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RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 3:42 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Of course, reliable and meaningful male-to-female communication is patently impossible, so that won't help there.
Poppycock!! All you amateurs in here. (Shakes head.)
Today is my first anniverdary with my bride, Girl of the Prairie. I got her flowers, which is what she said she wanted, and she got me a new toilet seat, which is what I wanted. Told her so, weeks ago. She listened, she bought one of Wisconsin's finest, and she will even install it for me.
Communication is easy. Just say what you think. [:'(]
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 4:10 pm
by Apollo11
Hi all,
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
The United States had the same problem. A lot of reosurces are spent on "Cockpit Resource Management" We have two very famious accidents. One is the flight engineer and co-pilot let the Captain drive a L1011 into the swamps .. the other is even more interesting .. a "junior" ex F15 pilot with 10,000 hours is sitting in the right seat and a "senior" newbie from the Commuters is sitting in the left seat ..
Florida flight 90 .. "Larry Larry we're stalling" "I know! I know!"
I remember reading the official NTSB reports for those two... ahhh...
BTW, how much do you guys believe in reconstructions of those (and other accidents) depicted in "Mayday" (also known as "Air Crash Investigation") TV shows?
Leo "Apollo11"
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 5:30 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Communication is easy. Just say what you think. [:'(]
Alright, Mr. expert communicator: I'm thinking the following thought, "Why did Bullwinkle not have a toilet seat until his wife bought him one as an anniversary present?" I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that your wife didn't purchase a
used toilet seat for you.
Dude. [:-]
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 5:58 pm
by Crackaces
ORIGINAL: Apollo11
Hi all,
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
The United States had the same problem. A lot of reosurces are spent on "Cockpit Resource Management" We have two very famious accidents. One is the flight engineer and co-pilot let the Captain drive a L1011 into the swamps .. the other is even more interesting .. a "junior" ex F15 pilot with 10,000 hours is sitting in the right seat and a "senior" newbie from the Commuters is sitting in the left seat ..
Florida flight 90 .. "Larry Larry we're stalling" "I know! I know!"
I remember reading the official NTSB reports for those two... ahhh...
BTW, how much do you guys believe in reconstructions of those (and other accidents) depicted in "Mayday" (also known as "Air Crash Investigation") TV shows?
Leo "Apollo11"
Sometimes those shows go into melodrama rather than facts. But NoVA, and the Book Blind Trust by John Nance I would endorse. The book I think is an excellent read for non-avaiation types as well as those in the know of how imporant cockpit crew resource management relates to catestrophic incidents.
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 6:52 pm
by witpqs
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Communication is easy. Just say what you think. [:'(]
Alright, Mr. expert communicator: I'm thinking the following thought, "Why did Bullwinkle not have a toilet seat until his wife bought him one as an anniversary present?" I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that your wife didn't purchase a
used toilet seat for you.
Dude. [:-]
Dude! You're a veterinarian, OK, you specialize in chickens but have you ever even heard of a moose using a toilet? She was probably thrilled that he wanted to start. Bathing comes next, I suppose. [:'(]
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:00 pm
by CapnGreasy
I remember the ship I was currently on, either Belleau Wood or Tarawa, staying at Yokuska while training up on Camp Fuji (Yum Fuji burgers!) The Midway was still in service and home ported there. 1980's and this was the Midway from WWII. Sure its hull looked like a beat up used car, with a good coat of paint, but all the sailors talked how the Japanese had kept it running all those years.
The point I wanted to state was that right after morning colors the ship would become very noisy from all the work being performed. At a certain time each day the noise would cease just like throwing a switch, it was lunchtime. About an hour later all the noise starts right back up like someone hit the switch again.
And if anyone was able to make a large purchase at the PX and needed help carrying stereo equipment up onto the ship (exchange rate was really good prior to their recession) some guys that don't even speak English would jump in and help carry it.
I never heard work stop and start so precisely anywhere before or since, unless my wife really needed something!!!
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 11:15 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Communication is easy. Just say what you think. [:'(]
Alright, Mr. expert communicator: I'm thinking the following thought, "Why did Bullwinkle not have a toilet seat until his wife bought him one as an anniversary present?" I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that your wife didn't purchase a
used toilet seat for you.
Dude. [:-]
The old one looked like it had been worked over by a Wisconsin . . .wolverine. New one, nice.
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 4:39 pm
by AW1Steve
She bought you a TOLIET SEAT for your anniversary? Is that her way of saying that your relationship is in "the crapper"? Or that you are Full of it (and needing a seat?). ?[&:][:D] Nice to see that romance is not dead! [:D]
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 4:41 pm
by AW1Steve
And of course every good old time American sailor knows that after he says "aye,aye sir" , he under his breath mutters, "three bags full sir". [:D]
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:17 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
She bought you a TOLIET SEAT for your anniversary? Is that her way of saying that your relationship is in "the crapper"? Or that you are Full of it (and needing a seat?). ?[&:][:D] Nice to see that romance is not dead! [:D]
She bought me a toilet seat. It was not only an anniversary, it was our first anniversary. She bought it because I asked her to. It's what I wanted. I assure you the romance is not dead, although in the romance department the seat is not a participant. (That would just be wrong.)
I just laugh at all the posters on this here forum who seem to have no luck talking to women, or are scared of their wives, or who wish they weren't married, etc. I've never had trouble communicating with women, back to 16-YO. Women are easy. They'll actually talk to you instead of grunt and scratch. The problem isn't in them not talking, it's in men not listening. The content is there. If you don't get it, keep digging until you do. I've found they'll usually help.
We give each other presents all the time, but in our entire relationship I've given her jewelry twice, and once was a wedding ring. She'd rather have tools.
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:18 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
And of course every good old time American sailor knows that after he says "aye,aye sir" , he under his breath mutters, "three bags full sir". [:D]
Well, the "aye, aye" does not preclude a white mutiny, although the rocks and shoals of sea lawyering must be kept in mind.
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:30 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I just laugh at all the posters on this here forum who seem to have no luck talking to women, or are scared of their wives, or who wish they weren't married, etc. I've never had trouble communicating with women, back to 16-YO. Women are easy. They'll actually talk to you instead of grunt and scratch. The problem isn't in them not talking, it's in men not listening. The content is there. If you don't get it, keep digging until you do. I've found they'll usually help.
Bull,
I would venture that the vast majority of those that post that they are 'scared' of their wives do so in jest. Most of us are very happily married (I'm going on 16 years this year) , love the pleasure of their spouse's company, but like to kid about the idiosyncratic communication between long-term married couples. Just a bit of funnin'.
My experience is that people that communicate well in general can do so with both sexes with some time and effort.
But still-congrats on the toilet seat. Use it well.
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:49 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
But still-congrats on the toilet seat. Use it well.
It's a beaut.
Long time since I was in the toilet seat segment of the economy. Apparently they've gone to slow-close pneumatic pistons or something. You can't slam it anymore. It just receeds sloooowly into the south as it were, landing in silence after you're already back upstairs raiding the icebox.
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:08 pm
by Chickenboy
The Public Health side of me hopes that there's a hand-washing step in there somewhere between the lid recession and the icebox raiding. [;)]
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:11 pm
by LoBaron
A very interesting path to offtopicness I have to say. From the Japanese version of "Aye, aye, sir" to a toilet seat present and women?
Wouldn´t it be "yes ma´am" in this case? Or the version thereof Lord sprior suggests, in case anybody is crazy enough to risk it? [:D]
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:54 pm
by khyberbill
And of course every good old time American sailor knows that after he says "aye,aye sir" , he under his breath mutters, "three bags full sir".
In six years in the Navy I never once heard "aye aye sir" between an enlisted man and an officer. I doubt if I heard it between officers, because if I had, I would have laughed so hard that I would have been brought up on charges.
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:28 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
The Public Health side of me hopes that there's a hand-washing step in there somewhere between the lid recession and the icebox raiding. [;)]
Fighting germs makes you stronger. Soap is for wimps.
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:31 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: LoBaron
A very interesting path to offtopicness I have to say. From the Japanese version of "Aye, aye, sir" to a toilet seat present and women?
Wouldn´t it be "yes ma´am" in this case? Or the version thereof Lord sprior suggests, in case anybody is crazy enough to risk it? [:D]
I've heard fourth-hand that there is a cultural segue underway in the US military which may already be included in regs. That is on the subject of addressing femal eofficers. In my day it was correct to use "Ma'am", but I've been told that we've adopted th eBattlestar Galictica convention of everybody getting a "Sir" regardless of gender. Any active duty folks can confirm?
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:33 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: khyberbill
And of course every good old time American sailor knows that after he says "aye,aye sir" , he under his breath mutters, "three bags full sir".
In six years in the Navy I never once heard "aye aye sir" between an enlisted man and an officer. I doubt if I heard it between officers, because if I had, I would have laughed so hard that I would have been brought up on charges.
I guess we were in differnt naves. I heard it a couple of hundred times a week standing watch in the control room. If a helmsman had responded to a rudder order with "Yes, sir" he would have been relieved on the spot. "Aye, sir" has the same legal import as "aye aye, sir" and is also just as different as "Yes, sir."
RE: "Aye,aye,sir.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:46 pm
by AW1Steve
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: LoBaron
A very interesting path to offtopicness I have to say. From the Japanese version of "Aye, aye, sir" to a toilet seat present and women?
Wouldn´t it be "yes ma´am" in this case? Or the version thereof Lord sprior suggests, in case anybody is crazy enough to risk it? [:D]
I've heard fourth-hand that there is a cultural segue underway in the US military which may already be included in regs. That is on the subject of addressing femal eofficers. In my day it was correct to use "Ma'am", but I've been told that we've adopted th eBattlestar Galictica convention of everybody getting a "Sir" regardless of gender. Any active duty folks can confirm?
I'm no longer active , but my JAG spouse still is. Sir to a woman will get you a raised eyebrow, but no reprimand. Ma'am is still accepted. The exception would be in "formal" usage. Such as "I relieve you sir"", regardless of sex.
And as an Airdale, we didn't use "aye, aye sir" in dailey usage, but would definately use it in formal usage. Like at a Captain's mast. Or a change of command. Or even in a change of duty such as SDO or ASDO. (I once condensed "I stand relived sir" into a split second. As I was turning over the duty, the red "crash phone" rang. The look of panic in the eyes of the oncoming watch was wonderful![:D]).