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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:14 am
by timmyab
Oh my god, love it.
You've done an even better job than I thought.He is so screwed.

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:18 am
by TulliusDetritus
ORIGINAL: Marquo

In the Sw you can reestablish supply, get out of isolation and isolate him with 2 simple moves - but do not forget that isolation/supply is reecalcualted when/if he acts duing his turn, so he will break out and be in pretty good shape during his turn. It is good to "glom" his panzers - place them in a ZOC.

Encircling and causing surrender requires patience - at least 2 moves; here you have bought at least one extra move. 

Yes, I know. I will be hugging many panzers here (which will be isolated). I still think he should bag some (if not all) units of my Lvov salient. We will see
ORIGINAL: cookie monster

I just garrisoned Odessa with 2 Divs and the Airborne Corps HQ. They took 6 German divisions to be defeated. The forts were at level 4.

They took massive double retreat attrition though on the 'naval evacuation rout'. I didn't wanna waste the Coastal Army on it. This HQ is commanding the Crimean entrance defenders.

Are you gonna allow reinforcements to your Cavalry? I only allow a few to become 100% TOE. They are useful for re-making contact with pocketed defenders. Plus they can deliberate attack and then get back to their forts.

You must bomb Ploesti and tell us all the results!

Well, the 51st Army protects Crimea (it appears there). I guess I will be using the Coastal Army HQ + 2 Rifle Divisions to garrison Odessa (like on my other game).

Hmmm, I don't think I will be bombing Ploesti. I think it's sort of gamey [8D] That's STRATEGIC bombing. And both the Germans (ok, they bombed British cities with tactical bombers) and Soviets did not have strategic bombers. So a big NO. Fair Play [:)]

As for the reinforcements for my cavalry. Well, I also didn't pay attention to this on my other game [:D] Hmm, let's see: the cavalry units give you MOBILITY aka the possiblity of creating a big mess [8D] Therefore I guess the cavalrymen will get fresh recruits like everyone else.

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:22 am
by TulliusDetritus
ORIGINAL: timmyab

Oh my god, love it.
You've done an even better job than I thought.He is so screwed.

I hope you're correct! [&o] I must save Leningrad at all cost! [8D]

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:25 am
by TulliusDetritus
ORIGINAL: Marquo
Encircling and causing surrender requires patience - at least 2 moves; here you have bought at least one extra move. 

I know, Marquo. It also requires STAVKA reserves, which I don't have yet. But maybe... humm... who knows...

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:32 am
by TulliusDetritus
Ok, The Boss is in charge [&o]

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:35 am
by Klydon
Really surprised at what 2ndACR is doing here. I don't know what he is thinking, but I guess next turn will tell if there is a method to his madness. 

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:44 am
by TulliusDetritus
Me too, Klydon [&:] I am trying to think what might appear. The Panzers are already isolated in this forward front line. What's left behind them? The infantry, but they need a few turns to catch up...

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:03 pm
by timmyab
Looks like Totenkopf and that panzer division to the south will have to ride to the rescue.He should be O.K. just about, but I bet he wont be charging into your positions like that again.Be a bit wary of trying to destroy any units left isolated at the end of his turn unless you have overwhelming odds.It can be dangerous to have your best divisions left out in exposed positions with nothing to show for it when they could be all safe and cosy in their dugouts.

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:13 pm
by TulliusDetritus
We'll kill everything on our path in the Southwestern Front [8D] Or die for that matter [:D]

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:40 pm
by Josh
Oh wow, he will *not* be pleased with that situation. It's tough as it is to close that gap, let alone close it twice. That's gonna keep his Panzers busy for a while...

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:13 pm
by TulliusDetritus
ORIGINAL: Josh

Oh wow, he will *not* be pleased with that situation. It's tough as it is to close that gap, let alone close it twice. That's gonna keep his Panzers busy for a while...

That's the spirit! [&o] And the panzers north of this small pocket will too be isolated. I have almost done my turn. The first turns are overwhelming.

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:24 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Alright, already finished in the Southwestern Thing.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:01 pm
by TulliusDetritus
And the Western Front (98,34 % done?). His Northern Panzer Army will be isolated. The southern panzers are ok. The STAVKA strategic reserves are arriving... the Dnper is covered [8D]

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:07 pm
by cookie monster
AMAZING. I thought Flaviusx was good, but now your the GURU of all Soviet Forces.

You are doing what nobody else can do, stopping Super Summer Axis Supermen.[:D]

Against multiple players!

Congrats...But seriously I hope the game gets better, the last one was painful,

this opening is awful, you cant even do that against the AI

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:12 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Nah

I am really an average player [:)] I just have a plan and stick to it. And of course I more or less understood the rules (not always [:D]). I'm doing (in the center) what the Soviets did

AND my opponent will have to move. The whole thing might crumble like a castle of cards. I hope it doesn't though!

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:25 pm
by Aurelian
There is a Hero of the Soviet Union medal in your future.

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:38 pm
by TulliusDetritus
ORIGINAL: Aurelian

There is a Hero of the Soviet Union medal in your future.

That, I know. I'm the USSR Boss ergo the one who gives such medals [8D] I want TWO by the way [:D]

Well, I too have bought RR Brigades (thanks again for the tip, Cookie Monster and Alfonso [&o]) and Sapper Bns. As I said above ALL the STAVKA reserve armies (n the center that is: 16, 19, 20, 21, 22 and 24 armies) got them. The 8th in the NW too. And the 5th in the SW. On the next turn I will be assigning good leaders to these STAVKA reserve armies: Vatutin, etc. [8D]

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:50 pm
by Encircled
*wrong thread, in fact, wrong page!*

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:00 pm
by Pipewrench
ORIGINAL: Aurelian

There is a Hero of the Soviet Union medal in your future.

totally agree
love the maps and the detail in your posts.

your going to quickly have to think of a name for your counterstoke operation as it deserves a name.


RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:06 pm
by alfonso
One thing I like to do is to "see" as much as possible, in order to know at least where are their Panzer and Motorized Divisions. Therefore I recon since turn 1. Having my divisions "touching" theirs helps: besides, that "kissing" fatigues their Divisions (less MP). It seems you are doing the same here.

As I want to know his plans, I take (about turn 3 or 4) a piece of paper and a pencil, and I take note of their mobile divisions (North to South). Then I check this list against the German OOB at turn 1, to detect (well, try to detect) if there has been a transfer of units between Army Groups. If I , for instance, detect that Army Group Centre has given some Panzer Divs to AG North, I would assume that maybe he wants Leningrad yes or yes, and I could react accordingly.

I like also to use the preformed forts of the old Stalin-line, but in the South this tends (for me) to end in semi-catatrophe...so I am curious about how are you going to deal with the melee in the south