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ORIGINAL: Icedawg

Turret armor is not the issue.

Rate of fire is the issue. I know the 6 inchers have a high rate of fire, but when the Boise is being attacked by 10+ IJN ships and she is getting off 30 to 40 times the number of shots AS THE ENTIRE IJN TASK FORCE, either those gunners are on crystal meth or there is some kind of bug here.

you'd think that this CL that performs like the Yamato would draw some attention (especially since the Boise didn't have any kind of legendary performances to her credit).

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

How's this for the first attack of the Boise (occurred in the 3x3 AAR):

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41

Night Time Surface Combat, near Amboina at 40,74


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
SOC-3 Seagull: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk [:D]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

How's this for the first attack of the Boise (occurred in the 3x3 AAR):

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41

Night Time Surface Combat, near Amboina at 40,74


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
SOC-3 Seagull: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk [:D]

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

How's this for the first attack of the Boise (occurred in the 3x3 AAR):

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41

Night Time Surface Combat, near Amboina at 40,74


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
SOC-3 Seagull: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk [:D]

Reliving past glories are we?

Why don't you tell them about Marblehead also. [;)]

ORIGINAL: pbear

CL-40 Brooklyn
The Brooklyn class light cruisers were the US Navy’s first attempt at a "light cruiser" built under the terms of the London Treaty of 1930. This treaty banned the construction of 8" gun heavy cruisers, on which the US Navy had previously focused its efforts. Probably the most noticeable feature of the class is the gun layout, an unprecedented fifteen 6" guns in five turrets, three forward and two aft.

As the US Navy studied the feasibility of a 10,000 ton cruiser, the Brooklyn design started off from where the New Orleans class heavy cruisers left off. But the advent of Japan's Mogami class cruisers, which featured fifteen 6" guns, led to the requirement that Brooklyn carry at least as many. The distinctive three turrets forward, two aft configuration was unique among US Cruisers, but the Brooklyns shared this configuration with the Japanese Mogamis. The general outline of the gun mounts as undoubtely copied from the Japanese Takao class heavy cruisers.

The ships, with its 6" main gun, ended up as a totally revised design, being the source of all subsequent US cruiser designs up to the Des Moines class. The class was unique in different respects, as they were the first flushdeck cruisers, which was necessary because the ships were to receive a hangar in the stern, belowdecks.

The Brooklyn class had a number of differences between its member ships, amd the last two units -- St. Louis and Helena -- are treated as a separate class. The first seven ships had a highly different superstructure layout. The final two ships received twin mounts for their secondary armament and the later 127mm L/38, while the earlier ships kept their 127mm L/25 in open mounts.

The design of the Brooklyn-class light cruisers was validated through wargaming. The result was very sturdy ships that survived many kamikaze attacks during WWII. All of these ships except Savannah and Honolulu found their way into foreign navies after the end of the War. The only ship of this class lost in combat was the Phoenix during the Falklands Conflict in 1982, she had been sold to Argentina and renamed General Belgrano.


If I remember correctly the Brooklyn class light cruisers were designed to be used as shotguns thus smothering any target with 6" rounds. Also remember that the Japanesse viewed light cruisers as destroyer leader so they were not armed like US light crusiers.

ORIGINAL: Procrustes

Not in my game. [:(]