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ORIGINAL: Zia ur Huriya

Dear developers,
How about adding the abandoned CGN(X) cruiser to the U.S. Navy as a hypothetical unit? All the specifications remain the same as the CG 21, except the followed:
Damage points: 2500
Standard displacement: 22300 tons
Full displacement: 25464 tons
Propulsion: 1*A1B Nuclear Reactor

I see one problem with this right off. Propulsion and electric power was to be provided by 2x S6W (Seawolf) reactor plants. There is absolutely no way an A1B plant would fit in that hull. Weapons and sensors would be complete speculation. I guess that's two problems, as much fun as it would be

Ohio Class SSGN

The submarine as currently implemented lacks the capability to carry special operations forces (e.g. Navy SEALS, USMC MARSOC) as cargo. The platform has space for up to 66 SOF personel.

Supporting Documentation:
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_displ ... =4&tid=300
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=ada491329
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=5767

It is written on Wikipedia that there were two options to choose from,“using two of the Seawolf-class submarines' 34 MW S6W reactors, and halving one of the two 550 MW(th) A4W reactors used in Nimitz-class aircraft carriers. The first option would not even match Zumwalt for power, while the second option probably would not fit into the Zumwalt hull”. So probably its propulsion would also be a hypothetical unit, for example C2W, C1G, C1B etc.
As for the weapons and sensors, they developers have already made some quite good speculations on the CG 21, for instance the AN/SPY-3&4 Dual Band Radar and the Mk57 PVLS. The missiles in the PVLSs could be SM-3, SM-6, VL-ASROC, or anything that is loaded in today’s Arleigh Burke class destroyers and Ticonderoga class cruisers.

ORIGINAL: Zia ur Huriya

It is written on Wikipedia that there were two options to choose from,“using two of the Seawolf-class submarines' 34 MW S6W reactors, and halving one of the two 550 MW(th) A4W reactors used in Nimitz-class aircraft carriers. The first option would not even match Zumwalt for power, while the second option probably would not fit into the Zumwalt hull”. So probably its propulsion would also be a hypothetical unit, for example C2W, C1G, C1B etc.
As for the weapons and sensors, they developers have already made some quite good speculations on the CG 21, for instance the AN/SPY-3&4 Dual Band Radar and the Mk57 PVLS. The missiles in the PVLSs could be SM-3, SM-6, VL-ASROC, or anything that is loaded in today’s Arleigh Burke class destroyers and Ticonderoga class cruisers.

I’m a nuclear engineer and I worked on the preliminary design for the reactor plant and propulsion plant of CGN(X). The preliminary design WAS for 2 Seawolf reactors. The 34 MW power rating you quote is wildly incorrect. That's not the power rating of the reactor. That's the shaft horsepower converted to MW. The 550MW you list for A4W IS the reactor power rating. Different kettle of fish. Unfortunately I can't reveal the actual rating. (It's bigger). There's no "probably" about fitting an A4W plant. It didn't fit. Not even close and it wasn't ever seriously considered.

There was also no option for development of a new reactor. That would have taken many years of up front work that would have had to have been started long before the ship design and the cost would have been prohibitive for what the Navy wanted for CGN(x). That's why the Seawolf reactor was chosen. Already a proven design and there had been plans to build 20 Seawolfs before the Soviet Union collapsed and the class was cancelled at 3.

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Thanks for your informative reply and for clearing up my misunderstanding regarding the reactors.

ORIGINAL: Zia ur Huriya

Thanks for your informative reply and for clearing up my misunderstanding regarding the reactors.

No problem. In general you won't find accurate numbers for US submarine reactor plant power ratings anywhere. Any that you do find should be taken as estimates. Whoever wrote that Wikipedia article didn't have a good understanding of what the numbers were.

The 2nd Type 927 SURTASS ship has been launched
On occasion of the serial production of this class of ASW ships, I would like to lobby the devs for the addition of this ship.
The equipment would be comparable to that of the USNS Impeccable, which serves a similar purpose.

https://twitter.com/xinfengcao/status/9 ... 9499574272

I've got a couple minor database fixes for Canada.

1. ADATS
1.a. Because it's "Air Defense Anti Tank System", it can hit ground targets, too. Can you add land structures and mobile vehicles to its valid targets?
1.b. The warhead is a combined fragmentation and shaped charge warhead; can this be modeled in the database? With the damage models, this should make it more lethal to ground and air targets than just a frag warhead.


2. CRV7 70 mm Rocket
2.a. Can you change the CSAR loadout for the CH-146 Griffon from Hydra-70 rockets to the domestically-produced CRV7?
2.b. It uses the exact same M151 ten-pound warhead as the Hydra-70. Can you synchronize its damage values with the Hydra?
2.c. If Wikipedia and the manufacturer's brochures are to be believed, supposedly it has better accuracy and kinematic performance to the Hydra-70. Would it be worth it to reflect that in the database?
2.d. Can you add the CRV7-PG, a laser-seeking variant pretty much the same as the database-extant HYDRA APKWS II? I don't know how to find deployment information, but I figure they're available for platforms that are: 1) Have a post-2007 variant, 2) Already carry the CRV7, and 3) Carry a laser designator or laser designator pod. This limits them to only a handful of platforms.
I'm not allowed to post links, but the Wikipedia page has links to the manufacturer's brochures in pdf form.

CWDB B998.7

Beginning with #1624 - CA 124 Rochester all the way through #59 CAG 2 Canberra, all have incorrect aircraft facilities. All are US cruisers that have aircraft carrier arresting wires, catapults, and/or 24 aircraft capacity.

ORIGINAL: miller7219

CWDB B998.7

Beginning with #1624 - CA 124 Rochester all the way through #59 CAG 2 Canberra, all have incorrect aircraft facilities. All are US cruisers that have aircraft carrier arresting wires, catapults, and/or 24 aircraft capacity.

This should be posted in the CWDB requests thread.

Request to add OECM capability to all F/A-18 variants equipped with the AN/APG-79. This is consistent with the F-35 AESA implementation.

Source: 2008 Powerpoint from VX-31 on AN/APG-79 testing explicitly call out electronic attack as features.

Slide 12 and 13 - List Electronic Attack as both an A/A and A/G feature.
Slide 39 - Shows bandwidth of various aircraft features, explicitly calling out Electronic Attack/Support bandwidth on the radar. Numbers and threats appear to be removed for classification, but EA bandwidth is larger than the radar bandwidth.
Slide 44 - Shows aircraft avionic controls for Electronic Attack option and method selection.

While I suspect that all AESAs likely have similar functions, I can't find any documentation for APG-77/-82 (or Russian radars).

Please add SAM Section FIM-92E: Stinger – RMP Block I to Finland. It has replaced Iglas totally already years ago and Iglas were phased out.

Links are in my previous post. Just a friendly reminder. Nothing urgent. Can always use US (etc. unit) in scenario.

This is link to FDF equipment list (official):

http://maavoimat.fi/ito15
http://maavoimat.fi/ilmatorjunta

Russia Kh-32 missile article:

Range estimated to be 800km
Cruise altitude estimated to be 40 km, then terminal nose dive
Speed estimated to be 5400 km/h.
Missile radar range estimated to be 200-300 km


http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... art-1.html

So a few days ago I posted a thread on Chinese nuclear forces, and emsoy asked the participants to leave a list of Chinese nuclear capable aircraft. I have decided to post it here however because it is more fitting to the section. Furthermore, I have decided to post speculatory/missing Chinese nuclear capable ballistic missile requests as well.

Aircraft-

Nanchang Q-5Jia -- China (Air Force), 1970, Few built

Armed with a choice of either 20kt, 15kt, or 8kt tactical nuclear weapons, presumably still capable of carrying the conventional munitions of the standard Q-5. It uses the loft bombing technique exclusively in delivery of nuclear weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanchang_Q-5
https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/china/q-5.htm
Page 102 of this- https://fas.org/nuke/guide/china/Book2006.pdf

H-6E Badger -- China (Air Force), 1980, Nuclear bomber

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_H-6#Variants

Note- the current H-6E could be renamed H-6E -- China (Air Force), 2001-, PLAAF, Conventional bomber

Hypothetical/theoretical platforms, only speculated by various intelligence agencies-

H-5A Beagle -- China (Air Force), Nuclear bomber

This would carry either a 20kt, 15kt, or 8kt nuclear weapon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_ ... e_variants
Page 102 of this- https://fas.org/nuke/guide/china/Book2006.pdf

Su-30MKK Flanker G -- China (Air Force), 2002, Nuclear capable
Su-30MKK Flanker G -- China (Air Force), 2018, Nuclear capable

This would also presumably carry the same tactical bombs as before- 20kt, 15kt, and 8kt- but hypothetically with modifications to reduce drag.

Page 102 of this merely suggests the idea, but still an interesting platform- https://fas.org/nuke/guide/china/Book2006.pdf

JH-7A Flounder -- China (Air Force), 2008, PLAAF, nuclear capable
JH-7A Flounder -- China (Air Force), 2018, PLAAF, nuclear capable

This would also have the 20kt, 15kt, and 8kt weapons as loadouts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and ... mber_Group

H-6K Badger [God of War] -- China (Air Force), 2011, PLAAF, 6x KD-20/CJ-10A ALCM, New Production, Nuclear

This is based on the speculation that the CJ-10 is nuclear capable. Loadouts are as follows-

FAB-250M-54 GPB (Strike, Land/Naval) - 36x FAB-250M-54 GPB

KD-20 [CJ-10A] (Standoff Strike, Land) - 6x KD-20 [CJ-10A] ALCM

KD-63 [YJ-63] (Standoff Strike, Land/Naval) - 4 x KD-63 [YJ-63]

KD-20 [CJ-10A, 50kt] (Standoff Strike, Land) - 6x KD-20 [CJ-10A, 50kt] ALCM

KD-20 [CJ-10A, 50kt] (Standoff Strike, Land) - 6x KD-20 [CJ-10A, 200kt] ALCM

Missiles-

Note- these are all based on speculation revolving around tactical nuclear weapons development, and should all be marked as hypothetical.

SSM Bty (CJ-10) -- China (Army), 2008, 50kt Nuclear with 4x CJ-10 [Nuclear] TEL, with 3x DF-10 GLCM [50kt Nuclear] per mount

SSM Bty (CJ-10) -- China (Army), 2008, 200kt Nuclear with 4x CJ-10 [Nuclear] TEL, with 3x DF-10 GLCM [200kt Nuclear] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-11 [CCC-7 Mod-1] TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 1994, Nuclear with 4x DF-11 [Nuclear] TEL [CSS-7 Mod-1], with 1x DF-11 [50kt Nuclear, CSS-7 Mod-1] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-11A [CCC-7 Mod-2] TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 2000, Nuclear with 4x DF-11A [Nuclear] TEL [CSS-7 Mod-2], with 1x DF-11A [50kt Nuclear, CSS-7 Mod-2] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-12 TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 2014, Nuclear with 3x DF-12 TEL [Nuclear], with 2x DF-12 [50kt Nuclear] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-15 [CSS-6 Mod-1] TEL -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 1992, 50kt Nuclear with 4x DF-15 [Nuclear] TEL [CSS-6 Mod-1], with 1x DF-15 [50kt Nuclear, CSS-6 Mod-1] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-15 [CSS-6 Mod-1] TEL -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 1992, 200kt Nuclear with 4x DF-15 [Nuclear] TEL [CSS-6 Mod-1], with 1x DF-15 [200kt Nuclear, CSS-6 Mod-1] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-15 [CSS-6 Mod-1] TEL -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 1992, 350kt Nuclear with 4x DF-15 [Nuclear] TEL [CSS-6 Mod-1], with 1x DF-15 [350kt Nuclear, CSS-6 Mod-1] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-15B [CSS-6 Mod-2] TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 50kt Nuclear with 4x DF-15B [Nuclear] TEL [CSS-6 Mod-2], with 1x DF-15B [50kt Nuclear, CSS-6 Mod-2] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-15B [CSS-6 Mod-2] TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 200kt Nuclear with 4x DF-15B [Nuclear] TEL [CSS-6 Mod-2], with 1x DF-15B [200kt Nuclear, CSS-6 Mod-2] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-15B [CSS-6 Mod-2] TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 350kt Nuclear with 4x DF-15B [Nuclear] TEL [CSS-6 Mod-2], with 1x DF-15B [350kt Nuclear, CSS-6 Mod-2] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-16A TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 2012, 50kt Nuclear with 4x DF-16A [50kt Nuclear] TEL, with 1x DF-16A [50kt Nuclear] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-16A TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 2012, 200kt Nuclear with 4x DF-16A [50kt Nuclear] TEL, with 1x DF-16A [200kt Nuclear] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-16A TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 2012, 350kt Nuclear with 4x DF-16A [50kt Nuclear] TEL, with 1x DF-16A [350kt Nuclear] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-25 TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 2015, Nuclear with 4x DF-25 [Nuclear] TEL, with 1x DF-25 [200kt Nuclear, CSS-5 Mod-3] per mount

SSM Bn (DF-25 TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 2015, Nuclear with 4x DF-25 [Nuclear] TEL, with 1x DF-25 [3 MIRV x 200kt Nuclear, CSS-5 Mod-3] per mount

SSM Silo (DF-41 [CSS-X-10]) -- China (PLARF), 2015, Nuclear with 1x DF-41 Silo [CSS-X-10], with 1x DF-41 [6 MIRV x 150kt Nuclear, CSS-10] on the mount

There you have it. Tommorow I will write a request on the remaining platforms- the DF-31AG, DF-11AZT, Xian H-8, and DF-5C.

And here is the second part-

Aircraft-

H-8 -- China (Air Force), 2006, Upgraded H-6

In its hypothetical configuration, this is quite an eccentric aircraft, capable of nuclear weapons delivery, anti-shipping operations, conventional bombs (including an 9000kg bomb), as well as land attack cruise missile carrying.

General Data-

Category: Fixed Wing
Type: Bomber
Length: 48.50 m
Wingspan: 46.47 m
Height: 13.85 m
Crew: 6
Empty Weight: 38500 kg
Max Weight: 163000 kg
Max Payload: 18000 kg
OODA cycle:
Detection: 15 seconds Observe, Orient, Decide, and Act (reaction time)
Targeting: 40 seconds (Nove Proficiency Level)
30 seconds(Cadet)
24 seconds (Regular)
20 seconds (Veteran)
16 seconds (Ace)
Evasion: 2 seconds
Aircraft size: Very Large Aircraft (26.1-75m Long)
Agility: 1.5
Average Climb Rate: 2580 ft/min, 13 m/sec
Instantaneous Climb Rate, S/L: 7740 ft/min, 39 m/sec
Take-off/Landing Distance: 2001m-2600m TOD/LAD
Cockpit Visibility:
Forward: Average
Sideways: Average
Aft: Poor
Armor:
Fuselage: None
Cockpit: None
Powerplant: None
Damage Points: 20

Sensors/EW-

1 x China Type 211
1x China Type 245 [HL-6D]
1 x China Type 773 [DPL-1]
1x Generic MAWS
1 x Generic Tail Gun Director [TV Camera]
1 x Generic RWR
1 x Generic DECM [Advanced]
1 x Mk1 Eyeball

Mounts/Stores/Weapons-

1x 23mm AM-23 x 2 [250 rnds x 2], with 10x 23mm AM-23 x 2 Burst [50 rnds] on the mount. Can be direct by: China Type 211, Generic Tail Gun Director [TV Camera]

Aircraft Loadouts-

(Ferry) - N/A

(Maintenance [Unavailable]) - N/A

(Reserve [Available]) - N/A

China Type 639-6 Strategic Bomb [3.3mT Nuclear] (Strike, Land/Naval) - 1x China Type 639-6 Strategic Bomb [3.3mT Nuclear]

This aircraft is also capable of carrying 2x 20kt nuclear bomb, 2x 15kt nuclear bomb, and 2x 8kt nuclear bomb, the same bombs as used on the Q-5Jia

FAB-100M-62 GPB (Strike, Land/Naval) - 48x FAB-100M-62 GPB

FAB-250M-54 GPB (Strike, Land/Naval) - 24x FAB-250M-54 GPB

FAB-500M-54 GPB (Strike, Land/Naval) - 12x FAB-500M-54 GPB

FAB-1000M-54 GPB (Strike, Land/Naval) - 6x FAB-1000M-62 GPB

FAB-1500M-54 GPB (Strike, Land/Naval) - 3x FAB-1500M-54 GPB

FAB-3000M-46 GPB (Strike, Land/Naval) - 3x FAB-3000M-46 GPB

FAB-9000M-54 GPB (Strike, Land/Naval) - 2x FAB-9000M-54 GPB

Generic 500kg Bottom Mine [Advanced] (Naval Mine Laying) - 12x Generic Mine [Bottom, Acoustic Narrow-Band Fuze & Target Discrimination]

C-601 (Standoff Strike, Naval) - 3x C-601 [YJ-6, CAS-1 Kraken]

C-611 [YJ-61] - 3x C-611 [YJ-61]

KD-63 [YJ-63] (Standoff Strike, Land/Naval) - 3x KD-63 [YJ-63]

YJ-83K [C-802AK] (Standoff Strike, Naval) - 3x YJ-83K [C-802AK]

Comms/Datalinks-

UHF/VHF Radio [Unsecure]
KD-63 [YJ-63] Command Datalink

Properties-

Night Navigation/Attack (Incl. Bomb, Rocket Delivery)
Bombsight - Ballistic Computing
Probe Refueling
Fuselage Structure - High Subsonic Bomber

Propulsion-

4x WS-6J [Type 910], Turbojet, Max Speed 539 kts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_H-8

Missiles-

SSM Bn (DF-11AZT [CSS-7 Mod-3] TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 2017, Conventional with 4x DF-11AZT TEL [CSS-7 Mod-3], with 1x DF-11AZT [Conventional, CSS-7 Mod-3] per mount. General characteristics- Max range is 324 nm, minimum range 50 nm, warhead is 500kg HE, CEP, Land (nominal) is 25m.

SSM Bn (DF-11AZT [CSS-7 Mod-3] TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 2017, Nuclear with 4x DF-11AZT [Nuclear] TEL [CSS-7 Mod-3], with 1x DF-11AZT [50kt Nuclear, CSS-7 Mod-3] per mount. General characteristics- Max range is 324 nm, minimum range 50 nm, warhead is 50kt Nuclear, CEP, Land (nominal) is 25m.

SSM Bn (DF-31B [CSS-9 Mod-3] TEL) -- China (PLARF), 2017, Nuclear with 4x DF-31B TEL [CSS-9 Mod-3], with 1x DF-31B [3 MIRV x 150kt Nuclear, CSS-9 Mod-3] per mount. General characteristics- Max range is 7600nm, minimum range is 500nm.

SSM Bn (DF-31 [CSS-9 Mod-1] TEL) -- China (Second Artillery Corps), 2006, Nuclear with 4x DF-31 TEL [CSS-9 Mod-1], with 1x DF-31 [1.0mT Nuclear, CSS-9 Mod-1] per mount. General characteristics- Max range is 6100nm, minimum range is 500nm.

SSM Silo (DF-5C [CSS-4 Mod-4]) -- China (PLARF), 2020 with 1x DF-5C Silo [CSS-4 Mod-4], with 1x DF-5C [10 MIRV x 150kt Nuclear, CSS-4 Mod-4] on the mount

Other-

Inf Plt (Chinese Army [ADM]) -- China (Army)

Inf Plt (Chinese Naval Infantry [ADM]) -- China (Naval Infantry)

Inf Plt (Marines [ADM]) -- China (Navy)

All of these are the standard infantry platoon with 4x Infantry Section [7.62mm MG/Unguided Infantry Anti Tank Weapon], except they have another mount-

1x ADM Saboteur, with 6x 5kt Generic Atomic Demolition Munition, with a range of 15 nm to represent remote detonation.

Aside from the Type 096 SSBN and Xian H-20, this is all of the missing Chinese nuclear forces for DB3000.

Look like Singapore get SAMP-T Aster 30 to replace I Hawk.

See twitter and picture.

https://twitter.com/TheBaseLeg/status/9 ... 6563256321

Please add GBU-69 SmallGuided Munition 2018 to drone and 130 Gunship

http://www.janes.com/article/71985/dyne ... n-contract

http://www.janes.com/article/78677/usso ... sgm-stocks

http://www.wearethemighty.com/news/the- ... ew-missile

Need fix of Australians Poseidon MPA in-service date. Now 2018

http://www.janes.com/article/78700/aust ... f-schedule

Infos CH-4 Drone

Spec data:

http://www.janes.com/article/72877/chin ... s-upgrades

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomac ... -have-96pc