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RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:50 pm
by jesperpehrson
ORIGINAL: Plain Ian
I like the commander of reknown tag. Prefer it better than the decorations tag which I think looks a bit strange when talking about higher level formations and not individuals or units. But it adds colour and is unusual so keep it in. Rather than being a dry OOB study the write up up could be the unit 'blog'..... to use the current terminology.
By the way my only hard copy source (I still go and look in my attic for the books rather than google) on German OOB (Hitlers Legions - Samuel W. Mitcham) says that XX Corps was raised in Danzig which would seem right because Wehrkreis XX was Danzig.
Keep up the good work though.
Ian from 'bonnie' Dundee
I doublechecked the origins of the XX Corps and it seems you might be right.
This is what threw me off:
Aufgestellt am 17. Oktober 1940 durch die Wehrersatzinspektion Berlin. My German is very poor and I might have missread the quote
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:54 pm
by jesperpehrson
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Greyshaft
ORIGINAL: capitan
As of now I do check the commanders in each Korps and if someone catches my eye as a famous person (judging subjectivly from my very own brand of ignorance) I will mention them. Of course this is not a very solid method.
Perhaps limit it to mentioning only those Generals who appear as HQ units within MWiF.
Just an idea
No. That is too restrictive.
I must agree with Steve on this. The HQs in WIF are were seldom commanders of corps. I have actually yet to find one but I am sure there are of course. The point of the commander of renown is rather to add spice than anything I think. Some odd details here and there makes for a peaked interest no?
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:45 pm
by Mziln
ORIGINAL: capitan
I must agree with Steve on this. The HQs in WIF are were seldom commanders of corps. I have actually yet to find one but I am sure there are of course. The point of the commander of renown is rather to add spice than anything I think. Some odd details here and there makes for a peaked interest no?
The HQs in WIF were seldom commanders of corps?
Heinz Wilhelm Guderian first served as the commander of the XIX Army Corps in the invasion of Poland.
Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel commanded the Deutsches Afrika Korps.
Omar Nelson Bradley commanded II Corps under Patton.
Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery, 1st Viscount Montgomery of Alamein commanded V Corps and later XII Corps.
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:17 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Mziln
ORIGINAL: capitan
I must agree with Steve on this. The HQs in WIF are were seldom commanders of corps. I have actually yet to find one but I am sure there are of course. The point of the commander of renown is rather to add spice than anything I think. Some odd details here and there makes for a peaked interest no?
The HQs in WIF were seldom commanders of corps?
Heinz Wilhelm Guderian first served as the commander of the XIX Army Corps in the invasion of Poland.
Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel commanded the Deutsches Afrika Korps.
Omar Nelson Bradley commanded II Corps under Patton.
Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery, 1st Viscount Montgomery of Alamein commanded V Corps and later XII Corps.
Well, there are 57 HQ units and a lot of them did not command corps (e.g., those from the minor countries).
Perhaps, what Capitan meant was that "Commanders of corps are rarely HQs in WIF". That was my reason for opening the commander reference to those beyond the HQs.
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:18 am
by jesperpehrson
ORIGINAL: Mziln
ORIGINAL: capitan
I must agree with Steve on this. The HQs in WIF are were seldom commanders of corps. I have actually yet to find one but I am sure there are of course. The point of the commander of renown is rather to add spice than anything I think. Some odd details here and there makes for a peaked interest no?
The HQs in WIF were seldom commanders of corps?
Heinz Wilhelm Guderian first served as the commander of the XIX Army Corps in the invasion of Poland.
Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel commanded the Deutsches Afrika Korps.
Omar Nelson Bradley commanded II Corps under Patton.
Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery, 1st Viscount Montgomery of Alamein commanded V Corps and later XII Corps.
There is no XIX german corps in WIF.
As for Rommel I just have not gotten there yet, still at infantry. Either way my point was there was seldom a WIF HQ serving as commander of a existing WIF-unit. Lets say 90-95% won´t have one of them, does that mean we should drop commanders of renown?
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:43 am
by jesperpehrson
Another topic that is coming increasingly closer the further down the list I go, is what to do with the divisions and also the the militias. The divisions I have been told are generic and any resemblence to an actual unit (1st german infantry division) is purely coincidential. The milities I have not found any information on.
Any thoughts or ideas on this? Some kind of generic information? A tourist guide to the city where the militia was stationed? [;)]
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:51 am
by Greyshaft
ORIGINAL: capitan
Another topic that is coming increasingly closer the further down the list I go, is what to do with the divisions and also the the militias. The divisions I have been told are generic and any resemblence to an actual unit (1st german infantry division) is purely coincidential. The milities I have not found any information on.
Any thoughts or ideas on this? Some kind of generic information? A tourist guide to the city where the militia was stationed? [;)]
Perhaps start out by saying that this is a generic description for that nationalities divisions then do some OOB for the standard division (10,000 men, 157 trucks, 2 illegal stills etc)
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:23 am
by Zorachus99
Considering Militia are often considered irregular troops by higher command they often get overlooked.
Lacking historical information you could simply have a statement that militia tend to vary in value based on the size of the city they originate from...
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:19 am
by grab
Hi Guys,
I have accepted the task of providing information on Artillery, Anti-tank and Anti-aircraft systems. If someone can let me now which systems are needed I can get cracking on them.
cheers
Gary
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:44 am
by jesperpehrson
ORIGINAL: grab
Hi Guys,
I have accepted the task of providing information on Artillery, Anti-tank and Anti-aircraft systems. If someone can let me now which systems are needed I can get cracking on them.
cheers
Gary
PM sent.
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:06 pm
by jesperpehrson
Here is a site with links to all (?) named operations of WW2, which can be useful for the campaigns-tag.
http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-mi ... operations
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:46 pm
by Froonp
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:51 pm
by Neilster
Shouldn't it be "Knight's Crosses" rather than "Knights Crosses"?
Whilst I like Fall Gelb etc, most people aren't going to have a clue. To save space, wouldn't it just be better to say Poland 39, Greece 41 etc?
Kurland is usually written Courland in English too. Good work all.
Cheers, Neilster
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:25 pm
by jesperpehrson
ORIGINAL: Neilster
Shouldn't it be "Knight's Crosses" rather than "Knights Crosses"?
Whilst I like Fall Gelb etc, most people aren't going to have a clue. To save space, wouldn't it just be better to say Poland 39, Greece 41 etc?
Kurland is usually written Courland in English too. Good work all.
Cheers, Neilster
You are right about the crosses of course.
About the original names of the Operations I kinda like to have both the name and the location. As long Steve does not tell us that we are short on space then I think this is the most interesting way to depict it.
Kurland - Courland. Any other opinions on this? I like Kurland but I guess it is not of any great importance.
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:52 pm
by Neilster
ORIGINAL: capitan
ORIGINAL: Neilster
Shouldn't it be "Knight's Crosses" rather than "Knights Crosses"?
Whilst I like Fall Gelb etc, most people aren't going to have a clue. To save space, wouldn't it just be better to say Poland 39, Greece 41 etc?
Kurland is usually written Courland in English too. Good work all.
Cheers, Neilster
You are right about the crosses of course.
About the original names of the Operations I kinda like to have both the name and the location. As long Steve does not tell us that we are short on space then I think this is the most interesting way to depict it.
Kurland - Courland. Any other opinions on this? I like Kurland but I guess it is not of any great importance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courland
Cheers, Neilster
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:54 pm
by jesperpehrson
ORIGINAL: Neilster
ORIGINAL: capitan
ORIGINAL: Neilster
Shouldn't it be "Knight's Crosses" rather than "Knights Crosses"?
Whilst I like Fall Gelb etc, most people aren't going to have a clue. To save space, wouldn't it just be better to say Poland 39, Greece 41 etc?
Kurland is usually written Courland in English too. Good work all.
Cheers, Neilster
You are right about the crosses of course.
About the original names of the Operations I kinda like to have both the name and the location. As long Steve does not tell us that we are short on space then I think this is the most interesting way to depict it.
Kurland - Courland. Any other opinions on this? I like Kurland but I guess it is not of any great importance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courland
Cheers, Neilster
I am aware of the english spelling but as I was using the german names for the operations I figured that the Kurland Pocket could use the German name as well. IMHO.
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:02 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: capitan
ORIGINAL: Neilster
Shouldn't it be "Knight's Crosses" rather than "Knights Crosses"?
Whilst I like Fall Gelb etc, most people aren't going to have a clue. To save space, wouldn't it just be better to say Poland 39, Greece 41 etc?
Kurland is usually written Courland in English too. Good work all.
Cheers, Neilster
You are right about the crosses of course.
About the original names of the Operations I kinda like to have both the name and the location. As long Steve does not tell us that we are short on space then I think this is the most interesting way to depict it.
Kurland - Courland. Any other opinions on this? I like Kurland but I guess it is not of any great importance.
Space is not an issue. But these writeups are intended to just be 'teases' and not doctoral dissentations. Their purpose is to give the players some information and stimulate them to do more reading on their own if they are interested.
EDIT: I wasn't specific enough here. I like including both Fall Gelb and Poland '39 - if the reader doesn't know what Fall Gelb was, then perhaps he'll go look it up.
Kurland or Courland, doesn't matter to me.
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:51 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
Here is the first of the writeups for the artillery/anti-tank/anti-aircraft from Gary.
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:23 pm
by Froonp
Great !
Some remarks :
In France we put a space between the digits and the numbers, that is, we write :
76.2 mm and not 76.2mm.
I find this more clean.
Also, avoid unusual abbreviations, you can write "rounds" instead of "rds" for the ammo.
Otherwise, I remember Steve answering me a year ago, while I was asking him if it would be possible to add such level of detail somewhere in the game, that he did not want MWiF to turn into a WWII cyclopaedia, and I'm happy he left us putting some WWII lore in his game [:D] [:D]
RE: Ideas for Land Unit writeups
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:37 pm
by jesperpehrson
Great job Gary! Looks fantastic!