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RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:19 am
by janh
Amazing to see how Saper manages this advance. Tula and Stalino, almost Voroshilovgrad in a mere 9 weeks. Really lets the old Wehrmacht dudes look like total idiots not to have feasted in Moscow by early September...
ORIGINAL: Pelton
Right hook strikes again, I have only seen it stopped once in the post 1.06.11 AAR's. My game vs MT.
Well, you kind of announced it to Michael, to be honest -- you used in every recent game before it, and in that game concentrated everything on that one card without even attempting to cover it up. Having essentially had no other Panzer Army threats to face elsewhere, Michael was allowed to pull together everything useful to stop you in the possibly very best defensive terrain on the whole map...
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:37 am
by Peltonx
ORIGINAL: janh
Amazing to see how Saper manages this advance. Tula and Stalino, almost Voroshilovgrad in a mere 9 weeks. Really lets the old Wehrmacht dudes look like total idiots not to have feasted in Moscow by early September...
ORIGINAL: Pelton
Right hook strikes again, I have only seen it stopped once in the post 1.06.11 AAR's. My game vs MT.
Well, you kind of announced it to Michael, to be honest -- you used in every recent game before it, and in that game concentrated everything on that one card without even attempting to cover it up. Having essentially had no other Panzer Army threats to face elsewhere, Michael was allowed to pull together everything useful to stop you in the possibly very best defensive terrain on the whole map...
vs the better SHC players Leningrad and Moscow are not possible. Its how you exploit the system that matters, the old hoophole thing.
Same goes for Sappers advance, you exploit the logistics system.
You find a loophole and drive an army gruop through it.
Kinda been the story of the game from day one.
Sappers exploit will be gone next patch.
Is it skill or just some poeple are better at playing in the grey area of the current rule set?
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:39 am
by Peltonx
ORIGINAL: sillyflower
ORIGINAL: Pelton
The airfield fuel exploit will open things up in my coming games,
Pelton -do you seriously intend to use it? It does not seem worthy of your skill, or worthy of anyone for that matter.
Only been stopped once. All depends on who you play and how good they are at playing the loopholes on the SHC side of things.
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:31 am
by carlkay58
The best and easiest way to stop the right hook is for the Soviets to fight the Finns in the north. Makes the right hook much harder to succeed with as the distance it has to travel becomes much greater.
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:58 pm
by Saper2229
ORIGINAL: carlkay58
The best and easiest way to stop the right hook is for the Soviets to fight the Finns in the north. Makes the right hook much harder to succeed with as the distance it has to travel becomes much greater.
This is delusion. The soviet have not forces to defend all fronts. You can see this in my games with M60A3TTS and Speedy.
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:02 pm
by Saper2229
T11
I have problem on supplay my troops, need assault fort line - slow move forward.
In North - closed pocket - 12-15 div.
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:05 pm
by Saper2229
Center - I make attempt to block 16 AP in Tula. Not reach Voronezh.
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:10 pm
by Saper2229
South - some prize - soviet lose 13 AP
Air losses - 76/115
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:21 pm
by Saper2229
ORIGINAL: Pelton
The airfield fuel exploit will open things up in my coming games, I do not see them fixing it until after witw release. Which means it will be around for atleast another 12 months.
I not used this. I use fist fly level and fly transport (no make units and airbase in one hex) - this is can used all gamer.
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:04 pm
by carlkay58
Saper222 - the Soviet defense against the Finns in the north does not require any more than the starting Soviets in the area. The Finns cannot move until GT 4 so all you need to do is slow them down another 5 or 6 turns up there and that will prevent the easy hook up for the right hook to work properly. It is too far of a distance for the Finns considering the terrain to make it down to the stop line to meet up with the Panzers. There are other ways for the right hook to succeed, but defending against the Finns and slowing them down takes the easiest ways away.
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:13 pm
by Saper2229
Germany no need make hand to hand with Finn - soflicient only cut out rail and Soviet units be have SP-1
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:19 pm
by Saper2229
12 T.
Soviet retreat all troops from North to Moscow. Germany win batlle for Leningrad without assault fort line!!!
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:21 pm
by Saper2229
MUD on North Soviet Zone - no move this.
Some move only South
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:26 pm
by Saper2229
T13
Slow move forvard. Take Tula and Voroshilovgrad.I finished company against a Soviet industry. 74 Arnament and 90 Heavy to destroy. Soviet remove all tank factory (only 3 unit) and aircraft (1 unit). Now I resupply my forces (bad supply - infantry have 8-9 MP - weather slay my supply!) and start company against Soviet Army.
Air losses - 98/268
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:58 pm
by Saper2229
T14-15
Assault fort line - Harrybanana have good defend. Small pocket on North
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:59 pm
by Saper2229
On Center - take Mozhaysk
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:01 pm
by Saper2229
On South - take Rostov
Air losses - 89/235
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:45 pm
by mevstedt
ORIGINAL: carlkay58
Saper222 - the Soviet defense against the Finns in the north does not require any more than the starting Soviets in the area. The Finns cannot move until GT 4 so all you need to do is slow them down another 5 or 6 turns up there and that will prevent the easy hook up for the right hook to work properly. It is too far of a distance for the Finns considering the terrain to make it down to the stop line to meet up with the Panzers. There are other ways for the right hook to succeed, but defending against the Finns and slowing them down takes the easiest ways away.
If you can reach the Svir with the germans just a bit east of the port you can affect the rail going north as well effectively making any troops left against the finns lose supply source as well.
No need to link up with the finns as Saper already said.
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:42 pm
by Saper2229
T16-18
Assault fort line on Moscow area. Very strong defend.
RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:43 pm
by Saper2229
No supply to move on Voronezh
