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RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:57 am
by Josh
FAIL!

Failblog rules [:D]

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:40 pm
by diablo1
The idea that the game is a failure because it hadn't sold out of every store someone walked in to during the first day is just...odd.

Not really when you can compare walking into those same stores when Modern Warfare 2 was released and you couldn't find a copy anywhere on the day of release and yes they had individual displays just like SC2 has.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:56 pm
by ezzler
Red or Dead redemption was sold out for about 5 days on release.
Doesn't mean too much. GAME had full displays on release and all gone.
Starcraft is still there but who knows? Maybe they packed twice as many onto the shelves.

I've never played SC. Thought it was just another command and conquer. Am I wrong?

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:45 pm
by Terminus
Depends on the person you ask. I played Starcraft and Broodwar to completion several times back in the day, and enjoyed them tremendously. They were made in the days before Blizzard launched World of Warcrap, and was still a company who believed in telling a strong story in a game.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:53 pm
by mjk428
ORIGINAL: diablo1
The idea that the game is a failure because it hadn't sold out of every store someone walked in to during the first day is just...odd.

Not really when you can compare walking into those same stores when Modern Warfare 2 was released and you couldn't find a copy anywhere on the day of release and yes they had individual displays just like SC2 has.

MW2 is also a console game. Only 12% of those huge sales numbers were for PC in week 1. Doesn't really surprise me that some stores may have understocked the PC version of MW2 - especially considering it was the holiday season and there were other games vying for shelf space. Starcraft 2 is all about PC/Mac sales - no console competion. It's also a summer release. Wouldn't surprise me if some stores overstocked SC2.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/5826 ... n-day-one/

I'll bet SC2 for PC compares very well to MW2 for PC in worldwide sales.
"Early data is in and it looks like StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty has become the fastest-selling game of 2010 to date and one of the fastest-selling PC games of all time. VGChartz estimates that around 1.8 million units of the game were sold on day 1 across the Americas and Europe including both physical retail sales and Battle.net download sales. This figure does not include players in Korea where it is virtually impossible to accurately estimate how many people will have purchased the game due to the way in which it is sold - mainly via time cards and also with Blizzard announcing that World of Warcraft users with an active account in Korea would be able to play the game free of charge. The number of players in Korea playing the game on day 1 could be as high at 3-4 million but only Blizzard will know for sure." (Industry, PC, StarCraft II: Wings of LIberty)

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:15 pm
by Knavery
ORIGINAL: diablo1
The idea that the game is a failure because it hadn't sold out of every store someone walked in to during the first day is just...odd.

Not really when you can compare walking into those same stores when Modern Warfare 2 was released and you couldn't find a copy anywhere on the day of release and yes they had individual displays just like SC2 has.

I'm quite sure that Blizzard/Activision sold more units of Starcraft 2 in pre-orders alone than Modern Warfare 2 has to date. I'm just talking about the PC here. I could be wrong, but it's just a guess.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:29 pm
by diablo1
I'm quite sure that Blizzard/Activision sold more units of Starcraft 2 in pre-orders alone than Modern Warfare 2 has to date.

How can you be quite sure in one sentence and
I could be wrong, but it's just a guess.

in the next?

You're either sure or it's just a guess.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:33 pm
by Fallschirmjager
I am having a lot of fun so far. The single player is getting better as the mission go along and multiplayer is as strong as ever.
I am also impressed with the AI. Me and a work friend player 2 vs 2 against two AIs on hard and after a thrilling 80 minute match we were both defeated. The AI does not cheat because we would find them constantly moving overlords and observers (both are detectors and scout units) around the map in an effort to find us and detect any expansions. The AI also seemed to know when they went up against strong defensive belts because they would do a probing attack and then fall back.
They also tried the flanks several time and even did one aerial drop with transports. Very impressive.
The thing I was most impressed with is that they won by denying us resources. We both tried to expand our bases but never could due to strong challenges and never being able to establish defenses to protect our expansions. We lost eventualy by running out of resources and having our base defenses slowly eaten away.
Very impressive AI so far.



Anyways, I still don't fully understand the anger over breaking the games up. I fully expect the next two games to be $60 each. But I also don't expect them to be expansions. I expect them to both be full games.
From what I have heard so far each game will be stand alone but will deny you units in multi player unless you own the other games. Sort of like the Dawn of War series.
The next two games will both have the same amount of missions.

The only thing so far that I am unimpressed with is the quality of the story telling. The voice acting and writing is both weak and I feel missing something from the original games.
I am only seven missions in though so that could change.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:34 pm
by Fallschirmjager
One more thing. Wargamers complaining about lack of content is also a little funny to me. We are people who have paid 50..60..70 dollars for a single campaign in a war or even a single battle in a war.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:41 pm
by David Heath
The game really looks great but man I can't win.

David

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:48 pm
by Challerain

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:08 pm
by diablo1
For those that think SC2 will top the sales charts this year get a load of this
Red Dead Redemption exploded onto shelves in North America and Europe in May. Since then, the open-world action game has won rapt reviews across the board, sold more than 5 million units,

That's 5 million units before it even hits Japan and the east. Whereas SC2 already started out in the east.

This is the game I'd rather sink my money into than SC2 but I don't have the Xbox or PS3 [:(]

SC2 may well take the RTS title for most sales but there's really nothing to compete with since they are all pretty much the same anyways.

Overall though I think Red Dead Redemption could turn out to be Game of the Year or best selling Game of the Year.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:22 pm
by Fallschirmjager
ORIGINAL: diablo1

For those that think SC2 will top the sales charts this year get a load of this
Red Dead Redemption exploded onto shelves in North America and Europe in May. Since then, the open-world action game has won rapt reviews across the board, sold more than 5 million units,

That's 5 million units before it even hits Japan and the east. Whereas SC2 already started out in the east.

This is the game I'd rather sink my money into than SC2 but I don't have the Xbox or PS3 [:(]

SC2 may well take the RTS title for most sales but there's really nothing to compete with since they are all pretty much the same anyways.

Overall though I think Red Dead Redemption could turn out to be Game of the Year or best selling Game of the Year.

Red Dead Redemption will sell less than 500,000 copies in Japan. The Japanese have very different tastes in games and games developed outside of Japan tend not to do well. Grand Theft Auto 4 has sold less than 350,000 copies in Japan.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:44 pm
by jomni
I'm Asian and I don't care about RDR.  It's just not my type of game.  But I know a lot of Asians who like those types of games but already imported the US version of RDR.  So I don't know how much additional sales this will generate.
 
BTW Starcraft is BIG in Asia.  Expecially Korea where almost half of the sales comes from this country alone.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:20 am
by diablo1
Expecially Korea where almost half of the sales comes from this country alone.

Probably a lot more than 1/2. I'd say the majority. If you take out the asian sales of games like these most publishers would do well to sell a million copies. I think Americans and Europeans are more into FPS than RTS games just by sales figures that we can see. And of course The Sims is the grand mother of them all.

Also I'm American and I don't care about SC2 It's just not my type of game.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:28 am
by Knavery
ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

ORIGINAL: diablo1

For those that think SC2 will top the sales charts this year get a load of this
Red Dead Redemption exploded onto shelves in North America and Europe in May. Since then, the open-world action game has won rapt reviews across the board, sold more than 5 million units,

That's 5 million units before it even hits Japan and the east. Whereas SC2 already started out in the east.

This is the game I'd rather sink my money into than SC2 but I don't have the Xbox or PS3 [:(]

SC2 may well take the RTS title for most sales but there's really nothing to compete with since they are all pretty much the same anyways.

Overall though I think Red Dead Redemption could turn out to be Game of the Year or best selling Game of the Year.

Red Dead Redemption will sell less than 500,000 copies in Japan. The Japanese have very different tastes in games and games developed outside of Japan tend not to do well. Grand Theft Auto 4 has sold less than 350,000 copies in Japan.

Plus we're talking about the PS3 compared to the PC.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:51 pm
by blastpop
ORIGINAL: David Heath

The game really looks great but man I can't win.

David


That happens to us old guys... Tho in the Beta I did manage to win a number of games.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:41 pm
by Challerain

Another sales estimate posted on Blues News


StarCraft II Sales Estimates

[9:23 pm ET] - Share - 42 Comments
VGChartz follows their preorder figures for StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty with an estimate of the first-day sales of the real-time strategy sequel. They think the game sold as many as 1.8 million units, a pretty impressive figure, and all the more so considering it does not account for Asian territories. They say: "Breaking down the 1.8 million sales in the Americas and Europe, VGChartz estimates that around 31% or 570,000 units were sold digitally via Battle.net (obtained via a study of order numbers during the first day of sale) with the remainder coming from physical retail sales and 57% of total sales coming from the Americas with the remainder from Europe." Thanks joao. In other SC2 news, Big Download has word that chat rooms will be included in an upcoming patch, and Joystiq has word on the RTS sequel's inclusion of a Lost Viking arcade mini-game.

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:27 pm
by Lützow
Could not resist and purchased it. [:D]

RE: Starcraft 2

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:39 pm
by Josh
ORIGINAL: Challerain


Another sales estimate posted on Blues News


StarCraft II Sales Estimates

[9:23 pm ET] - Share - 42 Comments
VGChartz follows their preorder figures for StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty with an estimate of the first-day sales of the real-time strategy sequel. They think the game sold as many as 1.8 million units, a pretty impressive figure, and all the more so considering it does not account for Asian territories. They say: "Breaking down the 1.8 million sales in the Americas and Europe, VGChartz estimates that around 31% or 570,000 units were sold digitally via Battle.net (obtained via a study of order numbers during the first day of sale) with the remainder coming from physical retail sales and 57% of total sales coming from the Americas with the remainder from Europe." Thanks joao. In other SC2 news, Big Download has word that chat rooms will be included in an upcoming patch, and Joystiq has word on the RTS sequel's inclusion of a Lost Viking arcade mini-game.

Say what? Lost Vikings is in SC2? Gosh that was a fun little game.
Seems you're right:

Blizzard's Lost Viking in StarCraft II
A hidden arcade game in the story mode.

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/110/1108961p1.html