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RE: The Soviet Air Juggernaut in 43
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:00 pm
by ComradeP
Bob: taking between 500 and 1000 losses solely from tactical bombers in numerous attacks each turn isn't sustainable for the Germans, especially if it's the mobile units taking the losses.
RE: The Soviet Air Juggernaut in 43
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:04 pm
by karonagames
On the first turns everyone's fuel, ammo, readiness etc is at 100% so you are seeing a best case scenario. Over the course of the game the average numbers will be much lower. And these results are from attacking, which the Axis does much less of. My previous test showed losses were much lower when defending.
RE: The Soviet Air Juggernaut in 43
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:12 pm
by Speedysteve
Still think it needs more looking into (thanks fior the test though by the way). I guess as more GC's get to late 42 onwards there'll be a lot more real data to analyse with!
RE: The Soviet Air Juggernaut in 43
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:16 pm
by karonagames
More data - yummy!!![:)]
RE: The Soviet Air Juggernaut in 43
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:19 pm
by ComradeP
On the first turns everyone's fuel, ammo, readiness etc is at 100% so you are seeing a best case scenario. Over the course of the game the average numbers will be much lower. And these results are from attacking, which the Axis does much less of. My previous test showed losses were much lower when defending.
I was thinking more of the 1942 campaign than the 1943 campaign. The Axis will be attacking in the 1942 campaign. That was also what prompted me to report the high losses: the losses I was taking from bi-planes and IL-2's in the 1942 campaign.
RE: The Soviet Air Juggernaut in 43
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:23 pm
by karonagames
I haven't done any 1942 testing - 41 and 43 have been my bag.
You are seeing 500-1000 losses from TAC with the fixed exe?
RE: The Soviet Air Juggernaut in 43
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:26 pm
by ComradeP
Haven't tried the patch yet in a 1942 campaign, so I'm not sure what kind of losses I'd be seeing.
RE: The Soviet Air Juggernaut in 43
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:57 pm
by randallw
MechFO, you should be sure the Fighter Intercept percentage in the Air Doctrine screen is good.
RE: The Soviet Air Juggernaut in 43
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:51 pm
by MechFO
http://web.archive.org/web/200806250630 ... power.html
Some real world information from the Normandy, instructive about the effects of air power even of the comparatively effective Western Allied ones.
RE: The Soviet Air Juggernaut in 43
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:52 pm
by MechFO
ORIGINAL: randallw
MechFO, you should be sure the Fighter Intercept percentage in the Air Doctrine screen is good.
This isn't about the effectiveness or lack of it of fighter interception, but about what amount of damage tactical air should be able to inflict.