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As I recall the City that had the democratic convention in it had a huge riot, cant remember if that was Detroit or Chicago though. Chicago comes to mind cause of the Chicago 7 or what ever they were called.

That was Chicago, and the riot was locallized in the convention and surrounding areas. It was not anything like Watts, Newark, and Detroit. In Detroit, all told, about 20,000 State and Local Police, NAGs (National Guard) and 7 Bns. or 2 Brigades, one each from the 82nd AB and 101st AB/AM Divisions were all under Federal control and federal Martial law was declared. Then there were also about 50 tanks, mainly M41 Walker Bulldogs, M113 APCs, Jeeps with air and water-cooled Browing .30 cal. MGs, and armored cars and choppers. It was a mess.

Today, the two most dangerous cities to live in in the USA are #1 St. Louis, MO and #2 Detroit, MI. Interesting. We have 15% unemployment within the ciyt limits of Detroit, unemployed Police, Teachers, autoworkers, etc. etc. It's bad. Since our great patriotic corporations are producing so much overseas, especially consumer electronic goods in places like China, Malaysia, Taiwan, Costa ica, Singapore, etc. and then there is NAFTA, the rustbelt has been taking heavy economic hits since 1973. Michigan, Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Minnesotta and probably the St. Louis area in Missouri have been hit pretty hard in comparison to the rest of the USA.

Chris

Chris,

I don't remember the exact dates but I was assigned to a highly secured area of USAREUR Headquarters (actually worked in a "bank vault" type of room). At the time, the security checkpoints into the HDQTRS casern was not much, i.e., if you had the appropriate green USA license and the right decal, you were pretty much waved into the facility. The bomb was attached to an officer's car who worked in the same bldg. as me. IIRC, the bomb was detonated electronically somehow; and the officer and an enlisted guy were killed. The blast effect was something I will never forget. Not much left of the vehicle. The area where the car was parked ( the old German paving bricks)depressed down a foot or so. Lots of anti-Nam war protests at the time, particularly in Heidelberg. BTW, I volunteered for Nam, spent 6 days at the Oakland Army base before they decided to divert me to Germany. Typical Army! Yeah...having grown up in one of the "rustbelt" cities, I've seen some pretty crazy stuff on the streets but probably is the reason why I have also been able to avoid many bad situations in the past. Thx for the VFW mag reference...its hard to believe at times that its been 35 years ago.

Mike

Yeah, that was close for you. I save only a few of the VFW and other Veteran Organization magazines I get, and that issue is one of them.

A friend of mine was in Munich and about 100 yards or os give or take from the massacare of the Israeli athletes by the PLO or whomever did it.

Yeah, I remember the German paving bricks and cobblestones, we have those still in Detroit on some streets in the older parts of town.

I was in the Infantry, and also volunteered for Vietnam, and a few fellows from 1/39 Inf. did go. We had a memorial in our Bn. HQ for those members of 1/39, Paddy's Gang, that were KIA. The last big troop levy came down in the Summer of 1970, about 7 or 8 months before I got there.

During the 1973 Yom Kippur War, things almost went nuclear, and I knew a fellow from here that was in a Pershing I Missle Bn. at Heilbron, and they were one Defcon away from mounting the warheads and firing. My AT Pltn. sent 6 out of 12 TOW I AT Missile Systems to Israel, and everyone was on Red Alert. We moved our APCs to a valley and sat there buttoned-up waiting for the Soviet missle strike. The guy in the Pershing Bn. was in the field for 45-days. things were very tense, and no large scale troop manuevers were allowed in NATO and the Warsaw Pact during the time of the Yom Kippur War of October, 1973. I have known a couple Israeli Paratroopers that were engaged with the Syrians, particularily in that one village where there was dug-in Syrian Armor and Commandos, they were lucky to survive.

Glad you are here and also interested in the ACW, Chris

Today, the two most dangerous cities to live in in the USA are #1 St. Louis, MO and #2 Detroit, MI.

 
And what are your sources?  In truth, there's no way to determine what are the most dangerous cities.  This is just something manufactured to get money for grants, sell books, and get people to watch the news.  Any survey attempting to figure what is the best or worst of this or that is just what it says it is-- a survey.  It hardly means a thing, since surveys and other types of statistical information only mean what the publishers of the information want it to mean.  It's all about motive, and money drives most motives.
 
 
Alan

Souces are USA Crime Statistics, and during the World Series this year these statistics were quoted on national TV all across the USA.

If you want to go do a little research and you will find this info. Try the FBI and other Law Enforcement statistical doucuments, as they are easily accesible on the inet.

There is not any 'money involved' or alterior or ulterior or whatever motives in these very factual statistics.

Chris

ORIGINAL: Alan_Bernardo

Today, the two most dangerous cities to live in in the USA are #1 St. Louis, MO and #2 Detroit, MI.

And what are your sources?  In truth, there's no way to determine what are the most dangerous cities.  This is just something manufactured to get money for grants, sell books, and get people to watch the news.  Any survey attempting to figure what is the best or worst of this or that is just what it says it is-- a survey.  It hardly means a thing, since surveys and other types of statistical information only mean what the publishers of the information want it to mean.  It's all about motive, and money drives most motives.


Alan

BTW, Detroit proper has a 15% unemployment rate, including Teachers, Police, Firemen, Autoworkers, etc. since our patriotic corporations have moved so much of their production overseas, and NAFTA has not been so good to industry and commercial and private enterprises in Michigan and elsewhere in the old Rustbelt, the Midwest.

I guess you being in the metropolis of Amherst might insulate you from a few things.

Chris

Remember the kids game where one person would whisper something to the person next to them and so on around the room. You compare the message at the end to what the message was at the beginning. This thread (and the ETA one) reminds me of that somewhat...we started with Lee Marvin & Capt. Roo fightin' in the WW2 (or ETA on Patch release)...now were talkin' crime rates in cities (or building my next computer).

Awwww. It is funny isn't it?? [:D][:D][X(][8|]

Chris

yep [;)]

Did you know Soupy Sales was once a Drill Segeant??
 
Chris
 

So was Don Adams (= Maxwell Smart). (Well, not sure about the rank, but definitely a drill instructor.)

So was Don Adams (= Maxwell Smart). (Well, not sure about the rank, but definitely a drill instructor.)

Was he a Drill Instructor or a Drill Segeant??

And yes, I do recall hearing that he was one or the other. Forgot about him. Is it true??

Chris

PS: I was joking about Soupy Sales.[:'(]