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Hi,
I'm interested in digital and Digital+Physical. For me (about your second question) it would depend alot on WHEN is the digital avaible. I'd rather get Digital+physical but since I have a week off next week... I guess I could play that game alot! If it's avaible by early next week I'd be willing to buy only digital (I have done this before anyway, i'd just rather have a physical copy.)

So if you can get Digital only as soon as possible out I'd be REALLY happy! If I decide to wait for physical to... then no problem... Don't keep this gem away from these (*points to all the OTHER geek in the room) guys to long... They could get aggresive

CHEERS

Digital+Physical is the only way I buy, so I will wait till both are available.

I don't understand the problem. It seems that the people waiting for a physical copy will have to wait the same amount of time depsite the fact that a digital is released early or not.

So why not release a digital now and make the early adapters happy?

A fighter who hits first and hits hard usually wins the fight. Why not create a buzz with the DDL before the CD's are shipped? If it is a solid title, the anticipation will only grow for those waiting for ETW and those on the fence.

Although,if you cannot beat them to the punch it might just be better to hold the release until well after the smoke clears from the ETW release and pick up those disenfranchised with that game.

Of course, the better way is to somehow do the dl and ship the game later to those that want both. But you said it cannot be done etc..

my 2 cents

mo reb

ORIGINAL: jjax

I don't understand the problem. It seems that the people waiting for a physical copy will have to wait the same amount of time depsite the fact that a digital is released early or not.

So why not release a digital now and make the early adapters happy?

I agree. So long as releasing the 'digital only' option early doesn't delay the physical option I can't see a problem. People waiting for the physical release won't have to wait any longer than they would have. I suppose they will have to see posts on the forum from people who are playing the game. That might make them mad! But equally it could be a good chance for them to get a sense of how the game plays before they get the game themselves.

Getting the game released in some form before Empire could be beneficial to Matrix as some people might delay purchase to play Empire. In the long term I imagine people who were going to buy either game will do so anyway.

For me personally, I would buy the digital only version regardless.. and won't be buying Empire.

I plan on buying both ETW and COG:EE... so the sooner either of them comes out the better. [:D]  I'm bored and need a game last week!
 

I'll wait for the physical + digital, as I really want the paper manual, although release of the digital only sounds like a good idea. Just be sure to make it crystal clear that you can't upgrade the digital to physical later.

Bill

What was that Forrest said about getting there first?

ORIGINAL: Randomizer

I intend to wait for both digital + physical as well and understand that it will be ready when it is ready.  Am optimistic that CoG-EE will avoid the issues all too often seen with games released prematurely.

Point appreciated, but I don't think it should be a concern here. As of now, there are no known CTD issues (nor other major bugs, for that matter). Of course, our testing team has never been much larger than ten or so testers at any one time, so there is always the possibility that there will be problems that simply weren't detected for that reason, but these problems probably wouldn't be caught if we spent another week or month testing (especially problems that are specific to certain OS types and configurations). So, while there is the chance that problems will be discovered upon release, there are no known problems that we would be ignoring in order to rush the game out. Plus the manual appears to be just about ready (i.e., formatted), our last video tutorial was finished yesterday, and the in-game help is only lacking a few screenshots. (The major thing we're missing is promo videos, but it seems like there are enough of you out there who want the game even without needing to see these, so the release probably shouldn't be delayed just because of them.) So while there are a few things we would like to add or change -- which can be done easily through a patch -- this certainly wouldn't be a premature release.

Gil: why not release the digital copy now and for those that want the physical should get a discount price after verifying that they purchased the digital copy.   Worse case scenario, you guys can give those wanting the discount associated with purchasing both as a gift card for the difference for future matrix games.  

ORIGINAL: general_solomon
Gil: why not release the digital copy now and for those that want the physical should get a discount price after verifying that they purchased the digital copy.   Worse case scenario, you guys can give those wanting the discount associated with purchasing both as a gift card for the difference for future matrix games.  

Unfortunately, our store simply can't handle that. Much-requested feature, haven't been able to get DR to implement the technology for it yet.

Empire: Total War vs Crown of Glory:Emperor's Edition?

I'll get which ever one is available first. If that doesn't satisfy my Napoleonic thirst I'll buy the other at a later date.

Digital is all I'd be wanting but I'm pretty sure the boxed version of ETW hits the streets here in Australia next week so I'm guessing that is where my 'hard-earned' will be going - at least in the short term.

I pretty much only buy digital download games now days, so the sooner CoGEE is out the happier I'll be

I'm with the asynchronous crowd.
Get it out.

I would exclusively buy digital if you guys offered the same unlimited downloads that Steam/Gamer's Gate/Impulse offered.  In my opinion that's the only 'acceptable' way to sell a non-physical product.

Otherwise I'm much more inclined to go with a physical/download version in order to protect my 'investment'.

ORIGINAL: Fintilgin

I would exclusively buy digital if you guys offered the same unlimited downloads that Steam/Gamer's Gate/Impulse offered. In my opinion that's the only 'acceptable' way to sell a non-physical product.

Otherwise I'm much more inclined to go with a physical/download version in order to protect my 'investment'.

You can "protect your investment" by burning the download to a CD, or copying the game to some external drive. The value of a physical copy comes in the extras you get; such as a printed manual.

Thanks for your input everyone.

We've decided to push for an online (digital) release ASAP. Just to be clear about this, we are not rushing the game development itself in order to do this, but we are rushing the post-development production a bit, which is why the physical options will not be available immediately at release and why we'll all be working late hours for the next few days. Here's how it will unfold:

1. Online release of Crown of Glory: Emperor's Edition will happen _either_ Friday or Monday, depending on if we hit any snags in the digital release process.

2. Physical release of Crown of Glory: Emperor's Edition will happen 4-5 days after that, though it will be 3-4 more weeks after that before the printed manuals are in the store and physical copies are shipping out. If you want a printed manual, please wait until the physical options show up and then order the "Digital + Physical" option so that you have the download while you wait for the boxed copy with the printed manual.

3. We cannot upgrade a digital download only sale to a digital + physical sale. If you want the printed manual please wait for the physical options to show up in the store. The early release will be only for the digital download.

We'll post the above info again in a pinned FAQ thread before the release and also make it clear on the product and store pages. Keep in mind that things do sometimes go off the rails due to a snag or a last minute glitch in the final push to release. So my posting this now does not guarantee that the release will be exactly as I predict, but the odds are pretty good and any delay in the online release would only be a day or two.

Regards,

- Erik

Maybe Erik should get an Honorary St George (Patron Saint of Cavalry) Award!
 
Allons!

After playing the digital version of Forge of Freedom I really want the printed manual. So I guess Ill just sit tight few more days.

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Thanks for your input everyone.

We've decided to push for an online (digital) release ASAP. - Erik

... and there was much rejoicing... yeaaaaaa [&o]

oh one more question... is it Friday yet? [:D]