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ORIGINAL: dpstafford

ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

you dont want flotation damage in a comprehensive pacific wargame?

have you thought that maybee this is the wrong game for you. something like hearts of iron would probobly be more up your alley

Have you ever actually played the game? It already has floatation damage.

I would estimate that I have played more turns of PW/UV/WITP, by an order of magnitude, than you ever will. It is, in fact, the only game I play.

ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: ckammp


The HMS Indomitable hit a reef in Jamaica on 3 NOV 41, and was forced to go to Norfolk,VA for repairs. This prevented her from carrying out her original mission: accompany Force Z to Singapore.

I wonder if Indomitable had been part of Force Z, would the outcome have been any different. Would Tom Thumb have taken the Carrier and her Fulmars into the Gulf of Siam with him. Would the Fulmars have been able to handle the Betties and Nells, or would Indomitable have joined POW and Repulse on the bottom?

i believe she still had sea gadiators at the time. and no it wouldn't of made a diff it would of just got it sunk. there were not enough fighters to deal with all the bombers.

ORIGINAL: dpstafford

ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

you dont want flotation damage in a comprehensive pacific wargame?

have you thought that maybee this is the wrong game for you. something like hearts of iron would probobly be more up your alley

Have you ever actually played the game? It already has floatation damage.

I would estimate that I have played more turns of PW/UV/WITP, by an order of magnitude, than you ever will. It is, in fact, the only game I play.

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: dpstafford

ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

you dont want flotation damage in a comprehensive pacific wargame?

have you thought that maybee this is the wrong game for you. something like hearts of iron would probobly be more up your alley

Have you ever actually played the game? It already has floatation damage.

I would estimate that I have played more turns of PW/UV/WITP, by an order of magnitude, than you ever will. It is, in fact, the only game I play.

Well, good for you. Here's your medal, now go away...

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Have you played the game "an order of magnitude more" than somebody else? Otherwise, no medal for you![:'(]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Sorry... This is the Medal for Bragging about How Much I've Played a Computer Game...

ORIGINAL: dpstafford

ORIGINAL: JWE
Ship damage is almost an order of magnitude more grainy than stock. Stock had four damage data fields; SysDam, FlotDam, EngDam, and Fires. AE has the same four, but also allocates a certain portion of FlotDam and EngDam as “major” damage.

So this is the sort of thing that has taken so long? I seriously hope that you spent some of that time on things that aren't so cosmetic. That you spent some of that time working on stuff that actually needed fixed.

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

ORIGINAL: DivePac88





I wonder if Indomitable had been part of Force Z, would the outcome have been any different. Would Tom Thumb have taken the Carrier and her Fulmars into the Gulf of Siam with him. Would the Fulmars have been able to handle the Betties and Nells, or would Indomitable have joined POW and Repulse on the bottom?

i believe she still had sea gadiators at the time. and no it wouldn't of made a diff it would of just got it sunk. there were not enough fighters to deal with all the bombers.

Good grief, no... Sea Gladiators??? During this time period, she carried Fulmars, Sea Hurricanes and Martlets. Still wouldn't have saved her or the rest of Force Z, since she (like all other RN carriers) carried too few aircraft to be effective.

Who knows? If a couple of key "leader aircraft" of the attacking aircraft had been forced to abort, the whole attack could have fallen apart... i doubt the odds on this were high, but strange, strange things happen in combat.

This could be an interesting "what if" scenario...

ORIGINAL: hartwig.modrow

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Sorry... This is the Medal for Bragging about How Much I've Played a Computer Game...

Is there also a medal for griping about how much someone else plays a computer game ? If so, I'd like to nominate my wife for it...

Hartwig

ORIGINAL: stuman

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Have you played the game "an order of magnitude more" than somebody else? Otherwise, no medal for you![:'(]

Well, I have made a fool of myself at more parties and bars than just about anyone I know. Does that count ?

ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

ORIGINAL: stuman

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Have you played the game "an order of magnitude more" than somebody else? Otherwise, no medal for you![:'(]

Well, I have made a fool of myself at more parties and bars than just about anyone I know. Does that count ?

i highly doubt that[:'(] have you ever walked around a bar with no cloths on and then decided to flirt with some ladies with no cloths on[8D]

ORIGINAL: spence

Who knows? If a couple of key "leader aircraft" of the attacking aircraft had been forced to abort, the whole attack could have fallen apart... i doubt the odds on this were high, but strange, strange things happen in combat.

This could be an interesting "what if" scenario...

IRL the IJN units in question never came close to repeating the performance of that attack on Force Z...seems to me that a few fighters lighting up some of the "Ronsons" might well have altered that outcome on that day. In the campaign though the ships would have had to withdraw from the region of Singapore or be sunk simply because the Japanese had far more air assets in the area than Britian could muster for quite some months.

ORIGINAL: JWE


... gobs ...

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

ORIGINAL: spence

Who knows? If a couple of key "leader aircraft" of the attacking aircraft had been forced to abort, the whole attack could have fallen apart... i doubt the odds on this were high, but strange, strange things happen in combat.

This could be an interesting "what if" scenario...

IRL the IJN units in question never came close to repeating the performance of that attack on Force Z...seems to me that a few fighters lighting up some of the "Ronsons" might well have altered that outcome on that day. In the campaign though the ships would have had to withdraw from the region of Singapore or be sunk simply because the Japanese had far more air assets in the area than Britian could muster for quite some months.

Actually, thinking on it, it is quite possible that a few CV fighters and patrol aircraft could have decisively altered the outcome of events: the whole thing hinged on a sighting report of Force Z by a few aircraft, that had been alerted by a sub, iirc... had the sub been sighted and "driven under" before making the contact by aircraft, or the aircraft been intercepted and driven off before sighting the ships, things might have been dramatically different...

ORIGINAL: Chris H

ORIGINAL: JWE
... gobs ...

In non-US speak what does this mean? Probably not what I umderstand the word to mean.

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: bobogoboom



i believe she still had sea gadiators at the time. and no it wouldn't of made a diff it would of just got it sunk. there were not enough fighters to deal with all the bombers.

Good grief, no... Sea Gladiators??? During this time period, she carried Fulmars, Sea Hurricanes and Martlets. Still wouldn't have saved her or the rest of Force Z, since she (like all other RN carriers) carried too few aircraft to be effective.

Who knows? If a couple of key "leader aircraft" of the attacking aircraft had been forced to abort, the whole attack could have fallen apart... i doubt the odds on this were high, but strange, strange things happen in combat.

This could be an interesting "what if" scenario...