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RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:59 am
by Reg

No, I don't see any problem with that at all......... [:(][:(][:(]


RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:52 am
by sprior
Aha, but it could be we are smarter than they are ...

It could be... We're doomed aren't we?

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:56 am
by Roger Neilson II
We are all doomed, but some are doomed faster than others.

Roger

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:33 am
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson II

We are all doomed, but some are doomed faster than others.

Roger

[:D] Shades of Animal Farm?

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:03 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Against all odds, Soryu is still claiming to be sunk. I just know she is going to break my heart.

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RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:04 pm
by Roger Neilson II
Indeed, with S Beckett's view of life and death thrown in........

Roger

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:27 pm
by Cap Mandrake
*******Analysis of Allied Fighter production October 42*********

Let's look at October 42 after P-40E production has stopped and the K model is in production and the P-38F/G is rolling off the lines.


P-39...............................25
Sea Hurricane................5
F4F-4.............................45
Hurricane IIc..................36
P-38F/G..........................60
P-43A[:(].........................12
KittyhawkIII...................12
P40K..............................65
Beaufighter Vc................6
Spitfire Vc......................18

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Total............................284


Now, this is likely a bit rosier than reality because I am sure there will be some restricted squadrons mopping up US production of P-38's to some degree and because it may be difficult to fully employ the RCAF because of restrictions as well.



RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:35 pm
by Cap Mandrake
I suppose someone is going to tell us that wee Jap dobber pilot traing can also match the Allies in Scenario 2???

And carrier production too???

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:41 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

I suppose someone is going to tell us that wee Jap dobber pilot traing can also match the Allies in Scenario 2???

And carrier production too???

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:45 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Fighter inventory July 18, 1942

Somebody's cousin apparently has the contract for those crappy Fulmars. We are wallowing in Martlets too. Maybe they can get into the fight more. Perhaps we can sell some MiG's to Ecuador or something.

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RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:46 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

And carrier production too???

I think they get these in scenario 2:



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RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:50 pm
by Cap Mandrake
And why are we wasting 30 P-40E's on the soldiers of Orange? Aren't they all POW's already?

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:52 pm
by Wirraway_Ace
Yes and not quite yes. He gets plenty of decent pilots out of training and a few more CVs.

The basic truth is the air war in scenario two will not go like the real war. You will never achieve air supremacy and you will struggle with even achieving local air superiority. It will be a grind all the way to the home islands. No big deal as long as you adjust your expectations.

His Navy remains fragile however. Sink his ships! He can't replace them.

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:59 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace

Yes and not quite yes. He gets plenty of decent pilots out of training and a few more CVs.

The basic truth is the air war in scenario two will not go like the real war. You will never achieve air supremacy and you will struggle with even achieving local air superiority. It will be a grind all the way to the home islands. No big deal as long as you adjust your expectations.

His Navy remains fragile however. Sink his ships! He can't replace them.

Yes, it is beginning to look like the old strategy of achieve local air superiority, take the next island under air umbrella, build base...lather, rinse, repeat isn't going to work.

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:02 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Better perhaps would be carrier engagements without substantial land based air.......in other words, the Central Pacific

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:03 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: sprior
Aha, but it could be we are smarter than they are ...

It could be... We're doomed aren't we?

We still might be better looking. [:D]

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:05 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson II

We are all doomed, but some are doomed faster than others.

Roger

But I don't WANT to be doomed. I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T!

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:19 pm
by sprior
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: sprior
Aha, but it could be we are smarter than they are ...

It could be... We're doomed aren't we?

We still might be better looking. [:D]

That goes without saying.

RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:21 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

And carrier production too???

I think they get these in scenario 2:

Wrong empire, dude...

ETA: Puny earthlings...




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RE: Game theory and the Stasi

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:36 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Admiral Lord SPrior;

1) We are going to need a "shedload" of fuel at Perth.

2) Indomitable has to go back in 4 days. Might as well save the Fleet Air Arm squadrons and bring them with you. One of the RN carriers in NZ lost her fighters in some dreadful oversight.

2) Dragon and Glasgow have to go back in 7 and 20 d respectively. They are both in TF 61 wherever that is.

3) You could get a few more transports by converting your RAF squadron to DC-3's. There are also 9 C-47's in inventory. You could start to fill out one of the understrength USAAF squdrons and use it.

4) All USN and RAN ships upgrades should be done within 3 weeks. I am sending New Mexico back to Pearl as she can't upgrade in theater. Pennsylvania, Idaho, Nevada, North Carolina and Repulse will all be ready if you go by sea.