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ORIGINAL: marcuswatney

Pre-war was there really a railway bridge across the Niagara Falls?

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

All of Patrice's references to hex numbers seemed like a good excuse to show some updated screen shots of the USA map.

The hex numbers aren't shown here, but there is usually some geographical reference close to the resource icons.

The NE, including the Great Lakes.

ORIGINAL: marcuswatney

Steve, could all maps go in the maps thread please, and this thread be reserved for resources?

It would be very helpful if the maps were reorganised into their appropriate threads.  South Africa seems to have ended up in the America thread!  And I am still looking for a recent Central Africa...

ORIGINAL: Norman42

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

All of Patrice's references to hex numbers seemed like a good excuse to show some updated screen shots of the USA map.

The hex numbers aren't shown here, but there is usually some geographical reference close to the resource icons.

The NE, including the Great Lakes.

First time post, long time (has it really been 4 years?) reader of this forum, and 20 year WiF player. Great work on everything involved in MWiF so far, I've been waiting for this game for...well, 20 years.

With regards to the 'showing the resources' issue, I think it is a bit of information overkill since the information is irrelevant to gameplay. I think it should only be shown on a hex fly-out data panel or something, or *only* visible at zoom 8 (if someone cares enough to wonder about the resource present they can zoom in for data).

Having lived in Canada for some time, I can throw out some information on the various resources.


1. Thetford - Mainly known for its huge Asbestos mines, this region also has extensive dairy and livestock farming.

2. Sudbury - One of the worlds largest Nickel mines is in Sudbury (The city sign is a massive 11 ton model of our favorite 5-cent coin, hence its nickname Nickel City) and during WW2 it supplied nearly 30% of all of Britain's Nickel needs.

3. Resource near Fort William - My former hometown so I know it well. It is now known as Thunder Bay, formerly the twin cities of Fort William and Port Arthur. It was mentioned in the north america map thread as a potential N.A. additional city. In my opinion it really should be a city, over 100000pop in the combined twin cities(85k official plus well over 20000 in temporary labor workers and overseas shippers during the war) in the 40s, and the center of industry and transport(major rail yards and junctions) between Winnipeg and Toronto. It was both the main export port for 75% of ALL Canadian grain, with the 3 largest grain elevators in the world from 1933 til 1965, that went to Europe(via the St Lawrence Seaway), and it was also the source of 30% of all paper mill products and lumber used by the west during the war (5 large paper/lumber mills including the 2 largest in the world in 1943). In addition, 220 Hawker Hurricaines and 300+ Douglas and Curtiss torpedo and dive bombers were built there on license in the Canadian Car Foundry. As the major transportation crossroads, the main military armory of the area, and the hub of all North Ontario commerce I think it rates a city in an area of Canada on map that is supply starved currently. The resource to the northwest of Fort William would represent extensive lumber operations and possibly the Atikokan Iron/Copper mines. One last nitpick. Fort William should be one hex east (on the coast of Lake Superior, where the rail line bends up north eastwards).

4. Pembroke - Some lumber operations and magnesium mines in this region. Really, this resource should be moved 1hex east and 1 hex northeast, to Mont Laurier on the rail spur heading northwest of Montreal. This is the Noranda-Val D'Or region, which are Canada's largest mines of Copper, Zinc, and Gold. By far Noranda (Mont Laurent) exceeds Pembroke as a resource site, as it is one of the largest mining complexes in the world.

5. Western Canada resource - This would represent an amalgamation of all of Alberta's Livestock, Grain, and Oil production. As these sites were spread out across the province no single location is any better.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Patrice, I am not sure why you chose to label Charlestown West Virginia.

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Patrice, I am not sure why you chose to label Charlestown West Virginia.

Because it is the capital of the State.
I placed all States' capitals on the map, as well as some other famous cities.
Charlestown is both, famous and a capital of State.

ORIGINAL: Norman42


Some Soviet resources:

Karaganda USSR = Coal Fields
Kerch USSR = Iron Ore
Kursk USSR = Iron Ore/Phosphates
Magnitogorsk USSR = (surprise) Iron Ore
Stalinsk USSR = Coal Fields

Some Balkans:

Greece = Bauxite(Aluminim)
Bulgaria = Lead/Zinc
Forest Yugoslavia = Copper
Mountain Yugoslavia = Chromium
Hungary = Bauxite(Aluminum)
Turkey = Chromium (both resources, though the eastern one really should be 2 hexes further east)



I dont have the above map coordinates on my maps so can't help on the un-named clear hex ones in USSR.

ORIGINAL: marcuswatney

South Africa: South Africa is famous for diamonds and gold.  Diamonds are mined in both areas marked with a resource symbol, but gold is only mined near the northern one (near Pretoria).  From its location, it would seem likely that the southern resource is supposed to represent the Kimberley diamond mine.

Rather than have both resource hexes labelled 'diamonds', I suggest the north be 'gold' and the south be 'diamonds'.  This would mean deleting Premier Mine (which anyway is 40km east of Pretoria).

ORIGINAL: Norman42
With regards to the 'showing the resources' issue, I think it is a bit of information overkill since the information is irrelevant to gameplay. I think it should only be shown on a hex fly-out data panel or something, or *only* visible at zoom 8 (if someone cares enough to wonder about the resource present they can zoom in for data).

ORIGINAL: Norman42
1. Thetford - Mainly known for its huge Asbestos mines, this region also has extensive dairy and livestock farming.

2. Sudbury - One of the worlds largest Nickel mines is in Sudbury (The city sign is a massive 11 ton model of our favorite 5-cent coin, hence its nickname Nickel City) and during WW2 it supplied nearly 30% of all of Britain's Nickel needs.

3. Resource near Fort William - My former hometown so I know it well. It is now known as Thunder Bay, formerly the twin cities of Fort William and Port Arthur. It was mentioned in the north america map thread as a potential N.A. additional city. In my opinion it really should be a city, over 100000pop in the combined twin cities(85k official plus well over 20000 in temporary labor workers and overseas shippers during the war) in the 40s, and the center of industry and transport(major rail yards and junctions) between Winnipeg and Toronto.

It was both the main export port for 75% of ALL Canadian grain, with the 3 largest grain elevators in the world from 1933 til 1965, that went to Europe(via the St Lawrence Seaway), and it was also the source of 30% of all paper mill products and lumber used by the west during the war (5 large paper/lumber mills including the 2 largest in the world in 1943). In addition, 220 Hawker Hurricaines and 300+ Douglas and Curtiss torpedo and dive bombers were built there on license in the Canadian Car Foundry. As the major transportation crossroads, the main military armory of the area, and the hub of all North Ontario commerce I think it rates a city in an area of Canada on map that is supply starved currently.

The resource to the northwest of Fort William would represent extensive lumber operations and possibly the Atikokan Iron/Copper mines.

One last nitpick. Fort William should be one hex east (on the coast of Lake Superior, where the rail line bends up north eastwards).

4. Pembroke - Some lumber operations and magnesium mines in this region. Really, this resource should be moved 1hex east and 1 hex northeast, to Mont Laurier on the rail spur heading northwest of Montreal. This is the Noranda-Val D'Or region, which are Canada's largest mines of Copper, Zinc, and Gold. By far Noranda (Mont Laurent) exceeds Pembroke as a resource site, as it is one of the largest mining complexes in the world.

5. Western Canada resource - This would represent an amalgamation of all of Alberta's Livestock, Grain, and Oil production. As these sites were spread out across the province no single location is any better.