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ORIGINAL: timtom

We can only model one A/C type pr. sqd at a time in WitP. Logically that should be the majority A/C. Based on the evidence available to me (which, I'll admit, isn't conclusive), it would seem that the LB-30 doesn't fit this definiton in even a single case. IMO the LB-30 should be scrapped altogether while representing the airframes with an increase of the B-17/B-18 pool.

It doesn't help either that 6th BG operation exclusively in the CZ during the time it flew LB-30's.

ORIGINAL: wdolson

If the LB-30 was scrapped, it would free up a slot for something else.

Bill

ORIGINAL: wdolson

ORIGINAL: Reg
No No No!!! RAAF Beaufighter squadrons were raised, equipped and trained for the long range fighter (strafer) role. Though their aircraft were theoretically capable of torpedo strike, the squadrons were never issued with the weapons or trained in their use. (Ever wondered in the game why they are are classed as fighter/bomber rather than torpedo bomber like the Beaufort??) This was done (after a long hard fight) so the Beaufighter squadrons could conduct their historical missions.

If you can put up a convincing argument that RAF Torbeaus were used in the India/Burma areas, I'm sure you will get a sympathetic hearing for the creation of a new aircraft class as a torpedo bomber.

The RAF Beaufort squadrons that were sent to the CBI were trained for torpedo work. And most Beaufort squadrons converted to Beaufighters later in the war. No Beaufort dropped a torpedo in anger in the Far East because they never had any targets. They were only used in India and Burma and there were no shipping targets to attack by the time they got there.

I don't believe any land based RAF aircraft dropped a torpedo in anger in the Far East after the Indian Ocean raids of early 1942.

While there may have been torpedo trained RAF Beaufighter squadrons in India and Burma (I don't know if there were or not), they were never used. If they were in the game, it would take house rules to prevent them from being deployed in other areas where there are more shipping targets.

I was pointing out that the Beaufighters did have the torpedo equipment. I do not know one way of the other if the Far East Beaufighter squadrons had any torpedo training. The few times torpedoes were dropped by crews that weren't trained in that kind of attack, the results were dismal. The only drop I can think of that had any chance of success was the B-26 that dropped on the Rjuyo in the Aleutians in June 1942 and a wave carried the torpedo over the deck of the carrier. If the seas hadn't been so rough, the torpedo might have hit.

Bill

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Hmmm, according to the official RAF site, 22 Squadron moved to the Far East in 1942, where it used Beaufighters in anti-ship rocket attacks.

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Why would they bother carrying torpedoes if there were no targets worthy of them?

I know that Coastal Command strike wings used to split up their Beaufighters into purely torpedo- and rocket-armed aircraft when they went on their anti-shipping strikes. No idea if that applied elsewhere as well...

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Found the problems with Australia-class CAs and Leander-class CLs. Both lose their a/c capacity with upgrades, causing their float plane units to resize to size 0.

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

So when's the next update? [:D]

ORIGINAL: AlaskanWarrior

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Found the problems with Australia-class CAs and Leander-class CLs. Both lose their a/c capacity with upgrades, causing their float plane units to resize to size 0.

Again, this is not an error but actually reflected wartime refits that added additional AA and Electronics. British Cruisers that had catapults/aviation facilities removed(not comprehensive):

1941
Achilles: 1943-1944
Ajax: 1941
Arethusa: 1941
Galatea: 1940
Penelope: 1940
Sheffield: 1944
Glasgow: 6/44
Liverpool: 6/45
Birmingham; 4/43
Belfast: 8/45
Hobart: 8/43
Australia: 1944

Due to the limitations of the database some fudging had to be enacted.
Sources:

1 Raven, Alan, and John Roberts. British Cruisers of World War Two. Annapolis, Md: Naval Institute Press, 1980.

2 Whitley, M. J. Cruisers of World War Two: An Intrnational Encyclopedia. Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 1995.

3 Lenton, H. T., and J. J. Colledge. (British) Warships of World War II. London, UK: Ian Allen, 1964.

4 Campbell, John. Naval Weapons of World War Two. 1985. Annapolis, Md.: Naval Institute Press, 2002.

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar
Ok, fair enuff...but then the Walrus units should be removed...is that possible even ? Now they just remain onboard but resize to 0...and just basicly waste a slot..[:'(]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

ORIGINAL: AlaskanWarrior

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Found the problems with Australia-class CAs and Leander-class CLs. Both lose their a/c capacity with upgrades, causing their float plane units to resize to size 0.

Again, this is not an error but actually reflected wartime refits that added additional AA and Electronics. British Cruisers that had catapults/aviation facilities removed(not comprehensive):

1941
Achilles: 1943-1944
Ajax: 1941
Arethusa: 1941
Galatea: 1940
Penelope: 1940
Sheffield: 1944
Glasgow: 6/44
Liverpool: 6/45
Birmingham; 4/43
Belfast: 8/45
Hobart: 8/43
Australia: 1944

Due to the limitations of the database some fudging had to be enacted.
Sources:

1 Raven, Alan, and John Roberts. British Cruisers of World War Two. Annapolis, Md: Naval Institute Press, 1980.

2 Whitley, M. J. Cruisers of World War Two: An Intrnational Encyclopedia. Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 1995.

3 Lenton, H. T., and J. J. Colledge. (British) Warships of World War II. London, UK: Ian Allen, 1964.

4 Campbell, John. Naval Weapons of World War Two. 1985. Annapolis, Md.: Naval Institute Press, 2002.

Ok, fair enuff...but then the Walrus units should be removed...is that possible even ? Now they just remain onboard but resize to 0...and just basicly waste a slot..[:'(]

ORIGINAL: VSWG

Any idea about the ETA of the new version? Days? Weeks? I would wait until it is released before I start a new PBEM.

ORIGINAL: VSWG

Okay.

What about AVG's Anti-Zero bonus? IIRC it applies to some random fighter squadron at Pearl Harbor right now. I'd say it should either apply to AVG's 1st squadron OR AVG should be recombined in its old slot OR it should not apply to any air unit.

ORIGINAL: VSWG

Okay.

What about AVG's Anti-Zero bonus? IIRC it applies to some random fighter squadron at Pearl Harbor right now. I'd say it should either apply to AVG's 1st squadron OR AVG should be recombined in its old slot OR it should not apply to any air unit.