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RE: Why the poor allied pilots in the beginning of the war?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:29 pm
by crsutton
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
good tip on the Navy pilots. In January 42 the only thing I am swaeting in Army figher pilots. Good to know to plan for the future. So the kingfishers go to naval attack? Won't they then show up in the recon/patrol pool? Short of Ctalina's to. Heck, it's January 42, I'm short of everything; pilots, fighters, engineers, fuel, airbases,destroyers, escorts, good ASW, time, experience, mines, B-17's, Australian Divisions, AE's. AR's, level 7 bases...........................
thanks
I don't think it really matters. A experienced pilot with good naval attack skill will do just fine in a dive bomber no matter what title he has. Just look for the skills.
RE: Why the poor allied pilots in the beginning of the war?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:17 pm
by wdolson
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Hey, Elf.
I wasn't really wondering why so many guys are in the 40s as much as why ONE guy is a superman and he didn't share the wealth of his knowledge. It's fine as far as the OOB goes; I just pulled the supermen out to use another day in better aircraft. It was just, maybe, a little humorous. I got a picture of the superman at the bar drinking pints while his mates sweated over flight manuals.
See Nikadeamus' quote from Bloody Shambles. Most of the pilots in the Far East were fresh out of advanced training and there wasn't enough time for the few experienced pilots to pass on their knowledge. Also what knowledge the experienced veterans had often turned out to not be directly applicable. The fighter tactics that worked OK with the Germans turned out to be disastrous against the Japanese who's fighters were more maneuverable than Allied fighters.
The British were slower to adapt to this reality than the Americans were.
Bill
RE: Why the poor allied pilots in the beginning of the war?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:50 pm
by Shark7
ORIGINAL: wdolson
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Hey, Elf.
I wasn't really wondering why so many guys are in the 40s as much as why ONE guy is a superman and he didn't share the wealth of his knowledge. It's fine as far as the OOB goes; I just pulled the supermen out to use another day in better aircraft. It was just, maybe, a little humorous. I got a picture of the superman at the bar drinking pints while his mates sweated over flight manuals.
See Nikadeamus' quote from Bloody Shambles. Most of the pilots in the Far East were fresh out of advanced training and there wasn't enough time for the few experienced pilots to pass on their knowledge. Also what knowledge the experienced veterans had often turned out to not be directly applicable. The fighter tactics that worked OK with the Germans turned out to be disastrous against the Japanese who's fighters were more maneuverable than Allied fighters.
The British were slower to adapt to this reality than the Americans were.
Bill
Not to mention the fact that the British were primarily still engaged against the Luftwaffe, the Battle of Britian only barely being over. When the enemy is at the gates, you don't send your best troops to the backyard, you keep them at the gates.
RE: Why the poor allied pilots in the beginning of the war?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:04 am
by bradfordkay
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: TheElf
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I went through unit after unit in the first week, and the Brits would have one uber-super-star at 72 or something (one!) surrounded by midgets in the 40s. What's up with that?
The war in the east was not Churchill's first priority. That is reflected in the pilot training at game start and MANY other places in the OoB. One of the main reasons the ABDA got their hat's handed to them...
Hey, Elf.
I wasn't really wondering why so many guys are in the 40s as much as why ONE guy is a superman and he didn't share the wealth of his knowledge. It's fine as far as the OOB goes; I just pulled the supermen out to use another day in better aircraft. It was just, maybe, a little humorous. I got a picture of the superman at the bar drinking pints while his mates sweated over flight manuals.
It has been my impression that having a high quality pilot in your training squadron helps increase the training rate. I don't pay close enough attention to the training rates of my squadrons to verify this, but I have certainly been playing under the theory that it works this way.
RE: Why the poor allied pilots in the beginning of the war?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:49 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
It has been my impression that having a high quality pilot in your training squadron helps increase the training rate. I don't pay close enough attention to the training rates of my squadrons to verify this, but I have certainly been playing under the theory that it works this way.
I thought this had been discussed in the past weks or so here and the consensus was this is not part of the engine. Perhaps it has to be the CO? I don't know.
RE: Why the poor allied pilots in the beginning of the war?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:48 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
It has been my impression that having a high quality pilot in your training squadron helps increase the training rate. I don't pay close enough attention to the training rates of my squadrons to verify this, but I have certainly been playing under the theory that it works this way.
I thought this had been discussed in the past weks or so here and the consensus was this is not part of the engine. Perhaps it has to be the CO? I don't know.
A long time ago the devs said that both are part of the engine. The CO matters and the other pilots matter.