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RE: What's Fixed?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:20 pm
by Dili
And yes there are many more than 8 of these four flavors in AE, though many of those that were begun or planned were not finished historically. The "Shinyo" suicide boats taking precedence.

Okay, i tought when you said "precedence" your were talking about coding and that it was in game. My mistake.
Btw looking at what italians did to HMS York an heavy cruiser a suicide boat could be a success(italian MTM http://www.internethobbies.com/it1mtmbaitat.html the pilot jumped before the attack so it wasn't technically a suicide).

RE: What's Fixed?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:36 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: Splinterhead

ORIGINAL: mdiehl
Wasn't it originally a biplane design?


No. The F4F wildcat was originally a biplane design (the Grumman F3F1)...


That's incorrect. The F3F-1 was the fighter that the F4F-1 biplane and the F2A were in competition to replace.

Wow, look... Diehl was wrong... AGAIN.

RE: What's Fixed?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:48 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: Dili
And yes there are many more than 8 of these four flavors in AE, though many of those that were begun or planned were not finished historically. The "Shinyo" suicide boats taking precedence.

Okay, i tought when you said "precedence" your were talking about coding and that it was in game. My mistake.
Btw looking at what italians did to HMS York an heavy cruiser a suicide boat could be a success(italian MTM http://www.internethobbies.com/it1mtmbaitat.html the pilot jumped before the attack so it wasn't technically a suicide).

Well, yeah... But those were Decima Mas, AFAIK, not barely trained speed boat pilots on a one way ticket.

We had to draw the line somewhere.

RE: What's Fixed?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:50 pm
by Dili
Fine. Yes it was Decima Mas guys.

RE: What's Fixed?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:31 pm
by jwilkerson
BTW Yammy is correct that the Kamikaze (air ones that is) will not attack the land targets in 1.8.0.7 ... this is the patch that will come out in conjunction with the AE release.

And the Sinyo's ARE in the AE. Just not all of them.
[:)]

RE: What's Fixed?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:57 pm
by mdiehl
Oh look, Terminus the Troll hangs himself again.

The XF4F-1 was a request from the USN for an improved version of the F3 (which was, in turn, an improved version of the Grumman F2F). The Brewster XF2A-1 was a competitor for the F3's replacement and was first out of the block with a monoplane navy fighter. It's initial performance was so good that the navy cancelled the request for a prototyep XF4F-1 biplane before the designs were complete on paper.

Cancellation of the nonexistent XF4F-1 led Grumman to submit a new design, the G-18, which the navy ordered in prototype as the XF4F-2, in July 1936. As with all a.c. of the day, it strongly resembled the initial concepts of the XF4F-1, which in turn very strongly resembled the F3. But in the redesign the removal of two wings, repositioning monoplane to mid-fuselage, altered armament layout, and, well, pretty much altered everything.

About all the XF4F-2 had in common with the XF4F1 were "eXperimental prototype" "Fighter" and "Grumman."

I'd have though by now, Terminus, that you've been embarressed often enough by your mouth to avoid speaking when you have no clue whereof you speak.