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RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:26 pm
by Jevhaddah_Slitherine
Does anyone here use Vista 32/64 bit for Video Editing, Sound Creation, DvD Authoring and 2D/3D modeling and rendering?  If so are there any problems with rendering, sound issues etc? 

I am about to upgrade my OS to a 64Bit flavour and may consider DUal booting if its possible.

And as this is Matrix site are there any games that have problems with Vista [8D]

Cheers
Jev



RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:29 pm
by Stridor
For all those who are glad they waited ...

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/11/10/46TC-windows-7_5.html

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:35 pm
by invernomuto
"Measured by runtime specs and performance benchmarks, Windows 7 M3 looks like Vista, and it runs like Vista. Welcome to Windows Vista R2!"LOL!

I have Vista on my new laptop. I agree with PoE, Vista is essentialy an XP with a fancy GUI. And I have to understand how to sort elements in the Start->Programs menu yet!



RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:02 pm
by Jeffrey H.
ORIGINAL: Gem35

If it isnt broke don't fix it.

Which is why I want to stick with XP.


RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:11 pm
by Marc von Martial
ORIGINAL: Stridor

For all those who are glad they waited ...

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/11/10/46TC-windows-7_5.html


What's the purpose of that article other then generating some traffic to the site it is posted on? How can anybody that takes his "reviewing" seriously come up with a "benchmark" at the current development state of "Windows 7".

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:28 pm
by Perturabo
ORIGINAL: Slick Wilhelm

We could debate the relative merits or demerits of each Microsoft OS until the cows come home. But until another OS supports gaming(software AND hardware) as well as Windows does(or does not, as the case may be), then we're going to be using Microsoft OS's for some time.
Or rather until games and hardware will be made for another OS[:'(].
ORIGINAL: MacDuff

Many of my friends are going over to Linux, as well as downloading the free (yes free) office suite from OpenOffice.org (from Open Source which, I believe, was started by Steve Jobs). These are guys who have a serious dislike for MS anything. I use openoffice and its much more stable than MS Word. Also, the data is transferable.
Open Office is a slow, bloated cow.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:29 pm
by Banquet
ORIGINAL: Jevhaddah

Does anyone here use Vista 32/64 bit for Video Editing, Sound Creation, DvD Authoring and 2D/3D modeling and rendering?  If so are there any problems with rendering, sound issues etc? 

I use Vegas 7 on Vista home premium (and XP) for video editing and have had no problems.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:03 pm
by Phatguy
ORIGINAL: Perturabo
ORIGINAL: Slick Wilhelm

We could debate the relative merits or demerits of each Microsoft OS until the cows come home. But until another OS supports gaming(software AND hardware) as well as Windows does(or does not, as the case may be), then we're going to be using Microsoft OS's for some time.
Or rather until games and hardware will be made for another OS[:'(].
ORIGINAL: MacDuff

Many of my friends are going over to Linux, as well as downloading the free (yes free) office suite from OpenOffice.org (from Open Source which, I believe, was started by Steve Jobs). These are guys who have a serious dislike for MS anything. I use openoffice and its much more stable than MS Word. Also, the data is transferable.
Open Office is a slow, bloated cow.


Funny, mine zips along fine.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:20 pm
by 06 Maestro
ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

Vista is a piece of crap. Without actually doing anything on my system, it grabs no less than 900MB (or there abouts) of my 2GB.

Unfortunately some people (myself included) had no option when I bought my laptop and it's infected with it. Thx Microsoft for making my laptop as useful as a Betamax video player!

Once bitten....

[:D][:D] I'm glad I didn't have to deal with it. I bought my kids desktops a month before Vista was coming online. I had 2 free "upgrades" to utilize-never felt the urge.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:36 pm
by Perturabo
ORIGINAL: apathetic lurker

ORIGINAL: Perturabo
ORIGINAL: MacDuff

Many of my friends are going over to Linux, as well as downloading the free (yes free) office suite from OpenOffice.org (from Open Source which, I believe, was started by Steve Jobs). These are guys who have a serious dislike for MS anything. I use openoffice and its much more stable than MS Word. Also, the data is transferable.
Open Office is a slow, bloated cow.


Funny, mine zips along fine.
On what comp?
Microsoft Office was fast on a comp with Pentium 75 and 16MB of ram. Open Office is slow on a comp Athlon 2000 with 256MB of ram.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:52 pm
by Phatguy
E8400 3.00 with 2gb ram vista 32

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:15 pm
by Stridor
ORIGINAL: Marc von Martial

ORIGINAL: Stridor

For all those who are glad they waited ...

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/11/10/46TC-windows-7_5.html


What's the purpose of that article other then generating some traffic to the site it is posted on? How can anybody that takes his "reviewing" seriously come up with a "benchmark" at the current development state of "Windows 7".

Marc,

Relax.

I have never dissed vista. I run 64 on modern hardware with no problems, so I am not a vista basher per se.

My post was more directed to those who somehow think that all their percieved issues with vista will be fixed in 7. Nowhere in the article did RC say that the comparison results were definitive, clearly. However he pointed out in several places where 7 walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck.

Early 2010 is not far away now ...

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:22 pm
by Gem35
ORIGINAL: hadberz

I agree that Vista is crap on old computers, but it works great on new computers. IMO it was/is priced way to high. 
You can buy your flavor of Vista from Newegg starting at $90.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:22 pm
by Arctic Blast
Never personally had any issues at all with my Vista machine. I think a lot of the issues people did have were regarding throwing it on to a machine that couldn't run it well at all. Part of the blame falls on MS for not better publicizing the requirements, but companies like Dell and Compaq were desperate to sell piece of crap PCs, so they were throwing 'Ready for Vista' tags on machines that weren't even close to meeting requirements.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:27 pm
by NefariousKoel
ORIGINAL: Jevhaddah

Does anyone here use Vista 32/64 bit for Video Editing, Sound Creation, DvD Authoring and 2D/3D modeling and rendering?  If so are there any problems with rendering, sound issues etc? 

I am about to upgrade my OS to a 64Bit flavour and may consider DUal booting if its possible.

And as this is Matrix site are there any games that have problems with Vista [8D]

Cheers
Jev



If you plan on dual-booting Vista and XP, just grab VistaBootPro. It's freeware and relatively easy to use.

I've seen mention here of onboard sound issues but I've not had any. *shrug*

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:30 pm
by NefariousKoel
ORIGINAL: Arctic Blast

Never personally had any issues at all with my Vista machine. I think a lot of the issues people did have were regarding throwing it on to a machine that couldn't run it well at all. Part of the blame falls on MS for not better publicizing the requirements, but companies like Dell and Compaq were desperate to sell piece of crap PCs, so they were throwing 'Ready for Vista' tags on machines that weren't even close to meeting requirements.

The same happened with XP. It required at least 256MB of RAM to run and even then it ran like crap. Many systems the prefab manufacturers were selling before XP had around 64MB installed and when they first started selling XP machines, they only put 128MB in them. I still get a few of those old PCs in for repair that have only 128MB from back in 2001. Horrible performance.

I waited for my requisite year before buying Vista, along with parts for a new machine, and it's been just peachy.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:03 am
by Prince of Eckmühl
ORIGINAL: NefariousKoel

If you plan on dual-booting Vista and XP, just grab VistaBootPro. It's freeware and relatively easy to use.

What are you talking about? No one has to use a 3rd-party utility to do that. All you have to do is partition the HDD, install XP to one partition, and then install Vista to another. Afterwards, when the system boots, you're asked which OS you want to initialize, XP or Vista. That's all there is to it.

PoE (aka ivanmoe)

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:03 am
by NefariousKoel
ORIGINAL: Prince of Eckmühl
ORIGINAL: NefariousKoel

If you plan on dual-booting Vista and XP, just grab VistaBootPro. It's freeware and relatively easy to use.

What are you talking about? No one has to use a 3rd-party utility to do that. All you have to do is partition the HDD, install XP to one partition, and then install Vista to another. Afterwards, when the system boots, you're asked which OS you want to initialize, XP or Vista. That's all there is to it.

PoE (aka ivanmoe)


No, Vista will not let XP boot without tinkering. The boot manager isn't like the one in XP. That program makes it much easier to deal with.

Here's an example of a how-to:
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_vist ... _guide.htm
When the system reboots it won’t bring up a boot menu. Although XP recognises the Vista partition it doesn’t recognise Vista itself.

The Windows XP bootloader gets installed to the MBR and Vista can no longer boot.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:45 am
by EUBanana
ORIGINAL: Gem35
You also should not run it without at least 4 GB of RAM unless you are using basic or something.
Stop with the "it sux" and "it's crap" already.[:-]

I think you managed to contradict yourself here... 900 megs for the OS alone is ridiculous.

RE: Vista Dead?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:56 am
by Banquet
ORIGINAL: EUBanana

ORIGINAL: Gem35
You also should not run it without at least 4 GB of RAM unless you are using basic or something.
Stop with the "it sux" and "it's crap" already.[:-]

I think you managed to contradict yourself here... 900 megs for the OS alone is ridiculous.

If 900 meg of RAM is being used there must be a load of bloatware on that computer, or it must be running background apps at the time of checking. Mine is on 655 meg used at the moment and it wouldn't be hard to reduce that to under 600 if I chose to get rid of some taskbar apps and make the computer more gaming oriented.