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ORIGINAL: shunwick

It is possible to play TOAW almost superficially and players who do so are usually left wondering if terrain, supply, weather, and all the other stuff actually has that much of an effect.

But If you are prepared to put in the effort, to see past the hex grid to the terrain you troops are fighting in and to see past the counters to the troops who are cold, hungry, hurting, struggling, living and dying, then TOAW comes alive.

It is possible to play TOAW almost superficially and players who do so are usually left wondering if terrain, supply, weather, and all the other stuff actually has that much of an effect.

ORIGINAL: PFrancis

It is possible to play TOAW almost superficially and players who do so are usually left wondering if terrain, supply, weather, and all the other stuff actually has that much of an effect.

I think I'm at this point still. So, I tried to find my answer reading some AARs, but those tend to be very synthetic and descriptions tend to focus on attack axis and divisions involved, quoting battle results and cities captured, but we don't see a lot of considerations about terrain, equipment type, supply routes, communication lines, etc.
There are some (one or two, in fact) detailed AARs I could find, but they deal mostly with engine characteristics, like turn burn, how to avoid loosing too many rounds on a battle, etc.
Your description helps a lot, making me believe there is much more under the simplistic appearance of just pushing the counters in the right places. Thanks very much.

ORIGINAL: Karri

ORIGINAL: PFrancis

It is possible to play TOAW almost superficially and players who do so are usually left wondering if terrain, supply, weather, and all the other stuff actually has that much of an effect.

I think I'm at this point still. So, I tried to find my answer reading some AARs, but those tend to be very synthetic and descriptions tend to focus on attack axis and divisions involved, quoting battle results and cities captured, but we don't see a lot of considerations about terrain, equipment type, supply routes, communication lines, etc.
There are some (one or two, in fact) detailed AARs I could find, but they deal mostly with engine characteristics, like turn burn, how to avoid loosing too many rounds on a battle, etc.
Your description helps a lot, making me believe there is much more under the simplistic appearance of just pushing the counters in the right places. Thanks very much.

Some of us have been playing for years(decades?), I don't really pay any attention to the details because I know them by heart by now...probaply why the AARs don't tell that much.

ORIGINAL: PFrancis

There is still one concern I have. I've noticed that Fire in the East seems to be the most played scenario, really dominating the Toaw scene. I began to ask myself about the possibility of Toaw surviving the emergence of games like Gary Grigsby War in the East. I know it won't have the flexibility of Toaw, which covers dozens of different conflicts. This flexibility is what I like the most about the game, but will I be able to find opponents for scenarios which don't portray the eastern front or WWII in general?
I would like to hear your oppinion about the future of Toaw when facing a game which covers the preferred theatre for Toaw players in a more detailed way.

ORIGINAL: Karri

ORIGINAL: PFrancis

There is still one concern I have. I've noticed that Fire in the East seems to be the most played scenario, really dominating the Toaw scene. I began to ask myself about the possibility of Toaw surviving the emergence of games like Gary Grigsby War in the East...

I would like to hear your oppinion about the future of Toaw when facing a game which covers the preferred theatre for Toaw players in a more detailed way.

FitE dominates the AARs, plenty of people who play other scenarios.

Well, dunno about plenty, no idea how many people still play this game.

ORIGINAL: PFrancis

There is still one concern I have. I've noticed that Fire in the East seems to be the most played scenario, really dominating the Toaw scene. I began to ask myself about the possibility of Toaw surviving the emergence of games like Gary Grigsby War in the East. I know it won't have the flexibility of Toaw, which covers dozens of different conflicts. This flexibility is what I like the most about the game, but will I be able to find opponents for scenarios which don't portray the eastern front or WWII in general?
I would like to hear your oppinion about the future of Toaw when facing a game which covers the preferred theatre for Toaw players in a more detailed way.