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RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:24 pm
by cmill1978
@john688

I suppose because it is more feasible to get new customers than to satisfy those who have already paid. Unfortunate, but it seems that is the case.

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:32 pm
by simovitch
ORIGINAL: john688

Why is the demo getting priority over the patch ?
The demo is ready, the patch is not. The patch will have several data content fixes and probably a few more bug fixes and additional testing that were not needed for the demo.[:)]

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:40 pm
by john688
So no quick fix for CTDs.

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:26 pm
by Arjuna
AFAIK Paul has fixed all the CTDs. The Patch is waiting my return to Autralia as well as the demo. They'll both get priority over all other business. My aim will be to release them asap after my return.

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:02 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
ORIGINAL: Arjuna
The Patch is waiting my return to Autralia as well as the demo.

There's a rumor going around that President Obama believes that Autralian is a language.

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:52 am
by PirateJock
Thanks for the info.

Cheers

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:35 pm
by Redmarkus5
It happens all the time (meaning very often) so it should be easy to reproduce. I sent a save game a few weeks ago on another thread (tm.asp?m=2487125) that showed an example with HQ movement.

There's a similar issue with mortar units which was reported and acknowledged, but I don't see it mentioned in the list of fixes.

Maybe the AI is too clever and HQ/mortar/support units should just be coded to always stay behind the infantry and to run from the enemy when spotted by any subordinate unit? I understand that having the HQ do its own check to determine whether it moves onto the objective is good for the purposes of realism, but how many HQ staffs actually wandered into the enemy's lines historically. Surely not so many that hard-coding more sensible behaviour would spoil the game experience...

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:18 pm
by GBS
Rredmarcus said - I understand that having the HQ do its own check to determine whether it moves onto the objective is good for the purposes of realism, but how many HQ staffs actually wandered into the enemy's lines historically.


Stonewall Jackson is the only one I can think of.......gulp....

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:12 am
by Johnus
So, any news on when? If the CTD's are fixed, I think an interim patch should be issued now.

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:51 am
by bretg80
It appears that our request for a beta patch has fallen on deaf ears. Dave has purposely avoided discussing a beta patch and has completely avoided discussing what happened and why the quality was so poor. I think he took his eye off the ball while he was in the US at Origins and unfortunately, the game was not in a good place while he was away. Be that as it may, Dave has indicated that we may see a patch in the next week, so let's keep our fingers crossed that they will be successful with this first patch and we'll have the fixes we need soon.


RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:50 am
by PirateJock
For the sake of a few days (hopefully [;)]) I can't see any benefit of a beta patch for general release - it's a short-term, interim measure taking up time better spent finishing off the real thing. In the grand scheme I'm not sure how Dave being in the US has any significant impact on the game. From the amount of travelling and gaming done I'm not sure if his eyes would even be open [:)]

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:24 am
by jhdeerslayer
ORIGINAL: bretg80

It appears that our request for a beta patch has fallen on deaf ears. Dave has purposely avoided discussing a beta patch and has completely avoided discussing what happened and why the quality was so poor. I think he took his eye off the ball while he was in the US at Origins and unfortunately, the game was not in a good place while he was away. Be that as it may, Dave has indicated that we may see a patch in the next week, so let's keep our fingers crossed that they will be successful with this first patch and we'll have the fixes we need soon.


I ran into this same CTD show stopper issue with COTA and was unable to play for a long time. Main reason I am holding off on this one as didn't want to go through this again.

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:07 pm
by killkess
ORIGINAL: PirateJock
it's a short-term, interim measure taking up time better spent finishing off the real thing.

The time for finishing the real thing was before releasing this beta-state product. This convinces me again that I should not buy any software before trying them directly on my computer before.

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:14 pm
by vj531
ORIGINAL: killkess

ORIGINAL: PirateJock
it's a short-term, interim measure taking up time better spent finishing off the real thing.

The time for finishing the real thing was before releasing this beta-state product. This convinces me again that I should not buy any software before trying them directly on my computer before.

How are you going to do this I wonder?

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:35 pm
by Ron
ORIGINAL: sharper

How are you going to do this I wonder?




D-E-M-O....

Duh.


RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:59 pm
by vj531
ORIGINAL: Ron

ORIGINAL: sharper

How are you going to do this I wonder?




D-E-M-O....

Duh.


Demo's can be much older than the most up to date patch for many games.


RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:15 pm
by PirateJock
By real thing I mean gold build patch. And rather unusually in this case the demo will be the patched version .. hey having to wait for the demo has worked out to the good in the end ... if only the rest of life was so serendipitous.

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:46 pm
by bretg80
At this point I agree, a beta patch is not much good if they release the patch this week. However, we were asking for a beta patch weeks ago. We'll see if we are still asking for a patch in a few weeks.

Bret

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:16 am
by GBS
I lost KG Gutman HQ this morning in Race to Bastogne because it ran off by itself ahead of it's line units. This must be an imposible behavier to fix as it seems to be one of the oldest issues with the series. Heres wishing Arjuna figures something out...at last.

RE: BFTB Service Pack 1 - Progress

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:58 am
by killkess
What are the news about the patch?

At least keep us informed.... its already annoying enough not to be able to play.