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Re: Another kind of Grog

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 6:46 pm
by U2
Originally posted by Mogami
Hi there. Hopefully there is another class of Grognard. (I consider myself among these)
This Grognard must have and play any wargame. They tend to latch onto Companies or designers. (not periods or wars).
Where the normal gamer will have 1 PBEM game this type Grognard will have 6 (and another 6 in another game)
Right on the money Mogami!:) :D
Dan

sources

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 8:04 pm
by Tuomas Seijavuori
Thank you Jennifer so much for the pointers. This is exactly what I was looking for.
Originally posted by IMJennifer
Probably the best work on the subject is the Militärgeschichtliches Forschungsamt (Research Intitute for Military History) Das Deutsche Reich und der Zweite Weltkrieg
Sigh. Now I know how every Finnish-challenged person feels when they try to get their hands to really comprehensive account about Finland in WW2. I've got my local library full of excellent works which has never been translated to any other language.

Re: sources

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 8:19 pm
by IMJennifer
Originally posted by Tuomas Seijavuori
Sigh. Now I know how every Finnish-challenged person feels when they try to get their hands to really comprehensive account about Finland in WW2. I've got my local library full of excellent works which has never been translated to any other language.
:D It's very annoying! People like me would love to get their hands on that stuff, Finnish military accomplishments in the 20th century are fascinating, but almost nothing is written in English, the Russian sources are highly biased, and the Germans (for the most part) have ignored the subject. Alas, Finnish is a remarkably difficult language to learn.

See if your library, or another library nearby has Germany and the Second World War. An excellent study in English you might look at is Geoffrey P. Megargee, Inside Hitler's High Command. Although a bit harsh at times, it is a well-researched study and for the most part I find it difficult to quarrel with his analysis. I just checked at Amazon.com and it's $25 in paperback. Not bad for an academic study.

Re: sources

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 8:35 pm
by U2
Originally posted by Tuomas Seijavuori
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Sigh. Now I know how every Finnish-challenged person feels when they try to get their hands to really comprehensive account about Finland in WW2. I've got my local library full of excellent works which has never been translated to any other language. [/B]
Hi

I know what you mean Tuomas. There are tons of books about the Second World War in japanese that I cant gain access to because of the langauge barrier. Not only about that war but Japanese history in general. Getting bored with reading english speaking authors and their views. Luckily there are some fantastic American scolars on Japanese history so I will survive:)
Dan

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 3:41 pm
by HARD_SARGE
Hi Jennifer

Since Hard_Sarge will no doubt (and quite justifiably) take me to task for once again wandering so far from UV

nay, I would not take you to task, it is a good area to talk about

besides, you know too many big words, and even worse, big words in Germen, while I have to use as many small words as I can, so you are very safe from any hassles from me

besides you got a avatar, and I don't :(

HARD_Sarge


250 ? wow, my top book was 50 something, and now nobody can find it, got too many and nowhere to put them

How not to get an avatar

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 3:59 pm
by mogami
Die Nächte, die Affen fliegen, halten mich wach und bedecken mich mit Käse, wenn ich gehe zu schlafen .

Re: How not to get an avatar

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 4:39 pm
by IMJennifer
Originally posted by Mogami
Die Nächte, die Affen fliegen, halten mich wach und bedecken mich mit Käse, wenn ich gehe zu schlafen .
Hmmmm.... Okay:

Wenn es eine Freude ist das Gute zu geniessen, so ist es eine grössere das Bessere zu empfinden, und in der Kunst is das Beste gut genug!

-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (Italienische Reise)

:) Jennifer

Just to add another grognard trait to the list...skepticism.

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 4:52 pm
by Ron Saueracker
Wow!!!!!!!! IMJennifer sounds so hot. :cool: The avatar is a nice touch, too. However...."Rural Wisconsin" and "20th Century German Strategic Thought" seem to lie a little bit too far within the juristiction of NO WAY LAND. Could this be a grognard ploy? Is this an imposter?:p :eek:

Remember! If found to be a shpy, zee penalty is........death! I vill ask you zees questions vonce only!

Vat is your beer of choice?

Vat is your preferred fragrance?

Of published "wimmin" writers, whom do you prefer?

Who is your most favourite varrior on the glorious German National Socialist Soccer Team?

I vant answers!

:D

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:03 pm
by Ron Saueracker
I'm probably in caca now.:rolleyes: :)

LOL

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:05 pm
by mogami
Hallo, bringen eine grosse Gewehr wie Goethe heraus


Freude, schöner Götterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Freude, schöner Götterfunken!

Ron wheres my UV turn?


"20th Century German Strategic Thought"

"Fairy Land, just like fairy land" Duane Hoobler Breakfast of Champions, Kurt Vonnegut jr

(Grognard mode off)

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:18 pm
by U2
Hi folks

Some nice german for you here. Its a bedtime story for german kids to scare them to sleep during the 30-year war. For those of you who know your history this was a long time ago.

"Bet Kindchen, bet, morgen kommt der Schwed"

Its funny!:D

Dan

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:23 pm
by Admiral DadMan
**Groan**

Now I'm having flashbacks to my High School German class...

and I quickly realize that I've forgotten too much to write what I'm thinking...

Mogami

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:28 pm
by Ron Saueracker
UV PBEM. Have been trying to get a problem with Bosun sorted out. Had to reinstall UV from scratch. I'll send one tonight and lots this weekend. Same for U2. and Crocky. Don't you guys have enough to keep you busy. I know the potato chip comparison.:D

Scary German poem

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:30 pm
by mogami
Hallo
Ist hier, warum ich nie schlafe,
Mein Haar ist auf Feuer
Insekte leben innerhalb meines Kopfes
Ist, das es, die keine Musik?
denke ich sie bin Geräusche
Bewachung heraus.

Re: Mogami

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:32 pm
by U2
Originally posted by Ron Saueracker
UV PBEM. Have been trying to get a problem with Bosun sorted out. Had to reinstall UV from scratch. I'll send one tonight and lots this weekend. Same for U2. and Crocky. Don't you guys have enough to keep you busy. I know the potato chip comparison.:D
Hi Ron

Great to hear! But we have not talked about sides, scenario and settings yet. Drop me an email at daniel.patocka@swipnet.se
Dont drink too much on Canada Day;)
Dan

4 way?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:37 pm
by mogami
Hi, Prehaps this game could be set up as the first 4 way (2 players per side)
Scen 17 (only one with 2 clear dividing lines)

Sounds great but how?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:44 pm
by Ron Saueracker
I'll try anything.

Re: Sounds great but how?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:45 pm
by U2
Originally posted by Ron Saueracker
I'll try anything.

I'm not sure how it works either.
Dan

4 way

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:52 pm
by Admiral DadMan
I imagine you'd have to do it as a round-robin sort of thing:

Players 1 and 2 are Japan, Players 3 and 4 are Allied.

Player 1 makes his moves, sends save game file to player 2.

Player 2 makes his moves, and completes the PBEM process to send to Player 3.

Player 3 makes his moves, saves, and sends to player 4.

Player 4 makes his moves, ends turn, and sends appropriate files to Player 1

So, Players 2 and 4 are the ones to be doing the sending part, players 1 and 3 do the recieving parts. I haven't done PBEM yet, so I don't have the particulars.

4 way UV

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:54 pm
by mogami
Hi, First find four insane people who own UV
next pick team 2 Japan 2 Allies
1st Japan moves his units etc save (not ends) turn and send to 2nd Japan (who keeps his paws off 1st Japans stuff) he makes his orders and ends turn who sends to first Allied, who passes to 2nd Allied who gives orders and ends turn sending file to 1st Japan. (2nd Japan and both Allied would need to watch replay every turn starting on turn 2)