has stopped stacking so many corps along the line. Perhaps this is to cut back his attrition.

His attacks are huge with multiple stacks of corps. My defensive belts are absorbing the pressure for now.

The ongoing airbase raid cheese continues. This turn he lost over 2000 aircraft to my 200. My only saving grace is my fighter exp which is dropping him in droves but slowly being attritioned away.

Fighter and Fighter bomber squadrons. 854 kills is the highest unit!

1st Panzer army launches a series of counter attacks into the teeth of the Soviet onslaught:

III Panzer corps hits next:

4th Panzer joins in. Notice the high Soviet ground support losses.

2nd Panzer launches several attacks as well.

Here is an overview of the counter attacks. He is attacking along a broad front and the Panzer strikes are aimed at where he leaves weak spots. He cant really leave 3 corps stacks everywhere so the mobility of the Panzers will keep him guessing. In most cases a very weak LW regiment occupies the victory hex. In no cases does he retain a hex where he has a ZOC only.

Panzer attack air losses. Huge ratios in Axis favor with GS turned off.

Final ground losses after attacks. Maintaining 4-1 more or less. More importantly hitting him where he is weak. 3rd Panzer army except for the withdrawing SS is back in reserve.

Its gonna be a long summer!

Your morale and troop totals are key.

2.5 million is breaking point.

From what I am seeing seems like Russians are over powered come late 43 and breaking German army is still way to easy, 30 turns only doing 25ish attacks per turn.

1 tactic that can be used at some pt is retreating 25 to 30 hexes. The supply chain for Russians will be to long and will give your forses a break.

If your going to try and hold river line during summer 44 you got you work cut out for you. How fast is your OOB going down and is his stable, increasing or dropping?

Tracking the OOB is key, is it worth counter attacking?

Game realy seems to be missing the mark historically at this point. Russian losses during 43 were 1.5 to 2.5 million per quarter.

I think thats why the play balance goes to sht late 43, russian losses are clearly not close to historical when attacking.

The game engine is way way off and needs a major over haul.

Russian infantry is about 200% over rated.

Historical losses on Eastern front.

——————German——————-Russian————Ratio

1942
1st—————280,000——————1,686,000———-6 to 1
2nd—————220,000——————1,395,000———-6.3 to 1
3rd—————383,000——————2,371,000———-6 to 1
4th—————177,000——————1,281,000———-7.2 to 1
1943
1st—————498,000——————1,908,000———3.8 to 1
2nd—————110,000——————444,000———-4 to 1
3rd—————533,000——————2,633,000———-5 to 1
4th—————381,000——————1,939,000———-5 to 1
1944
1st—————423,000——————1,859,000———-4.4 to 1
2nd—————352,000——————1,021,000———-3 to 1
3rd—————879,000——————1,771,000———-2 to 1
4th—————297,000——————1,086,000———-3.6 to 1

Its more important to track total loses over a 10 turn trend.

June 10th 1943 losses were

German 2,630,000
Russian 8,140,000

June 24th

German 2,660,000
Russian 8,256,000

German 30,000
Russian 116,000

Ration 3.8 to 1

Hows your OOB doing?

I think where the wheels come off the WitE engine is late 43 to end of war. The ratio in my game 3rd quarter of 43 are 2 to 1 tops nothing close to historical, (4/5) to 1 until 2nd quarter of 44.

Pelton

So far the OOB is stable and I have been maintaining a 4-1 loss ratio on the ground and 10-1 loss ratio in the air.

This last turn I just got back he made some massive attacks and took Kharkov out with level 4 forts in one whack. Ratios dipped a bit. My oob will be taking a hit soon as the SS starts to withdraw.

I have 3 months of pounding to go through before mud. I am fairly confident I will keep him to the east of the river line but there really is no stopping his massed guards corps.

The bright spot continues to be the air war. He only bombed airbases 21 times so much of the losses he incurred were from GS.

Battles. A few holds. I am hoping his assault forces wear down at some point but who knows [:D]

Sumy also fell to one attack.

Kharkov. Real surprise here I thought it would hold a few turns with level 4 forts in a big city. He did hit it with 300,000 men however!