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RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:41 am
by martok
ORIGINAL: Perturabo

I'm planning to make a realistic wargame set in a steampunk fantasy setting.

This is one of those times when the internet makes it difficult to tell if you're saying that with a straight face or tongue-in-cheek...



RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:00 pm
by wodin
ORIGINAL: Perturabo

I'm planning to make a realistic wargame set in a steampunk fantasy setting.

I like the sound of that. Joke or no joke.

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:23 pm
by Lieste
ORIGINAL: martok

ORIGINAL: Perturabo

I'm planning to make a realistic wargame set in a steampunk fantasy setting.

This is one of those times when the internet makes it difficult to tell if you're saying that with a straight face or tongue-in-cheek...



He means it.

19th Century vibe with Orks, but with reasonable weapon types/ranges/tactics, rather than totally bodged Warhammer 40K style ground/move/time/weapon scales.

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:55 pm
by doomtrader
And what about the mythical setting where Greeks actually managed to create steam machines? (I have read couple of times they were pretty close to that, like 50-100 years).

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:03 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: doomtrader

And what about the mythical setting where Greeks actually managed to create steam machines? (I have read couple of times they were pretty close to that, like 50-100 years).
Warspite1

I can only repeat Martok's comment from earlier.....

This is one of those times when the internet makes it difficult to tell if you're saying that with a straight face or tongue-in-cheek...


RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:52 pm
by Perturabo
ORIGINAL: doomtrader

And what about the mythical setting where Greeks actually managed to create steam machines? (I have read couple of times they were pretty close to that, like 50-100 years).
I think they'd need machine tools to make any sensible use of it and machine tools were invented in the late Medieval and the Enlightenment period.
ORIGINAL: martok
ORIGINAL: Perturabo

I'm planning to make a realistic wargame set in a steampunk fantasy setting.

This is one of those times when the internet makes it difficult to tell if you're saying that with a straight face or tongue-in-cheek...
Low magic fantasy like Tolkien's but with 1870s stasis instead of medieval stasis. Gameplay realistic within the assumptions of the setting. So, there would be elves and orcs and some magical items but no RTS-style combat, no instant communications, no stuff that breaks laws of physics unless it's magical, etc.
Technology would be limited to stuff that is still physically feasible - that is land tinclads and ironclads would be in, but no steampunk mecha.

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 11:55 pm
by wodin
Shadowrun has a similar vibe I think.

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:02 am
by Perturabo
ORIGINAL: wodin

Shadowrun has a similar vibe I think.
Practically every fantasy setting is about combination of magic and technology.

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:28 am
by wodin
Hawkmoon by Moorcock is a book you'd love.

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:46 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Perturabo

I'm planning to make a realistic wargame set in a steampunk fantasy setting.
Warspite1

Can I ask how the words in bold work together in that sentence? [&:]

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:41 pm
by doomtrader
I think he was talking about realistic results of fantasy actions.

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 5:45 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: doomtrader

I think he was talking about realistic results of fantasy actions.
Warspite1

doomtrader - how would you know if its fantasy? [X(]

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 6:44 pm
by Perturabo
ORIGINAL: wodin

Hawkmoon by Moorcock is a book you'd love.
I have read two books from the series. Quite enjoyable. Especially stuff like Granbritain. Sadly, there isn't 3rd tome in libraries in my city. Anyway, I was inspired by Moorecock's Elric Saga. I had finished reading it and I wanted to play something with elves. So, I decided to make a fantasy mod for Armored Brigade. There's a link to its subforum in my sig.
ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Perturabo

I'm planning to make a realistic wargame set in a steampunk fantasy setting.
Warspite1

Can I ask how the words in bold work together in that sentence? [&:]
ORIGINAL: Perturabo

Gameplay realistic within the assumptions of the setting. So, there would be elves and orcs and some magical items but no RTS-style combat, no instant communications, no stuff that breaks laws of physics unless it's magical, etc.
Technology would be limited to stuff that is still physically feasible - that is land tinclads and ironclads would be in, but no steampunk mecha.

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 6:47 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Perturabo
ORIGINAL: wodin

Hawkmoon by Moorcock is a book you'd love.
I have read two books from the series. Quite enjoyable. Especially stuff like Granbritain. Sadly, there isn't 3rd tome in libraries in my city. Anyway, I was inspired by Moorecock's Elric Saga. I had finished reading it and I wanted to play something with elves. So, I decided to make a fantasy mod for Armored Brigade. There's a link to its subforum in my sig.
ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Perturabo

I'm planning to make a realistic wargame set in a steampunk fantasy setting.
Warspite1

Can I ask how the words in bold work together in that sentence? [&:]
ORIGINAL: Perturabo

Gameplay realistic within the assumptions of the setting. So, there would be elves and orcs and some magical items but no RTS-style combat, no instant communications, no stuff that breaks laws of physics unless it's magical, etc.
Technology would be limited to stuff that is still physically feasible - that is land tinclads and ironclads would be in, but no steampunk mecha.
Warspite1

But surely, everything and nothing is then realistic if it uses magic? Or am I thinking about this too much?

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:13 pm
by Perturabo
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Perturabo
ORIGINAL: wodin

Hawkmoon by Moorcock is a book you'd love.
I have read two books from the series. Quite enjoyable. Especially stuff like Granbritain. Sadly, there isn't 3rd tome in libraries in my city. Anyway, I was inspired by Moorecock's Elric Saga. I had finished reading it and I wanted to play something with elves. So, I decided to make a fantasy mod for Armored Brigade. There's a link to its subforum in my sig.
ORIGINAL: warspite1


Warspite1

Can I ask how the words in bold work together in that sentence? [&:]
ORIGINAL: Perturabo

Gameplay realistic within the assumptions of the setting. So, there would be elves and orcs and some magical items but no RTS-style combat, no instant communications, no stuff that breaks laws of physics unless it's magical, etc.
Technology would be limited to stuff that is still physically feasible - that is land tinclads and ironclads would be in, but no steampunk mecha.
Warspite1

But surely, everything and nothing is then realistic if it uses magic? Or am I thinking about this too much?
An example from RPG game:
In a non-realistic game, someone hits your character with a morning star. The character loses 20 hit points and that's all. Even if you don't have access to medical aid, you can walk with half of hit-points and rest and regain hit-points.

In a realistic game, someone hits your character with a morning star, the character has, let's say a cracked ribs and internal bleeding. He can't act for a while due to shock. After a few rounds of combat he collapses due to blood loss. Even if he somehow survives the combat, without medical aid he'll die. Due to tech level there probably isn't adequate level of medicine to stop internal bleeding. I mean this kind of realism. Just because it's a fantasy world, it doesn't mean that ordinary, non-magical stuff doesn't work like in our world.

And then there's the fantasy element in form of magic. There may be for example a priest with several "cure wounds" spells. There's a Cure Critical Wounds spell that can mend broken bones, fix ruptured internal organs and stuff like that.

RE: Request to Any Developers..

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:18 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Perturabo
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Perturabo


I have read two books from the series. Quite enjoyable. Especially stuff like Granbritain. Sadly, there isn't 3rd tome in libraries in my city. Anyway, I was inspired by Moorecock's Elric Saga. I had finished reading it and I wanted to play something with elves. So, I decided to make a fantasy mod for Armored Brigade. There's a link to its subforum in my sig.



Warspite1

But surely, everything and nothing is then realistic if it uses magic? Or am I thinking about this too much?
An example from RPG game:
In a non-realistic game, someone hits your character with a morning star. The character loses 20 hit points and that's all. Even if you don't have access to medical aid, you can walk with half of hit-points and rest and regain hit-points.

In a realistic game, someone hits your character with a morning star, the character has, let's say a cracked ribs and internal bleeding. He can't act for a while due to shock. After a few rounds of combat he collapses due to blood loss. Even if he somehow survives the combat, without medical aid he'll die. Due to tech level there probably isn't adequate level of medicine to stop internal bleeding. I mean this kind of realism. Just because it's a fantasy world, it doesn't mean that ordinary, non-magical stuff doesn't work like in our world.

And then there's the fantasy element in form of magic. There may be for example a priest with several "cure wounds" spells. There's a Cure Critical Wounds spell that can mend broken bones, fix ruptured internal organs and stuff like that.
Warspite1

Okay Perturabo -I'll leave it there as I don't want it to sound like I'm belittling your ideas and thoughts. I don't really get it but that's just me; fantasy stuff is not my bag. Love that word "Steampunk" though [&o]