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why after thousands of hours of play, East Front II Gold suddenly crashed yesterday?

fire 'your guy'.

He's screwed with your OS once too often.

When I loaded the new game and played it, the problems were too many to enjoy. The originals were left because I felt if there was a problem, then I had the fallback. Upon reading just an HOUR or so of forum questions/answers/"to be corrected in 1.03", I felt it was better to keep the older versions in case. More problems...more reading.
Obviously they must be removed. The game (the new JTCS) will be put in a XP by itself and the patch applied, though until 1.03 I don't see the point in playing. To show you I appreciate the advice-I'll give it another try but I don't think that has much to do with all the other issues.
I will continue on the older versions which never give me a problem. I never even had to apply a patch to the originals in any operating system yet (I don't run VISTA). I can put the older versions in my other XP's (or 95 or 98-still have both) and enjoy the game until the bugs are worked out in the newest version. It may take another several patches if Jason and crew are just discovering the loading issue with the trucks. New bugs will be found. I have been playing a long time and can wait for 1.03 or 04 or whatever.
Tomorrow or Monday I can enjoy my favorite game again (via the 2001 issue). Jason and company will get the game working (JTCS) at some point but I will be patient and await his email. I have done enough play testing on games in my life.
If your advice proves correct, I'll advise as honestly as I have in all these emails to the forum. The problems I have mentioned for the most part are not corrected at this time per the host of the forum. If the game crashes in the second battle of a Campaign game (or at all!), it's not fun to me. Looking for answers on forums is not fun to me. Others enjoy the interchange. Usually-I ask one or two questions and apply a patch and wow-a game works. Not in this case. Not yet but one hopes.
Thank you for your input. I will play test it alone and with the patch applied as discussed and advise.

How in hell is it his fault that the game has errors. They have nothing to do with him. My systems NEVER have problems. He built all of them. He's had to come to clean the fans once in two years. Wow-get on a forum and everyone is a God Damned expert.

Glad you have no problems. Not a help.

taken care of my systems for years

to me this says that he looks after your systems.

I'd say he doesn't do a good job of it. [:-]

I'll fire the guy who designed and built my systems that have no problems. Pick on someone else eh? Thought Aussies were cool. I'm just looking for constructive advice-apparently you have none.

Hopefully the problems will be resolved in the 1.03. If you remember Jason, please let me know when 1.03 comes out. The forum seems to be using more of my time than the game.

Well, the point I was trying to make is that I have managed to install all of the old versions, the new version and am able to play it WITHOUT problems - as have the majority of other people here. So is it the game or your system/guy. What is he having to do to help you install the game when all I had to do was download and click install. I have had no problems.

Guys, chill out, he said his guy will write and explain what he's done! All machines are not created equal, as we all can surely agree on, one thing for sure, the new game DOES NOT require you to uninstall your old games. As I stated before, I have a total of 4 Divided Ground (one is my Korean War Mod), 4 EF, 9 WF, and 2 RS installs of the old games on my comp, and now, since the intro of the JSGME swapper, only 1 install of the JTCS, and I swap out my mods!! The new cause NO probs with the old, the only prob I had was a download for the Beta testing group which was messing with the registry or something, got a 484 error, we got that squared away, you guys shouldn't have had anything happen like that though..

Tim, hang in there man, we'll get to the bottom of this, please make sure you supply system specs to us, as well as resolution size, etc. Sometimes it is really the dumbest little thing!!

I see you play promarily the campaigns, as do I, I will tell you from first hand knowledge though that the DCG's in EF particularly have been a problem from day one with the old versions, we have found the problems with them. They wouldn't always crash right away, and with certain formations it may never crash, but with Panzer formations in particular, it was just a matter of time until it would, it was an oob problem. The Beta team, with great help from Richard Simonitch, are addressing the problems with the DCG's and that should be squashed!!

When you apply the patches, you must make sure that each folder is applied to each game correctly with the 1.02b patch, did you ensure this I guess?

If you like, feel free to PM or private email me if your dis-satisfied with the forum traffic if you have any further questions, I will try to help if I can!!

Mike

I have many games and some commercial applications on my systems. Yes it's easy to unload and reload the game. SOME of the problems are a result (as my guy warned) of having the two different versions using the same files. Am I an expert on systems? No. Can I load a game. Yes.
I work full time with two charities and have commercial insurance clients to deal with. Do I have time to become an expert on all the problems that a video game has...OR PLAY TEST IT? NO. How many questions and problems do you see on this site guy? Way too many to make it fun for me. More than I have ever seen.
When you get down to it-if the game crashes because of a software problems from the manufacturer, IT'S NOT THE FAULT OF THE SYSTEM IS IT? THE PROBLEMS ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL MY OWN. If the game worked-would there be nearly 8,000 entries on this forum?
Who the hell has time for that? I am off this thing as soon as the old games are reinstalled. AGAIN-when you all are done doing the manufacturers job-I'll try the newer vesion again. For now-it's a GIANT WASTE OF TIME!

I will forward whatever 'my guy' finds. He has all the specs. Is it really gonna help you or others with the new JTCS? No.
Honestly-I really enjoyed the game until the new issue. It was not BETA tested and now there's this giant forum which is easily bigger than annual published Federal Budget. Your reply did not provide a private email and did not appear on my email.
There may be problems with the older game. Repeating of the sound effects (pop in and out-stops)-the one DC that does not load...no big deal. I still enjoyed the game.
No, I am not interested in the forum anymore. In fact I just want to get my older versions working again. I think we can accompish this without too much trouble. Problem solved. The new version is not worth the hassel to me any longer. Perhaps the powers in charge will take another road when producing a game for the market in future. They have lost my business, which in the end is the bottom line to any company. I am only one customer and there seems to be many loyal players who are not effected by the problems with the new issue. I don't know about you, but I am a wargamer-not a an employee of a gaming company.

[X(]...wow...uhhh...just wow.

Seriously, are you bi-polar or something?

correct.
I have EF II, WF and a copy of JTCS running on one machine.  No probs so far.

I also cannot confirm some of the other problems ppl seem to have. Although I had once the "cavalry unit firing to the end of time" effect.

If one expects a DCG Game to behave like a selfmade scenario hes on the wrong turf in my opinion.
Making you own LCG is the best solution to such complaints.

I have tried the engineers and boat stuff (rivercrossing), everything works out as it is supposed to for me.

I have stated that the forum is not interesting. Not the only customer upset from what I read. Thanks for your medical evaluation...I'll go pop some Prozac immediately. Where does your kid go to school?

of time. Not productive. Just a jab.
Thanks for the med evaluation. I'll go pop some Prozac right now! Where does your kid go to school?
By the way-FUCK YOU!

Okay, first, to actually try and be of some help, Tim, if you need to send another user on here an email, you can click on their user name.
Look in the lower left of the screen that comes up, and you should see an option to send that user a private email.

I guess I just don't understand a private user spending literally hundreds of dollars to have someone come over and install games for them. But that's just me. In no way am I saying you're not allowed to criticize the game, or anything like that...obviously, anybody is entitled to their opinion. However, some of your points are a few thousand miles off base. You simply assume that the fact the Campaign series forum is so big obviously means everyone has problems...you obviously haven't noticed that the forums for EVERY game (including one you mentioned awhile back in terms of an example of a stable remake, Steel Panthers : World at War) has a huge forum, and most of the posts are people sharing information, stories, etc. with fellow players of the game.

Also, 99% of the problems people have with games made by ANY company comes back to some sort of an issue with the interaction between the game and their specific system setup. THAT is why everyone is wondering if that's what is going on here. It's nothing personal, it's simply that that's the case the majority of the time.

As for my earlier post, it was intended (at least partially) in jest, although you do seem to often be lurching from one end of the spectrum to the other in 2 posts a few minutes apart (speaking of which, do you SLEEP? [:D]).

The boat thing was not an issue.
The engineer problem, the mounted cavalry problem and loading problems have not been corrected via Jason-they will be in 1.03. As stated-I will wait. The games will be all removed and reloaded in different systems. I'll wait for 1.03 and give it a try. Glad someone is enjoying both games without a problem.
Again though, how are your comments really relevant? The forum is like reading TMZ at this point-no time for that.

Someone else did. I do not play it. I do not play the other game mentioned though I own it.
Not all game forums are this big fella, but a few are. Usually I have no need as the patches work and we get all issues resolved in one day to get the game in playable form. Just never really have much use for them.
ONE post alone here hit the mark and explained what I was warned about-loading the new version in the same system as the old game. Many people are not experiencing that problem. Good, but that in no way helps to solve my problem. It's like hearing, "Well my shit works MF." Not in the least constructive.
I think I have stated that the problem will be solved in a few hours now about 5 times. MY experience with the old games was enjoyable. MY experience with the new one-not good.
Is it a crime or something to wait until issues important to me have been worked out by the game company (and players who have time and have made contributions that benefit us all)? I'm glad there is a forum. IT'S JUST NOT MY THING.
Thank you for the advice on the email situation. Copies of the responses go to my email, but that particular one did not. I assume you can contact the party directly from my email rather than posting.
After I get the old versions up again, the new version will be redownloaded onto an XP I rarely use with 1.02. In time the game will be corrected with other patches via Jason. AFTER THIS TODAY'S PROCESS IS COMPLETE, I'LL REMOVE MYSELF FROM THE FORUM. Thanks to all that have been a help and good luck to the others.
Tim41

damn.  Out of popcorn.

Do ou spend the majority of your life on this Chris. 524 posts?????Go get a girlfriend, a pet...something.