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Hi all,

What do others think on this? Would you rather we stuck with a universal naming convention and a universal metric measure or do you prefer the current historical ( albeit inconsistent ) regime?

Historic everything --- names, measures -- the works!! After all, these are "historical" games right?? [:-]

Regards,

Rob. [:)]

keep it historically accurate

real unit name and real weapon names, put some extra info in the manual but dont clutter up the screen with duplicated info

Arjuna: Would you rather we stuck with a universal naming convention and a universal metric measure or do you prefer the current historical ( albeit inconsistent ) regime?

My vote goes to the system currently in place. Please keep things historical.

Historical everything please
 
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ORIGINAL: Joe 98

Historical everything please
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Joe, this is fantastic ... we agree! [:'(]
Ray

I vote for historical in everything also.
For total ww2 newbies, 40mm instead of 2 pd would not clarify much either about the capacities of the weapon.
What its needed is easily accesible information about the performance of the gun (penetration, range...) and a picture.

Abou the resolution question, 1280x1024 is ok to me, but the poll results clearly shows that its not a good idea.

Arsan

I hate all these inches, feets, yards, fathoms, rods, chains, furlongs, miles, leagues, butts, pipes, pounds, burrels... but even this can't stop me playing COTA [:)]

It might be under historical names... at least for easier googling [8D]

ORIGINAL: Arsan
I vote for historical in everything also.
For total ww2 newbies, 40mm instead of 2 pd would not clarify much either about the capacities of the weapon.
What its needed is easily accesible information about the performance of the gun (penetration, range...) and a picture.

FWYW, I second that.

JeF.

Thanks JeF
But...what does FWYW means??? [&:][:D][&:][:D]
Arsan

ORIGINAL: Arsan
But...what does FWYW means??? [&:][:D][&:][:D]

Nothing. [:D]
I meant : FWIW - For What It's Worth.

It was late here...

JeF.

[:D]
Ok, now i see why even google could not tell me the meaning! [X(]

ORIGINAL: Arjuna

Firepower totals are already provided so I think that's a moot point.

I for one was originally in favour of going all metric but was convinced by others ( they know who they are [;)] ) to display those "quaint" imperial measures for the Brits, The irony is that now the Brits have gone metric and the Yanks have gone retro and brought back imperial measures. [;)]

We actually never converted. They made an attempt back when I was still a school boy. Getting a new generation of school children to accept and learn a different system wasn't so difficult. It was the economic impact of retooling every manufacturing and production facility across the country that eventually killed the effort.

We have some legacies of the effort in that most containers have dual labeling and most manufacturers and even most automobile enthusiasts now refer to engine size in liters rather than in cubic inches.

The one that still gives me the most difficulty is temperature. I have been reading the Stackpole Military History Series books this past year, many of which are recent translations of works of German soldiers. When I read of combat actions in minus 30 degree weather I have a hard time relating to it as in our system "minus" doesn't refer to "zero" it refers to "freezing" which is 32 degres, so "minus 30" to me means 2 degrees above "zero" which isn't anywhere close to as cold as 30 degrees Celsius (Centagrade) below freezing.

I have the same difficulty with references to the temp warming up on the battlefield. When these German soldiers refer to it warming up to a more comfortable temp of 16 degrees, to me that is still 16 degrees below freezing, which I don't consider warm at all!

I have just never been able to make the conversion in my head from Celsius to Farenhiet.[&:]

And your military use metrics, demonstrating again that even the most conservative of institutions can change when confronted with the obvious benefits of a better system. [:)] This is why I'm still optomistic about converting all those traditional turn based wargamers. [;)]

My eyes need a minimum screen of 1024 x 768 (I have already voted).

My brain likes:
1) historical naming convention
2) historical weapon names.

In other words, I like the game as it is now.

ORIGINAL: HansBolter
I have the same difficulty with references to the temp warming up on the battlefield. When these German soldiers refer to it warming up to a more comfortable temp of 16 degrees, to me that is still 16 degrees below freezing, which I don't consider warm at all!

Ah! Is THAT why Americans can't get their heads around the concept of global warming? [;)]
Ray

ORIGINAL: RayWolfe

ORIGINAL: HansBolter
I have the same difficulty with references to the temp warming up on the battlefield. When these German soldiers refer to it warming up to a more comfortable temp of 16 degrees, to me that is still 16 degrees below freezing, which I don't consider warm at all!

Ah! Is THAT why Americans can't get their heads around the concept of global warming? [;)]
Ray

It's gunna get hotter before it gets colder, ain't nothin we can do about it. I think the wolrd we be a nice place if it were a few degrees warmer (the benifits would be a large subject. I can understand the worries and paranoid thoughts of those who live on little Islands (even if it is a country) or coastal swamps-they just need to take their medication and relax.[:D] BTW, remember that the U.S. stopped making freon many years ago, but the ozone hole is at a record size-that does worry me (albiet, not as much as a Kiwi).
Regarding the screen resolutuin issue; as long as there is the option to use the current resolution settings, I'll be happy. I have a 21' wide screen and prefer a setting of 1440 by 900. I would love to have additional weapons/unit data available on the screen. If a new minimum screen resolution is required to do this-I say do it. Sorry guys, but progress must continue. Besides, a new LCD will be much better for your eyes (I'm 50 and don't need glasses yet). Break out the plastic and enjoy life-after all, it's getting hotter.....

06 Maestro,
 
It's great to see such a laid back attitude and I do like your "let's embrace the new" attitude too.
 
However, for one living in Australia, I am definitiely not in favour of sitting back and playing my fiddle while the world burns under global warming. Living in Canberra, we have no fears of being inundated by rising sea levels, though I do worry that all those Sydney-siders who get washed out that will inundate our small lovely city and we'll end up like all the other big rat races with inflated land prices and a two hour drive to work each day. ( Actually we already have the inflated land prices. [;)] )
 
Besides, the real killer blow form global warming, we are already experiencing, is the drying up of our continent. Average max temps this winter/spring are five degrees above normal - all records. Very little rain. Major rivers drying up. Adelaide, a city of over a million, is dependent on the Murray river for water and things are looking bleak. And it's been getting worse and worse each year for the last ten. No amount of medication is going to make it rain, alas, and you can't take your medication without that glass of water. [;)]
 
So now that you yanks have got your President to listen, tell him it's time to do something significant about carbon emissions. Maybe then our Prime Minister might pull his head out of the sand and do likewise. What we all need right now is a focus on a sustainable solar future. No more fossil fuels or fools.
 
Oops...rant over! [:)] 

Arjuna

In an effort to avoid serious thread drift I will simply point out that LCD’s are much more energy efficient that CRT monitors. Also, generally speaking, the newer the model the more efficient. So, if someone is using a 5 year old monitor he/she is causing global warming and thus should purchase a new machine immediately.[;)]

As a citizen of the great state of Nevada, I too worry about the coastal dwellers. The Kaleivornia coast is about 300 miles (ok 500 km) from my home. Whether from rising seas or from the south coast splitting off from the mainland due to incessant movement to the left, I am doomed to host millions of Kaleivornians. [X(]

Seriously though, most everybody thinks something should be done, but Kyoto is a bad joke. If it is applied evenly to stop pollution, then great. It looks more like social engineering to many-all around the world. To turn a blind eye to China and other "developing countries" is not right. Especially if this entails sending away what little industry is left here.

I'm ranting, must...stop...here...

Ok, back to screen resolutions.[:)]

OT, social engineering is the use of any political entity... we could even say that politicians (and politologues (eng sp?) are social engineers, whether they are conservative or progressive (note the semantics here [:'(]). Ok, political science is at this stage much more imperfect and... err... subjective [8|] than natural sciences, but a science it is or rather it has an ambition of being (the most important, eh?). So of course Kyoto is social engineering, but it would be just as much social engineering to decide not to adhere to it or to decide to just let things go - what some people think are - their "natural" ways. About this last point, does nature really imply man's inaction or is the action of man a part of nature? bah...
   sorry [:o]

On subject (because I must [;)]) a 17 inch lcd monitor is working fine for me with a 1280 x 1024 resolution.

ORIGINAL: Arjuna


So now that you yanks have got your President to listen,

You mean now that the liberal idiots have truly taken over our society?

How exactly did my personal comments about my personal difficulties with mixed measuring systems get turned into a "let's generalize about Americans and bash the USA" orgy?


I had hope this game formum could be free from this. [:-]

I should have known better![:@]