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RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:53 pm
by Norman42
4) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities with the addiition of +1 for each factory in the city/hex.

Would be my vote for the starting point of playtesting this.

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:41 pm
by peskpesk
ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

There are 4 proposals here. let's let each person have 4 votes that they can allocate however they like. So if two of them appeal to you, you can cast 2 votes for each of them. But if one is your overwhelming favorite, cast all 4 of your votes for that one.

To repeat, the choices for the US Entry roll when Japan occupies a Chinese city are:
1) US Entry roll is 4 for the first 2 cities taken, 3 for the next 2 cities, and then 2 for the remaining cities.
2) US entry rol is 4 but only applies to the original (not additional) Chinese cities.
3) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities.
4) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities with the addiition of +1 for each factory in the city/hex.

#4 -> 4 votes.

I prefer 4 over 1 primarily because you do not have to remember how many cities already captured. And of course playtesting is required but it has to start somewhere. I also doubt there can be enough testing on this before release.

-Orm

4 votes to No. 4.

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:47 pm
by Zorachus99
I prefer option #3. 
 
Simplicity

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:22 pm
by composer99
2 votes each for #3 and #4.

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:48 pm
by meisterchow
1 vote for #3 and 3 votes for #4

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:46 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
I'll leave the voting open for a couple more days.

Right now we have (including my 4 for #4):

#1 - 5 votes
#2 - 4 votes
#3 - 7 votes
#4 - 32 votes

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:28 pm
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

I'll leave the voting open for a couple more days.

Right now we have (including my 4 for #4):

#1 - 5 votes
#2 - 4 votes
#3 - 7 votes
#4 - 32 votes
To repeat, the choices for the US Entry roll when Japan occupies a Chinese city are:
1) US Entry roll is 4 for the first 2 cities taken, 3 for the next 2 cities, and then 2 for the remaining cities.
2) US entry rol is 4 but only applies to the original (not additional) Chinese cities.
3) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities.
4) US Entry roll is 2 for all Chinese cities with the addiition of +1 for each factory in the city/hex.

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:33 pm
by YohanTM2
3 votes for #3
1 vote for #4

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:50 pm
by Mr. Yuck
Could options 3+4 be combined as an if-then? If not, 2 votes for each.

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:29 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Mr. Yuck

Could options 3+4 be combined as an if-then? If not, 2 votes for each.
I prefer to not have optional rules within optional rules. I've done it, but only in a couple of places.

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:05 am
by BallyJ
My vote is 4 votes for number (2)

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:08 pm
by Edfactor
My vote is
3 votes for #3
1 vote for #4
and 1 vote for the hanging piece of chad.

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:32 pm
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: Edfactor
and 1 vote for the hanging piece of chad.
What is the hanging piece of chad ?

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:04 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Froonp
ORIGINAL: Edfactor
and 1 vote for the hanging piece of chad.
What is the hanging piece of chad ?
When George W. Bush was awarded the Presidency by the Supreme Court in 2000, it was because of their decision about whether the majority of voters in Florida voted for George or Al (Gore). There is television footage of people in Flroida reviewing some of the individual ballots (holding them up to the light, trying to see through the ballots), which used punched cards. A hanging piece of chad is the part of the ballot that was punched out but did not fall off the card. One of the questions of those days was whether a ballot counted if the chad was not completely detached from the card.[&:]

This also lead to several jokes about about a fictional porn star called Chad.[;)]

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:06 pm
by cockney
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ORIGINAL: Edfactor
and 1 vote for the hanging piece of chad.
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What is the hanging piece of chad ? [align=right]
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what is Floridian election counting?

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:11 pm
by YohanTM2
Please don't go down this road, we all lived it in North America. Or take it OT to the general forum. [:D]
ORIGINAL: cockney

[blockquote]quote:

ORIGINAL: Edfactor
and 1 vote for the hanging piece of chad.
[/blockquote]

What is the hanging piece of chad ? [align=right]
[/align] 
what is Floridian election counting?

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:48 pm
by cockney
back to topic.
 
I would say that in regards to the four options
 
I would vote for No 4

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:52 am
by Jagdtiger14
First of all...I hope you...Mr. OKeets are a better programer than political scientist. I love WiF and hope this computer game comes to fruition...maybe you are doing your programing job very well and dont have time to spend on current events. To set the record straight on the 2000 election...it was Al Gore who tried to steal the election. The vote count was very close...Al Gore tried to cherry pick three heavily Democrat counties here in south Florida to see if he could mine for enough votes to over-turn the Florida election results, get the Florida electoral votes, and make himself president. Those counties (with elected Democrat Supervisor of Elections and their Democrat staff) went through election ballots that were the old computer punch card system type where the voter takes a punch card pen to punch out a perferated rectangular hole...the hole is marked by the voter selecting their choice by putting the pen in the hole besides their candidate. Some of these cards were punched too often, and many still had the perferated rectangle still hanging. it was a spectacle to see the staff and elected officials take the cards, look at each one and try to decide what the voters intent was. Months after this crazy spectacle newspapers (New York Times, St. Pete Times, and just about every liberal media) went through all the votes in these counties on their own time and dime and came to the conclusion that George W Bush won Florida. Period. And that is without looking for more votes in heavily Republican counties. Some leftists still cant get over it. I know Hawaii is a leftist state, but Mr. OKeets...I suggest you stop wasting your precious time on something you either no little about, or cant help yourself but to spew propaganda. Stick to what you know best, and lets get this product out for Christmas or whatever new date you have come up with. Get to work.

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:30 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

First of all...I hope you...Mr. OKeets are a better programer than political scientist. I love WiF and hope this computer game comes to fruition...maybe you are doing your programing job very well and dont have time to spend on current events. To set the record straight on the 2000 election...it was Al Gore who tried to steal the election. The vote count was very close...Al Gore tried to cherry pick three heavily Democrat counties here in south Florida to see if he could mine for enough votes to over-turn the Florida election results, get the Florida electoral votes, and make himself president. Those counties (with elected Democrat Supervisor of Elections and their Democrat staff) went through election ballots that were the old computer punch card system type where the voter takes a punch card pen to punch out a perferated rectangular hole...the hole is marked by the voter selecting their choice by putting the pen in the hole besides their candidate. Some of these cards were punched too often, and many still had the perferated rectangle still hanging. it was a spectacle to see the staff and elected officials take the cards, look at each one and try to decide what the voters intent was. Months after this crazy spectacle newspapers (New York Times, St. Pete Times, and just about every liberal media) went through all the votes in these counties on their own time and dime and came to the conclusion that George W Bush won Florida. Period. And that is without looking for more votes in heavily Republican counties. Some leftists still cant get over it. I know Hawaii is a leftist state, but Mr. OKeets...I suggest you stop wasting your precious time on something you either no little about, or cant help yourself but to spew propaganda. Stick to what you know best, and lets get this product out for Christmas or whatever new date you have come up with. Get to work.
No comment.

RE: Additional Chinese cities option

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:05 am
by BallyJ
ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

First of all...I hope you...Mr. OKeets are a better programer than political scientist. I love WiF and hope this computer game comes to fruition...maybe you are doing your programing job very well and dont have time to spend on current events. To set the record straight on the 2000 election...it was Al Gore who tried to steal the election. The vote count was very close...Al Gore tried to cherry pick three heavily Democrat counties here in south Florida to see if he could mine for enough votes to over-turn the Florida election results, get the Florida electoral votes, and make himself president. Those counties (with elected Democrat Supervisor of Elections and their Democrat staff) went through election ballots that were the old computer punch card system type where the voter takes a punch card pen to punch out a perferated rectangular hole...the hole is marked by the voter selecting their choice by putting the pen in the hole besides their candidate. Some of these cards were punched too often, and many still had the perferated rectangle still hanging. it was a spectacle to see the staff and elected officials take the cards, look at each one and try to decide what the voters intent was. Months after this crazy spectacle newspapers (New York Times, St. Pete Times, and just about every liberal media) went through all the votes in these counties on their own time and dime and came to the conclusion that George W Bush won Florida. Period. And that is without looking for more votes in heavily Republican counties. Some leftists still cant get over it. I know Hawaii is a leftist state, but Mr. OKeets...I suggest you stop wasting your precious time on something you either no little about, or cant help yourself but to spew propaganda. Stick to what you know best, and lets get this product out for Christmas or whatever new date you have come up with. Get to work.
What an over reaction to a harmless post!!!!Get over it.