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Another possibility for the old CL/ML would to make them more Fast Transports and keep enough weapons for defense. Outfit with DP guns and double to triple their troop capacity. No TT and limited small AA.

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Another possibility for the old CL/ML would to make them more Fast Transports and keep enough weapons for defense. Outfit with DP guns and double to triple their troop capacity. No TT and limited small AA.

This is a very interesting scenario too.

Could turn them into the Chitose Class that way. As is, presently, the Kuma's carry up to 400 troops and the Tenryu have 300. Put the four together and your carrying 1,400 men on a single trip. Pretty useful if you ask me.

I think we have gotten the shipping straitened out with BTS.

Changes:
1. Deleted the 20+ Matsu Second-Class DDs in favor of 7 late-war Yugumo, 7 Moon-Class DD (Akitsuki), and 4 Shimakaze.

2. Streamlined the ASW warship construction by deleting all Matsuwa, Mikura, Hiburi, and Ukuru-Class ships. They are replaced by an early version of the Okinawa-Class that then upgrades to the original Okinawa design that is in the game. Will Post a screenshot of that in a while.

3. Going on the comment made earlier regarding the small building run of the Japanese 40MM AA gun, any Japanese cruiser or larger with an upgrade in late-44 will gain a FEW of these guns. Roughly half of all Japanese CL+ have the opportunity to upgrade in 9--10--11--12/44 so this provides a small opportunity for these more effective weapons. How effective? Pends on what is still floating in late-44!

Here is the early-43 Okinawa Class:

This is the 'standard' Okinawa with its normal start time:

Here is a 40MM Upgrade example for Hiryu:

Same for the Mogami-Class CL Cruiser:

Looking good!

Did some literal counting of 40MM tubes and decided to apply that number to the Fleet.

Was just looking over the starting map from both the Japanese and Allied sides and WOW there are lots of new toys with BOTH sides.

Allies
1. Saw those two gorgeous American Battlecruisers and the all the CA/CLVs.
2. Forgot about the French contingent in Tahiti.
3. The addition of all those specialized American SS (3 ML, 3 HUGE SS, and 3 seaplane SS--The Americans get their own Gadfly Recon Subs).
4. The augmented Force Z with Renown attached.
5. Reinforced Aussie and NZ Fleets (CAV, several DDs each, and a couple Aussie SS)
6. The reinforced Asiatic Fleet with an extra CA, CL, and 8 modern DDs.

What a wild and crazy game BTS is at start. YUMMY!

Had forgotten some of the additions...

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Was just looking over the starting map from both the Japanese and Allied sides and WOW there are lots of new toys with BOTH sides.

Allies
1. Saw those two gorgeous American Battlecruisers and the all the CA/CLVs.
2. Forgot about the French contingent in Tahiti.
3. The addition of all those specialized American SS (3 ML, 3 HUGE SS, and 3 seaplane SS--The Americans get their own Gadfly Recon Subs).
4. The augmented Force Z with Renown attached.
5. Reinforced Aussie and NZ Fleets (CAV, several DDs each, and a couple Aussie SS)
6. The reinforced Asiatic Fleet with an extra CA, CL, and 8 modern DDs.

What a wild and crazy game BTS is at start. YUMMY!

Had forgotten some of the additions...

The American BC's are much harder to upgrade than the French ones. Is that as designed?

How do you mean harder?

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

How do you mean harder?

I think he's talking about the required shipyard size....GP

Well...they are rather large, perdy wessels...

John,
Art wise, the following is missing;
G5N2 Liz and the A6M3b Zero. I would say that any new Japanese aircraft that you have made will need art. You could use existing art.

Allies;
French SS recon bird. Aussie and NZ naval aircraft from the Buff to the TBY's. All of this art can be had for the very low price of FREE from any Focus Pacific mod. I can Email to you, just PM your email again as I lost it....GP

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Well...they are rather large, perdy wessels...

True....GP

In my BtS game, I had BC Repulse at Sydney( repair shipyard of 30 ) and it would not upgrade even though it says it needs a size 15 or larger shipyard.
I have her moving to PH now to see if that is big enough.

ORIGINAL: General Patton

ORIGINAL: John 3rd
How do you mean harder?

I think he's talking about the required shipyard size....GP

Sorry for not being clear. GP is right, I meant shipyard size.

What does not feel right, and it can go either way for me is that the refit of the American BC's takes a size 40 (or 50) shipyard, while the refit off the French BC's takes a size ZERO shipyard. Perhaps the numbers should be closer to each other?

Just a thought.

ORIGINAL: Kitakami

ORIGINAL: General Patton

ORIGINAL: John 3rd
How do you mean harder?

I think he's talking about the required shipyard size....GP

Sorry for not being clear. GP is right, I meant shipyard size.

What does not feel right, and it can go either way for me is that the refit of the American BC's takes a size 40 (or 50) shipyard, while the refit off the French BC's takes a size ZERO shipyard. Perhaps the numbers should be closer to each other?

Just a thought.

I wonder what all is being done on the upgrade.