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RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:15 pm
by DivePac88
ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

ORIGINAL: DivePac88
ORIGINAL: Terminus

It wasn't.

Thankyou for that.
So T, when are you going to start that seminar and how to win friends and influence people?[:'(]

It’s Ok no bones broken and I realize that T is just economical with his answers. [:'(]

RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:54 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Chad Harrison

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Must have been difficult to land on her with that big flagstaff at the end of the flight deck...

[:D]



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They're moored at a pier. I'm sure most eveyone here knows this (but not the artist), but the position of the ensign is VERY important on a US Navy warship. When moored the national ensign is flown from the stern and the jack from the bow. When the ship gets underway, when the anchor comes off the bottom (is "aweigh") or the last mooring line is detached from the bollard/cleat on the pier, the command "shift colors" is given and the ensign is lowered at the stern and run up on the mast, (and th ejack is removed fromt he bow and not replaced by anything.) Underway US Navy vessels always fly the ensign from the masthead (except subs, sometimes, but let's not go into that . . .) This has legal implications as the Rules of the Road change dramaticlaly when a vessel is underway, or underway and making way, versus anchored/moored.

In battle, especially, for national pride as well as identification, a VERY large ensign is going to be at the masthead. Getting this wrong in a painting is a Big Mistake (tm), not a minor one, such as forgetting boiler exhaust.

RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:41 pm
by pasternakski
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
They're moored at a pier. I'm sure most eveyone here knows this (but not the artist), but the position of the ensign is VERY important on a US Navy warship. When moored the national ensign is flown from the stern and the jack from the bow. When the ship gets underway, when the anchor comes off the bottom (is "aweigh") or the last mooring line is detached from the bollard/cleat on the pier, the command "shift colors" is given and the ensign is lowered at the stern and run up on the mast, (and th ejack is removed fromt he bow and not replaced by anything.) Underway US Navy vessels always fly the ensign from the masthead (except subs, sometimes, but let's not go into that . . .) This has legal implications as the Rules of the Road change dramaticlaly when a vessel is underway, or underway and making way, versus anchored/moored.

In battle, especially, for national pride as well as identification, a VERY large ensign is going to be at the masthead. Getting this wrong in a painting is a Big Mistake (tm), not a minor one, such as forgetting boiler exhaust.
Thank you, Mr. Know-It-All.


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RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:51 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

ORIGINAL: DivePac88
ORIGINAL: Terminus

It wasn't.

Thankyou for that.
So T, when are you going to start that seminar and how to win friends and influence people?[:'(]

If only people would understand that I'm always right, there'd be no problems...[:'(]

RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:07 pm
by bobogoboom
ORIGINAL: Chad Harrison

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Must have been difficult to land on her with that big flagstaff at the end of the flight deck...

[:D]



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really.[:'(]

RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:08 pm
by bobogoboom
ORIGINAL: stuman

ORIGINAL: Chad Harrison

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Must have been difficult to land on her with that big flagstaff at the end of the flight deck...

[:D]



Image

Great picture. Is the 4th ship a CVE ?
cvl

RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:13 pm
by bobogoboom
ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

ORIGINAL: DivePac88



Thankyou for that.
So T, when are you going to start that seminar and how to win friends and influence people?[:'(]

If only people would understand that I'm always right, there'd be no problems...[:'(]
no your not.[:'(]

RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:46 pm
by Hornblower
Sara's a good looking ship- to bad she ate two torps...

RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:50 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: pasternakski

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
They're moored at a pier. I'm sure most eveyone here knows this (but not the artist), but the position of the ensign is VERY important on a US Navy warship. When moored the national ensign is flown from the stern and the jack from the bow. When the ship gets underway, when the anchor comes off the bottom (is "aweigh") or the last mooring line is detached from the bollard/cleat on the pier, the command "shift colors" is given and the ensign is lowered at the stern and run up on the mast, (and th ejack is removed fromt he bow and not replaced by anything.) Underway US Navy vessels always fly the ensign from the masthead (except subs, sometimes, but let's not go into that . . .) This has legal implications as the Rules of the Road change dramaticlaly when a vessel is underway, or underway and making way, versus anchored/moored.

In battle, especially, for national pride as well as identification, a VERY large ensign is going to be at the masthead. Getting this wrong in a painting is a Big Mistake (tm), not a minor one, such as forgetting boiler exhaust.
Thank you, Mr. Know-It-All.


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Nuttin' up my sleeve! Presto!

Bullwinkle of Frostbite Falls

RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:39 am
by Nikademus
ORIGINAL: Hornblower

Sara's a good looking ship- to bad she ate two torps...


its too bad she got expended in an A-bomb test! Then again.....she still exists.


RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:19 pm
by bobogoboom
ORIGINAL: Nikademus

ORIGINAL: Hornblower

Sara's a good looking ship- to bad she ate two torps...


its too bad she got expended in an A-bomb test! Then again.....she still exists.

for another 50 years or so.

RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:41 pm
by Nikademus
probably less for the Arizona.


RE: Desk-top of Hornet at Santa Cruz.

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:34 am
by BrucePowers
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