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REF KA-52 Hokum RuAF.

For consideration please change:

KA-52 pre 2015 remove 12 X Vikhr loads and replace with 12 X Ataka AT-9 Spiral 2 (Laser command guided variant).
Add L-370-5 Vitebsk suite.
(The length difference between Vikhr and Ataka is obvious when seen side by side)

KA-52 post 2016 add 12 x Vikhr-1/M.

Note:

6 x (APU-6 pylon) for AT-9 Spiral 2 (9M120-1) (Laser command guided variant of Ataka V). Note the two rows of three missiles of the APU-6.
The KA-52 initial production and deployed aircraft were fitted with the Shturm VK fire control system using the Ataka 9M120-1 ATGW.
The KBP web site > https://www.kbm.ru/en/production/ptrk/358.html

Vikhr pylon has two tubes over a row of four.
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/vikhr.htm
http://www.armyrecognition.com/february ... 02167.html

Despite initially being armed with the first incarnation of the Vikhr the KA-50 was only equipped with the Vikhr for a limited deployment and trials,
and the KA-52 was NOT initially armed with the Vikhr missile.


Vikhr production stopped due to cost in the 90's and restarted again in 2013 with the Vikhr-1/M.
Only post 2015 when production issues were resolved were the most recent KA-52's likely to be using Vikhr - 9K121 missiles.
Latest production is likely to be the Vikhr M system using the upgraded Vikhr-1 missile.

https://southfront.org/russian-helicopt ... ria-photo/

https://rostechnologiesblog.wordpress.c ... this-year/
The Vikhr-M/1 missile has been mis-identified as the Hermes in some articles(it has obvious family lineage).

Checking the sensors in the DB all the L-370-5 components ECM/IRCM MAW LWR etc are already in the DB and annotated to the Ka-52 yet they aren't added to the KA-52 or KA-52K?

Regards

K

This isn't exactly for the databases, but would it be possible (assuming it isn't already) to have something like generic "Internal Weapons Bay" and "External Hardpoints" weapon mounts for aircraft in the scenario editor? Ideally these would also be compatible with / feature every data link under the sun, with the intent that scenario editors could experiment with things like, what if a B-2 could fire AMRAAMs?, without having to make specific requests here. As mentioned, generic, specifically internal and external mounts would allow you to not spoil stealth aircraft, or inversely to ensure that aerodynamic and RCS penalties apply.

Marine Hornet IOC APKWS guided Rockets.

Picture and source here on NAVAIR tweets

https://twitter.com/NAVAIRNews/status/9 ... 2821135360

ORIGINAL: Dragon029

This isn't exactly for the databases, but would it be possible (assuming it isn't already) to have something like generic "Internal Weapons Bay" and "External Hardpoints" weapon mounts for aircraft in the scenario editor?

There was some topics, including mine, were posted about user-editable loadouts for aircrafts. But for some reasons they remain to be done by loadout preset only.

On a second though, maybe the loadout selection can comes with set-rules, from heaviest ordinance to the lightest for player to choose individually. If player wants additional pylons, or add some fuel tanks, bombs, or some kind of mix, a several selection menus will allow player to decide how heavy the loadout he want, instead of the fixed roles or overly unorthodox selections.

Like if a small fighter have 2 pylons on each wing and maximum 1500 lbs loadout weight limit, in theory the aircraft can load 3 500 lbs bombs. However if the aircraft has the proven limit that cannot exceed 750 lbs on each wing, then the fighter can only load one on each wing -- 2 in total, which is 1 less than theoretical. When player has readied the loadout selection, it will automatically remove two pylons from the wings which is not loaded with anything to reduce a bit of weight.

Of course if the same fighter want some CAP, then it can mount 2 AAMs that each one of those cannot exceed 250 lbs. However, the trick of individually selectable options can comes with more flexibility rather than "CAS+CAP" "Pure CAP" or some other fixed loadout sets like from CMANO. If he want CAP and then realized he also want a bit of precision strike against one mobile surface unit, then he can choose 1 AAM and 1 AGM. As long as these weapons aren't exceeding the wing weight or pylon limits, the aircraft should able to load them. Once all 4 pylons are fully set, the other ordinances will gray out and unable to load anything else, even the total weight (not wing weight) is not exceed the limit.

Same for stealth fighters, the first selecting menu for player to choose is weapon bay only, or comes with wing pylons. If he want stealth, some ordinances that only capable to mount on external pylons will gray out and will not let player to choose. If the latter, he also need to abide with wing weight limit so the fighter will automatically load the selected weapons evenly and avoid overload on each side of the wing.

Lastly for the moddability, I'd suggest some universal pylons like you said. I did saw some crazy scenarios like a civilian plane loaded with nukes, or like you said, bomber loaded with AAMs.

I think that SPY-1D´s range, and probably SPY-1B too, could be 256 nm instead of the 175 nm stated on the DB. Several sources mention it, although only this one appears to have a degree of credibility: http://www.defensa.com/espana/defensa-a ... ana-prueba

In Spanish: la fragata Blas de Lezo aportaba la capacidad de su dotación y sus sensores, principalmente su radar Lockheed Martin SPY-1D, que con sus 475 kilómetros de alcance refuerza de una manera muy eficaz la capacidad de las estaciones de radar del Ejército del Aire

Translation: the frigate Blas de Lezo provided the capacity of its crew and its sensors, mainly its Lockheed Martin SPY-1D radar, which with its 475 kilometers of range strengthens in a very effective way the capacity of the radar stations of the Air Force

475 km = 256 nm

In addition, that figure appears on several more sources... not so reliable in appearance, although they contain apparently detailed information:

https://quizlet.com/64668521/aegisssss-flash-cards/
https://www.studyflashcard.com/flashcar ... deck/12806
https://www.freezingblue.com/flashcards ... tID=309681
http://www.nrotc.web.arizona.edu/data/101/swo_brief.ppt (page 16)

Moreover, a very reliable human source told me years ago that the SPY-1D range was exactly 256 nm, so I´m pretty sure that this is the case. But this is an Internet forum and I cannot seriously ask you guys to believe me, so consider only the previous sources [:D]

Taken all of this in account... I guess that the 175 nm range, already mentioned on several 1980s sources (for example: The Naval Institute Guide to World Naval Weapons Systems), could be referred to the early SPY-1A. SPY-1B has twice the power, so maybe the range was increased too.

PS. This source also gives a "250+ nm" range for the SPY-1: https://www.forecastinternational.com/a ... RC_ID=1812

Turkish 'Tuzla' class patrol boat.

16 hulls operated by Turkey
10 hulls operated by Turkmenistan

https://turkishnavy.net/patrol-craft/tuzla-class/
http://www.dearsan.com/dunya-basininda/naval-forces-article-related-tuzla-class-patrol-boat.html
http://www.dearsan.com/en/products/57m-patrol-boat.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuzla-class_patrol_boat

Turkmenistan version with 2x SIMBAD-RC - this reference also suggests that they may get MDBA'a Marte Mk 2/N ASM (adding a nice little punch to a small PB)
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/january-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/4846-turkmenistan-s-coast-guard-patrol-boat-spotted-with-simbad-rc-short-range-naval-air-defence-system.html

Please add upcoming Finnish Navy Squadron 2020 -project to database. Project name is Squadron 2020 and class name is Pohjanmaa, 4 new corvets total.

Details are still estimates.

• Lenght: 105m
• Displacement: 3000t
• Beam: 15m
• Draft: 5m
• Speed: 25+ knots (???)
• Crew: 60-120
• Bofors 57 mm Mk 3
• Rheinmetall MASS
• Torped 47
• CEROS 200
• Radar: Integrated to mast (???)
• Mk 41 VLS
• ESSM
• CIWS: Millennium Gun (???)
• Hull and towed sonars (???)
• Harpoon RGM-84
• Helicopter deck and hangar
• Mine deck (rails)
• Ice breaking capability
• Electronic countermeasure, jamming (???)

More info in english:
https://www.defmin.fi/en/administrative ... adron_2020
https://www.defmin.fi/files/3819/Squadr ... roject.pdf

I know radar ranges are ever contested, and usually don't write about it to avoid irresoluble feuds.

But the last week discovered one or some Korean Wikipedia editors have detailed some radar ranges compilations and number of T/R modules (From OSINT) on many radar types entries on Korean Wikipedia:
https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/SPY-1

And here Chinese radar ranges (Obviously South Koreans are very interested on it!):
https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/346%EC%8B ... 4%EB%8D%94

The problem with the SPY-1 range is that the most credible sources constantly refers to a figure that dates back to the late 80s (even quoted in the first part of the Korean article: 175 nm max range, and 45 nm against sea-skimmers).

But later on, in that same article, they are nearly spot on with the 450-1,000 km range (450 km against air targets, 1,000 km against ballistic missiles).

Please add US Navy EC-24A Electronic Aggressor Aircraft. Thank you!

Training but probably fleet support as well. Spent lots of time in Waddington UK. IOC=1966 Retired=1998

Stats (Global Security)
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... -specs.htm

EC-24A=series 50 DC-8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-8

More stats

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/163050.html

Pictures
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... 4-pics.htm

The Naval Test Wing Pacific provides test aircraft and the ability to modify these aircraft in support of test and training operations. During realistic Fleet training and weapon systems Test and Evaluation (T&E), representative target vehicles are used in a realistic, radio frequency (RF), threat environment. The AN/ULQ-21(V) modules are mounted inside the AN/ALQ-167(V) pod in many different combinations of modules. As the airborne ³host vehicle² for ECM systems, the AN/ALQ-167(V) pod can be carried on manned aircraft. These aircraft include the A-6E, the EA-6A, the EA-6B, the EP-3J, the F-14A/B/D, the F/A-18A/D, the EC-24A, the NKC-135 and the Q-Lear.

ORIGINAL: kojis

Please add upcoming Finnish Navy Squadron 2020 -project to database. Project name is Squadron 2020 and class name is Pohjanmaa, 4 new corvets total.

Details are still estimates.

• Lenght: 105m
• Displacement: 3000t
• Beam: 15m
• Draft: 5m
• Speed: 25+ knots (???)
• Crew: 60-120
• Bofors 57 mm Mk 3
• Rheinmetall MASS
• Torped 47
• CEROS 200
• Radar: Integrated to mast (???)
• Mk 41 VLS
• ESSM
• CIWS: Millennium Gun (???)
• Hull and towed sonars (???)
• Harpoon RGM-84
• Helicopter deck and hangar
• Mine deck (rails)
• Ice breaking capability
• Electronic countermeasure, jamming (???)

More info in english:
https://www.defmin.fi/en/administrative ... adron_2020
https://www.defmin.fi/files/3819/Squadr ... roject.pdf

Frankly, none of that is set as definitive. E.g, Harpoon is only one of 3 contenders. FMS permit was sought to make possible sale quicker. Others are NSM and RBS 15 Mk3+.

Only thing definitive is Torped 47, VDS sonar, 57mm gun, CEROS, ice breaking capability and MASS.

Please Add UK Marconi S-600 System. Was used on Falklands in late 82 after fight and in UK since 1968. You have other entry for Norway #930

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/ ... 0radar.pdf

Source http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/ ... ds%20Story

Please add for Oman

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/ ... r%20System

Malaysia 1969

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/ ... 00%20radar

Saudi Arabia 1972

http://www.radarpages.co.uk/download/p172.pdf

Yugoslavia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_A ... ir_Defence

Looks like Kenya, Turkey, Thailand

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/ ... ni%20Radar

Abu Dhabi/UAE: 1976

http://marconiradarhistory.pbworks.com/ ... bu%20Dhabi

ORIGINAL: emsoy

ORIGINAL: Yvonmukluk
I noticed that the USS Lexington (CV-16) isn't in the DB3000. While obviously it was only a training carrier by 1980, it does have the distinction of being the longest-serving Essex-class carrier, serving up until 1991.

Hello, Ragnar! Your database work is excellent considering the density of data you've had to implement, but I've just noticed the same issue Yvonmukluk did here last summer.

The late-model SCB-27C/125 Essex-class carrier USS Lexington (CV/CVA/CVT-16) was in commission until 1991, well into DB3000's covered time period, but does not appear in DB3000 as of Build 473. Which is bizarre, because it's right there in CWDB and has been there for quite some time.

Would it be possible to (please!) include the Lexington in DB3000 as well?

The final version of Lexington can be found under CWDB ID# 2191. As far as I am aware, Lexington remained fundamentally unchanged from the 60s to the end of its career, and therefore hopefully requires minimal work to port over.

In case you need some hard evidence to support adding it to DB3000, here is a quote on its decommissioning date directly from the ship's factsheet on the official USN website's archives at navy.mil/navydata/nav_legacy.asp?id=33.

Lexington operated out of her home port, Pensacola, as well as Corpus Christi and New Orleans, qualifying student aviators and maintaining the high state of training of both active duty and reserve naval aviators. Lexington marked her 200,000th arrested landing 17 October 1967, and was redesignated CVT-16 on 1 January 1969. She continued as a training carrier for the next 22 years until decommissioned 8 November 1991.

Many thanks in advance!

http://fb.ru/article/225458/ryichag-av- ... noy-borbyi

Mi-8AMTSh Syrian RuAF.
Vitebsk L-370-5
In the absence of any Raduga type transmitter dome like the Mi-24 it would appear the 9M120-1 laser command guided variant is used.
For the purpose of the sim the 9M120-1 is essentially the same as the initial radio series but would be less vulnerable to jamming, and possibly faster.
For consideration please?
K
Just noticed the picture is flipped but it makes the point.

Spice 1000 now loadout of Israeli Barack F-16C/D. Confirmed by IDF with picture

http://www.iaf.org.il/4470-50031-en/IAF.aspx

is it possible to add several types of generic cargo of various sizes (maybe personal, small, medium, large, and very large)

Look like Rodina have replacement of USET-80 coming. Buy 73 UET Torpedo.

Jane Source on a purchase

http://www.janes.com/article/78414/russ ... es-by-2023

Russia Source

http://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/ ... 690@egNews

Data Deagles

http://www.deagel.com/Defensive-Weapons ... 12001.aspx

Thank!

Please add EPICURE SIGINT plane to the database.
User: France, 3x
IOC: 2025

The plane is a 3 engine Dassault Falcon business jet carrying a SIGINT (ELINT +COMINT) payload. It replaces the Gabriel SIGINT planes, so should carry an update of the Gabriel's payload. I propose 1x 500nm range, early 2020s all-bands ELINT sensor, and one 500nm early 2020s COMINT sensor.
Comms are likely to be at least link-16 and satcom.

sources: https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/gr ... air-force/
http://www.lepoint.fr/sciences-nature/l ... 1_1924.php

Dear developers,
How about adding the abandoned CGN(X) cruiser to the U.S. Navy as a hypothetical unit? All the specifications remain the same as the CG 21, except the followed:
Damage points: 2500
Standard displacement: 22300 tons
Full displacement: 25464 tons
Propulsion: 1*A1B Nuclear Reactor

Look like little update to Sonya minesweep #875

Now 25mm gun back and 30mm CIWS front

See

https://twitter.com/YorukIsik/status/970705259566981120