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As can be seen, the USSR defences are only really 2 hexes deep as the units behind that are in the open. I think there is a possibility to cause some damage, but more should be revealed with Brads reply. Let us just wait and see what happens.


Terje

Turn 76

Overall
The USSR starts to fall back, and as a result the pockets formed are quite small, but nevertheless I'll take it and be happy about it [:)] Lvl 9 frost and MUD in the Moscow Zone (I would rate the weather outside my house as lvl 5 frost, and trust me, there is NO mud!! Oh, and the weather here is influenced by SIBERIAN winds, so the same cold front that effects Russia...) slows down the ammount of attacks we can make, so we pray for a proper winter to set in soon (well in the game, NOT here [:D]).
33 attacks resulted in 6 helds and 27 retreats and a few small pockets.
I am somewhat concerned about the southern flank of PanzerArmyRed at the moment, so I might have to think up something about that soon.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
0.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
15.

Losses
USSR : 88.000 troops, 1.111 guns, 88 AFVs, 204 AC.
Axis : 33.000 troops, 244 guns, 95 AFVs, 50 AC.

USSR units lost
None

Partisans hunted down
8.

German units disbanded
3 LW Field Divisions

German pools
Manpower : 20.739
Vehicles : 213.679
Armaments : 70.736
Hiwi : 31.763

it seem to me that as Pelton you don't want to waste units in garison

Kesselring will be unhappy that his guys aren't even getting a chance to prove themselves. [:'(]

ORIGINAL: randallw

Kesselring will be unhappy that his guys aren't even getting a chance to prove themselves. [:'(]

Kesselring was back in the Mediterranean theatre by now so it will be Herr Goering who will be whingeing.

ORIGINAL: cpt flam

it seem to me that as Pelton you don't want to waste units in garison

Oh, I have Garrisons in the occupied cities, ofc they do not have time to stay there as they are running to and from chasing partisans [:@]

Terje

ORIGINAL: randallw

Kesselring will be unhappy that his guys aren't even getting a chance to prove themselves. [:'(]

Had they done their job properly, I would be happy to let them stay on the line, but since they are utterly useless, they get disbanded [:D]


Terje

ORIGINAL: sillyflower

Kesselring was back in the Mediterranean theatre by now so it will be Herr Goering who will be whingeing.

THAT I can live with [:D]


Terje

So are the cities of Kursk,Kharkov,Orel and Belgorod objectives? Take them and it will dent his manpower. The major losses you inflicted on him in the marshes still have him behind. Now you have launched major offensives in the center,north and south all n 6 months. This new mobile and offensive behavior from you must be confusing to your opponent. Keep kicking him where he ain't. [:D]

ORIGINAL: Tophat1812

So are the cities of Kursk,Kharkov,Orel and Belgorod objectives? Take them and it will dent his manpower. The major losses you inflicted on him in the marshes still have him behind. Now you have launched major offensives in the center,north and south all n 6 months. This new mobile and offensive behavior from you must be confusing to your opponent. Keep kicking him where he ain't. [:D]

Seems that is what I must do. I need to teach my generals to fight like Geronimo. Hit and Run will have to be the new style.


Terje

Turn 77

Overall
BAH! Ok, the pockets held and we bagged some USSR units, still BAH. At times I really completely hate this game with an intensity far above my dislike of "Lady" Gaga and Just A Beaver. And I REALLY dislike those "artists"...
When a 4:1 pre battle CV is reduced to a 1:2 result, AND I bring 4 divisions against 2 USSR divisions AND I outnumber the enemy 3:1 in men, you know the game is out to mess things up for you. Oh, did I forget to mention that it was a deliberate attack. And by "a" I ment several?!
Nah, next turn I will pull my panzers back, redeploy, hit another sectioon of the front, make a small pocket or two, eliminate it and withdraw again. As of now there is no chance to launch a major offensive anywhere. BAH!
66 attacks resulted in 19 helds (!!!), 1 scouted, 36 retreats and 10 surrenders.
The only good thing this round was the effort of my minors, they succeeded with all their attacks.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
15.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
16 of which 9 will march free.

Losses
USSR : 191.000 troops, 2.744 guns, 203 AFVs, 163 AC.
Axis : 47.000 troops, 461 guns, 125 AFVs, 80 AC.

USSR units lost
8 rifle divisions, 3 rifle brigades, 1 airborne brigade, 3 tank brigades and 1 artillery regiment RVGK

Partisans hunted down
5, one left on the map.

German pools
Manpower : 1.326
Vehicles : 210.044
Armaments : 73.786
Hiwi : 24.721

Turn 78

Overall
I decided to keep pushing. The reason is that there are a few manpower centres to take out close by. Granted, the USSR manpower multiplier will drop in -43, but that actually means they are that more important to take out. Also, killing off USSR units is a nice bonus [:)].
29 attacks resulted in 3 helds, 29 retreats, 4 routs, 1 shatter and 2 surrenders.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
7.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
6.

Losses
USSR : 187.000 troops, 2.913 guns, 145 AFVs, 374 AC.
Axis : 49.000 troops, 555 guns, 109 AFVs, 74 AC.

USSR units lost
7 rifle divisions, 1 artillery regiment RVGK, 1 PVO AA regiment.

German units disbanded
1 LW Field division.

Partisans hunted down
5.

German pools
Manpower : 7.155
Vehicles : 207.405
Armaments : 64.567
Hiwi : 20.815

Turn 79

Overall
Yup, the game hates me again. Oh well hopefulyl next turn is better. We do clear away some USSR units from the frontlines, and should take the objectives set last turn, however January is fast approaching, and with it, the cheap USSR corps construction. That is gonna be fun...
50 attacks resulted in 11 helds, 31 retreats, 6 routs and 3 surrenders. No new pockets were formed however, and I am running out of tanks (save Tigers ofc). Need to take the objectives, pull back the panzers and dig in and wait for one of two to happen first;
1. A USSR offensive
2. Panzers back to atleast 85% TOE so we can form some more pockets.
The infantry is all shot to pieces (some 2CV units on the map now), and I do not see the situation becoming better. Guess I will have to replace worn out divisions with the handful of new divisions appearing and disband the worn out ones.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
6.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
0.

Losses
USSR : 164.000 troops, 2.356 guns, 307 AFVs, 329 AC.
Axis : 56.000 troops, 701 guns, 114 AFVs, 49 AC.

USSR units lost
5 rifle divisions, 1 rifle brigade.

German units disbanded
1 LW Field division.

Partisans hunted down
3.

German pools
Manpower : 8.445
Vehicles : 201.924
Armaments : 44.419
Hiwi : 12.939

The ratio in losses of the recent fighting are basically neutral to either/both sides.

ORIGINAL: randallw

The ratio in losses of the recent fighting are basically neutral to either/both sides.

Save in terms of tanks unfortunately which is heavilly listed towards the USSR. But it is not the losses, it is the game mechanics that gets to me. 64.000 German soldiers attacks from 3 sides of the hex against 8.000 USSR troops and the USSR wins!? Oh, well, hopefully the turn I am about to do will work out better and lift my spirit again..

Terje

Turn 80

Overall
A better turn, and in the end we surround two cities and 12 units, including 2 of the "expensive" rifle corps. Furthermore a minor oppertunity seems to be present if we can make the most of our panzers next turn. After that however, the armaments situation dictates a defensive stance again. 49 attacks resulted in 9 helds and 40 retreats this turn.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
0.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
12.

Losses
USSR : 126.000 troops, 2.028 guns, 204 AFVs, 316 AC.
Axis : 55.000 troops, 598 guns, 130 AFVs, 45 AC.

Total losses
USSR : 8.690.000 troops, 150.955 guns, 24.496 AFVs, 21.407 AC.
Axis : 2.543.000 troops, 29.265 guns, 6.649 AFVs, 5.185 AC.

Losses ratio
Troops : 1 : 3.42
Guns : 1 : 5.14
AFVs : 1 : 3.68
AC : 1 : 4.13

USSR units lost
None

German units disbanded
1 LW Field division.

Partisans hunted down
3.

German pools
Manpower : 7.742
Vehicles : 196.707
Armaments : 13.819
Hiwi : 3.908
I simply MUST stop the offensive actions soon as my armaments are melting away again...

fine, but unfortunately your spearheads can't really support each other - the thing is, after catching infantry corps in the first round, one will usually hunting for tanks and cav corps in the next...