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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:22 am
by Pipewrench
man oh man if you can somehow direct his advance towards stalino and preserve or even extend that flank he faces in the winter it could lead to an interesting blizzard.
Unfortunatly he has to attack Smolensk now and straighten his lines.
Remember only the finest caviar for the resting cavalry and all the vodka for the happy airborne.
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:52 am
by 76mm
You are in great shape. He is so screwed during the blizzard. As soon as the mud hits, I would start gathering your cav divisions, so you can form plenty of cav corps prior to the blizzard.
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:35 am
by randallw
The blizzard pretty much begins in December, so it's doubtful that all the cav corps will be formed and ready to go.
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:16 am
by 76mm
ORIGINAL: randallw
The blizzard pretty much begins in December, so it's doubtful that all the cav corps will be formed and ready to go.
I meant to gather up his existing cav divisions so that he can form some cav corps right away--my cav divisions were scattered hither and yon all over the front, so it has been difficult to gather them up. Also, he should form new cav divisions as soon as their cost drops from 40 to 20, they should be ready to go about the time that some holes have been punched during the blizzard.
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:54 am
by TulliusDetritus
[center]Turn 12[/center]
[center]4 september 1941[/center]
Looks like I was correct, 2ndACR is charging like a bull in the center (in Leningrad area) [:D] And I am starting to think that there will not be right hook. Not a push towards Moscow either from the Valdai Hills.
Maybe my other game has saved me after all... On that game I attacked the right flank of the advancing AGN and the operation ended with the destruction of many AGN divisions (including the 100% of the panzers and motorized divisions). SO maybe all 2ndACR is doing (unlike my first opponent) is simply protecting that right flank... with panzers. And that's of course excellent news. Panzers don't move (static defence) = no threat at all. Infantry should do that job methinks. And of course 2ndACR read my other AAR.
In the center, I remember I said my big objective was holding Smolensk until turn 13. The truth is I could hold the city maybe 4 or 5 more turns. And Vitebsk hasn't been captured yet [&:]
He is concentrating his forces in the north and south, avoiding the center. But as pipewrench said, his front line will be more long if he keeps advancing in the south and avoids this place.
And when I look at the south of the map, I see an empty place. I mean, his panzers are in the middle of nowhere. They are not even destroying the Red Army here (tank country).
And I suspect that my big push during the blizzard will be in this place. In other words, my main attack will possibly be in the place where I was very weak during the Blitzkrieg [;)]
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:00 pm
by TulliusDetritus
ORIGINAL: pipewrench
man oh man if you can somehow direct his advance towards stalino and preserve or even extend that flank he faces in the winter it could lead to an interesting blizzard.
I don't know how I could be doing that [:)] I guess weakening the southern part of this front and strenghtening the northern part [:)]
As for the cavalry, yes, I guess I will be forming corps.
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:03 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Ok, the reorganization in Leningrad area is almost 100% done [8D] Behind the 3 armies defending the city (Leningrad HQ) I have assigned the units to the Stavka armies 52 and 49: they have RR brigades.
The thing is the enemy infantry isn't close to the AGN panzers yet. Maybe they will try a small encirclement: towards the NW or Novgorod. In fact he's got infantry divisions fighting around Lake Ilmen. The "bait" has worked then, in theory: I want them to fight there, not along the Luga river.
I have launched air attacks against the panzers but the results are truly pathetic [:D]

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:19 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Around Lake Ilmen his AGN infantry is clearing the area. Good! [8D] They will need another turn so please, go ahead!
He has allowed me to cut his panzer spearhead off. As I said above, maybe all he wants is protecting his right flank (with panzers). Amusing [:)]

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:24 pm
by TulliusDetritus
I'm a moron! [:D] I should pay more attention! I can cut most of his AGC Northern Panzer Army armored hordes off!
Which has been done! [8D]

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:50 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Hmm, I think I could do a MASSIVE infiltration through the terrain I still control south of Lake Ilmen... but I guess I should not be taking a risk now... For sure I would scare him [:)]
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:26 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Ok, there's going to be a massive infiltration. The point is these units are here to stop the Panzers from a) doing a right hook and b) advance towards Moscow.
Even if this operation does not work, that should make him lose minimum 2 turns which might be vital... he could resume operations let's say on turn 15 (and mud hits three turns later). I might lose 5 or 6 divisions but that might save Leningrad.
And of course I am supposed to have some fun too! In other words, I want to terrorise him! Let's see if that can be done!

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:50 pm
by mmarquo
TD -
You have 3 more months before you can form cavalry corps - use the divisions with the high mps to help the infiltrations for now. I like your aggressive spirit - but you can't be attacking and causing Axis units to retreat so early because the game is broken.... so I've heard.... [:-]
Marquo
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:56 pm
by TulliusDetritus
ORIGINAL: Marquo
but you can't be attacking and causing Axis units to retreat so early because the game is broken.... so I've heard.... [:-]
Eh???!!! [&:] Where have they said the Soviets can't attack? In fact I want to
cut off + ISOLATE.
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:56 pm
by Pipewrench
ORIGINAL: Marquo
TD -
but you can't be attacking and causing Axis units to retreat so early because the game is broken.... so I've heard.... [:-]
Marquo
shhhhh!![:-][:-]
[:-]
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:32 pm
by TulliusDetritus
In the Kalinin Front he keeps advancing at snail's pace. One successful counter-atack here.
Marquo, could you please say where they said that Soviets cannot attack and that the game is broken? [&:]

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:35 pm
by TulliusDetritus
In the Western Front more snail's pace thing [:)] Vitebsk should fall pretty soon (perhaps maximum 2 turns). But Smolensk... I could hold the city until mud season. And then...

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:43 pm
by TulliusDetritus
In the northern part of the Southwest Front, the 4 Panzer Division wanted to get some... again [:D]

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:50 pm
by mmarquo
"Marquo, could you please say where they said that Soviets cannot attack and that the game is broken? [&:] "
TD -
This is the banter uttered by pundits who like to decry the game as broken everytime things do not go their way on the battlefield; sorry to have confused you - you are doing great! [:)]
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:59 pm
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: Marquo
"Marquo, could you please say where they said that Soviets cannot attack and that the game is broken? [&:] "
TD -
This is the banter uttered by pundits who like to decry the game as broken everytime things do not go their way on the battlefield; sorry to have confused you - you are doing great! [:)]
TD, don't you remember the "Utter Madness!!!"
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:11 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Aaaaah ok [:D]
That was a sarcastic comment, I see. Sorry, I didn't get it [:)]