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Yes, we can buy the base game to try out but there's a higher probability of failure as well since there are nice additions in the expansions.

failure? lol, just buy the game. It's cheaper than a tank of gas for my truck.

I arrived here from RPS for some more info on the game, LOL'd at the pricing structure.

I'll just leave this here http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/24/less-is-more-gabe-newell-on-game-pricing/

ORIGINAL: jomni

Yes, we can buy the base game to try out but there's a higher probability of failure as well since there are nice additions in the expansions.

The expansions all add lots of nice things, but the Base game is still going to let you see if you like the structure of the game or not. In fact, while playing the original, you could even post here on the forums asking if certain things that you like/dislike have been adressed in the expansions. The community here is more than willing to answer any and all questions as many times as people are willing to ask them.

If you really, really don't like the original DW (patched all the way up, of course!) then chances are you won't like the expansions either. But then again, if the expansions really do add that extra "kick" for you to enjoy the game, that's what the forums are for.

Hi kafiend,

Thanks, I've read that one in the past. With much respect to Gabe Newell, niche markets often have interesting effects on marketing laws that apply elsewhere. There's a lot of data we have that directly contradicts the new conventional wisdom in this regard. Counter-strike's potential untapped audience and promotion response is completely different from that of many other games.

Regards,

- Erik

I can't buy this game. I don't have so much money. I will be wait pirate version. MatrixGames take 0 roubles.
If this game 600 roubles - i buy it. MatrixGames take 600 roubles.
Low price kill pirates. When Steam begin sell games on roubles with low price (3 month ago?) i buy ~10 games. But i already play this games at pirate version.

Hi sem.maxim,

This is not the place to discuss piracy. I accept your point that if you are unable to purchase the game, we will receive no money. However, pricing the game to make it affordable in every market for every budget is not something we can do at this time.

Regards,

- Erik

I'd like to echo what a lot of people have said in this thread. I also discovered Distant Worlds via the news on rockpapershotgun.com about the Legends expansion but I couldn't believe the price. £53.68 is insanely high and an immediate turn-off for anybody interested in taking a risk on something that looks interesting, especially considering there's no demo. I've bought a ton of indie games this year and they have on the whole been more enjoyable than "traditional" titles, but they have also been priced in such a way to entice the curious rather than turn them away.

Bought this year alone: AI War + Expansions, Anomaly: Warzone Earth, Bastion, The Binding of Isaac, Dungeons of Dredmor, Frozen Synapse, Jamestown, Magicka, Revenge of the Titans, Space Pirates and Zombies, SpaceChem, StarRuler, Terraria.

Those are just the ones I saw in a quick scan of my currently installed games on steam alone. Every single one of them for less than £15 and some of them for a lot less, sub £5 in some cases. Now, it's obvious that an enormous amount more development time went into a deep, complex game such as Distant Worlds than say, The Binding of Isaac. However, some are comparable, like StarRuler and AI War (which is itself available as a complete package from Matrix Games for less than £20.) I think you're missing a very large amount of potential sales. If the game suddenly showed up on steam as a complete package for £15 I think you'd be surprised at the results. Under those circumstances I wouldn't think twice about grabbing it. How many other people like me (and the others in this thread) are out there?

They use a different model. Maybe less volume on higher prices. It works for them.

Speaking of AI war- the lead designer/developer said on the ARCEN company forum that at sale prices he makes more money than when he sells them at regular prices on Steam. It gets many folks who only would buy an item on sale- they may or may not play the game seriously.

The players here would rather pay more to support the developers and avoid the giveaway model.

Myself, I fall between both camps. I buy and support for those games I really want. I then use the Steam sales to buy items I might not purchase otherwise and who knows I might get something that I like. In a sense it supports those developers who would not see my money at all, otherwise.

I think its £46 for DW, RotS and Legends, not £53.68.  Not entirely sure, but I *think*.

ORIGINAL: sem.maxim

I can't buy this game. I don't have so much money. I will be wait pirate version. MatrixGames take 0 roubles.
If this game 600 roubles - i buy it. MatrixGames take 600 roubles.
Low price kill pirates. When Steam begin sell games on roubles with low price (3 month ago?) i buy ~10 games. But i already play this games at pirate version.

And you are the reason 90% of the game companies slap draconian DRM on everything. Matrix feel free to place a time bomb that wipes out pirate copies computer. Just please make sure it does not goof up and clobber me by mistake.

The price on download for the complete set, for me, in Australia was $70 and some cents. That is a premium price and I was reluctant to pay it. But I am now glad that I did. Like many of the posters I have been 'burned' by other games which have failed to live up to their hype and I will never play again after the first week or month. I won't name names but it has happened several times this year, and several times last year, and...

What I want is a quality game and for that I am willing to pay a premium price. Distant Worlds - Legends, at least thus far lives up to this. It is already the best game I have got this century, and may well make the top of my all time list if it keeps going where it seems to be headed...

Having paid a premium price I want, no I demand, a quality product. So far CodeForce and Matrix are more than delivering on their end of the bargain. Is this what you want? I don't know. [8D]