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RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:16 am
by LoBaron
ORIGINAL: castor troy
ORIGINAL: pompack
ORIGINAL: castor troy
the only thing I don´t get is why setting it as a training unit when you can always do training? [&:]
A Training unit (as opposed to simply a unit training [:D]) is allowed to expand to double pilots. AND you can rotate the trained pilots back to the general pool in groups of 10. Also you can only get the instructors bonus (PMA section 7 Item 3) in a training unit
interesting thanks.
for me, doubling the pilots is something I probably won´t do as I can´t see much of a need for it, except lowering micromanagement as I guess if every pilot has his own aircraft he will train up faster. Rotating in groups of 10 can also be an advantage but again it´s more or less only lowering micromanagement. The instructor sounds interesting. In a normal group set to training you get the leader and veterans as bonus for the rookie training but probably not the instructor? Whereas in a training unit you get the leader, veterans and the instructors that were sent back to training command?
Thanks I did not know this either.
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:07 am
by Milman
Which patch introduce button to pull veteran pilots in air gropus ?
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:38 pm
by MaB1708
So with the dedicated training groups removed, how do I currently make use of the TRACOM? Are the pilots assigned to TRACOM automatically train a) the pilots in reserve pool? or b) or will they increase training effects for all pilots of all squadrons for which the orders contain a training of any percentage? Someone pls elaborate on how to train using TRACOM in current version of AE.
Thanks!
Martin
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:09 pm
by Alfred
Pilots in TRACOM do only one thing: they speed up the number of graduates but note these additional graduates are taken from whatever is already in the pipeline, no additional trainees enter the pipeline to replace the additional graduates.
TRACOM does not increase the experience or skills of graduating pilots.
Alfred
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:24 pm
by Sredni
TRACOM seems generally worthless since the two nationalities (british and american navy/army/marine) that are going to see decent numbers of tracom able pilots have a huge glut of never ending trainee pilots anyways. We probably have 100's of times more pilots in the pools then we have airframes to burn through to kill them off. Mostly if I pull 81+ xp pilots out of operational units I use them to put one high experience pilot in each stateside training group.
India probably also doesn't have access to the airframes needed to burn through even their paltry pilot pools, ditto for canada, NZ, and OZ. China could use a lot more pilots, at least at the start to fill out their groups. But china would run out of airframes the second you actually started using their airforce anyways.
Mebbe they're worthwhile for the japanese.
I wish pilots in TRACOM increased the specific skills of pilots coming out of the pools. Not even experience really. Ideally I would like pilots coming out of the pools to have 35ish experience (so they can still be readily trained in a trainer group) and a higher starting level of specific skills. Like if you get 100 TRACOM pilots with 70ish airskill it would be nice if they made pilots coming out of the pools start with 50 airskill or something.
meh. I guess that's just wishful thinking since it is what it is. Largely fluff.
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:43 am
by The Gnome
ORIGINAL: samthesham
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Should we disregard this?
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:28 am
by USSAmerica
ORIGINAL: The Gnome
ORIGINAL: samthesham
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Should we disregard this?
Anything but that! [:D]
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:32 pm
by rjopel
I can't get this to work. What version is required?
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:54 pm
by vettim89
Just for clarification, units using "training" as mission will see their pilots' skill levels increase but not their EXP. Is that correct?
I the above is a correct statement, then is anyone putting fighter units on say 90% train 10% CAP? Just wondering if that would help the EXP climb simultaneously
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:16 pm
by JohnDillworth
It might. I usually stick a unit on 100% cap and range 0 for a month. That kicks the experience up. However, I can not figure out how to get bomber experience up. Skills yes, experience no
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:31 pm
by Alfred
ORIGINAL: vettim89
Just for clarification, units using "training" as mission will see their pilots' skill levels increase but not their EXP. Is that correct?
I the above is a correct statement, then is anyone putting fighter units on say 90% train 10% CAP? Just wondering if that would help the EXP climb simultaneously
vettim89,
If you have a unit on 100% training on a particular skill, most of the increase will be on the skill but some will also accrue to experience. I have had turns where a pilot has had both his experience and the targetted skill increase in the same turn. However in my experience there does appear to be a slow down in the rate of increasing experience once it hits 50% whereas the equivalent rate slowdown in skill increase is in the 60s (NB the 70% upper skill limit).
Once you have maxed out a particular skill, start training on a different skill. That seems to assist in gaining some additional experience levels. Also if you have the unit on General Training, that appears to also direct more of the training towards upping the experience level at a faster rate than if you concentrate on a particular skill.
Alfred
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:38 am
by MaB1708
All very helpfull to clear things up for me on trainings. Thanks, guys.
Martin
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:26 pm
by Rob Brennan UK
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
It might. I usually stick a unit on 100% cap and range 0 for a month. That kicks the experience up. However, I can not figure out how to get bomber experience up. Skills yes, experience no
Operating naval search range 0-1 might do that for your bomber pilots John.
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:17 pm
by JohnDillworth
Operating naval search range 0-1 might do that for your bomber pilots John.
giving it a whilr, my pilots are bored anyway.
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:18 pm
by Rob Brennan UK
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
Operating naval search range 0-1 might do that for your bomber pilots John.
giving it a whilr, my pilots are bored anyway.
Let me know if it works , new PBEM going so useful tips always welcomed [;)]
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:23 pm
by bradfordkay
If you want to train your bomber pilots up, setting their primary mission to - say - naval attack with a percentage set for naval search will see them gain experience in naval attack.
RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:45 pm
by Grfin Zeppelin
ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
If you want to train your bomber pilots up, setting their primary mission to - say - naval attack with a percentage set for naval search will see them gain experience in naval attack.
I think he meant experience level, not skill level hun

RE: Best way to train Allied pilots?
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:06 am
by bradfordkay
ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin
ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
If you want to train your bomber pilots up, setting their primary mission to - say - naval attack with a percentage set for naval search will see them gain experience in naval attack.
I think he meant experience level, not skill level hun
Graefin, there is no setting that will gain your pilots only experience without a chance of increasing skills as well. My tip was for a way that will allow your pilots to gain both experience and a useful skill faster than they will gain them if you use only the Naval Search setting. Using Naval Attack (or Ground Attack) combined with a percentage set to naval search seems to work faster for me while still performing a useful function as opposed to just setting them on "training".