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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:56 pm
by Barny23
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Javelin speed
Mk1:708mph 616Kts at sea level 620mph 539kts at hight
Mk2:708Mph 616kts at sea level 620mph 539kts at hight
Mk4:702mph 610Kts at sea level 634mph 551kts at hight
Mk5:704mph 612kts at sea level 614mph 534kts at hight
Mk6:704mph 612kts at sea level 614mph 534kts at hight
Mk7:708mph 616kts at sea level 627mph 545kts at hight
Mk8:702mph 610Kts at sea level 614mph 534kts at hight
Mk9:702mph 610kts at sea level 614mph 534kts at hight

Max dive speed 1.08 mach=713mph at hight

44 Mk9R Fitted for Probe refueling no other Mks equiped. Some sources only 22 aircraft
Mk 9R Speed limit with probe -518mph 450kts

Ref:
Warpaint Series no 17 Gloster Javelin
Postwar Military Aircraft 01 Gloster Javelin
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk ... istory.php
http://www.airvectors.net/avjavlin.html
Profile publications no 179
Barny

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:50 am
by Barny23
Sea Vixen FAW 2
Retractable rocket packs : 2 Microcell unguided packs with 14 2in rockets - only FAW 1
not on FAW 2
Barny

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:38 pm
by Barny23
Hi .Sirius
This one is MIA- Beriev Be-10 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriev_Be-10
Can you please add this aircraft into CWDB
Barny






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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:29 am
by Broncepulido
I saw the WWII fighters (Me-109G-6, Spitfire, P-51) are rated with a Fighter Generation/Agility of 2 (apparently correct), but the mediocre Avia S-199 is rated with all his operators with a Fighter Generation/Agility of 4, I suppose is clearly an errour or typo.

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:05 pm
by .Sirius
Fixed
ORIGINAL: .Sirius

ORIGINAL: fool12342000

AAA Bty (90mm M1A1 x 4) and AAA Bty (90mm M117 x 4) can not attack surface target.
Hi there are dedicated AAA Weapons, I can look to see if they had a surface capability and if so will amend

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:06 pm
by .Sirius
Fixed
ORIGINAL: Broncepulido

I saw the WWII fighters (Me-109G-6, Spitfire, P-51) are rated with a Fighter Generation/Agility of 2 (apparently correct), but the mediocre Avia S-199 is rated with all his operators with a Fighter Generation/Agility of 4, I suppose is clearly an errour or typo.

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:07 pm
by .Sirius
Fixed
ORIGINAL: Barny

Sea Vixen FAW 2
Retractable rocket packs : 2 Microcell unguided packs with 14 2in rockets - only FAW 1
not on FAW 2
Barny

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:07 pm
by .Sirius
Semi Fixed
ORIGINAL: Barny

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Javelin speed
Mk1:708mph 616Kts at sea level 620mph 539kts at hight
Mk2:708Mph 616kts at sea level 620mph 539kts at hight
Mk4:702mph 610Kts at sea level 634mph 551kts at hight
Mk5:704mph 612kts at sea level 614mph 534kts at hight
Mk6:704mph 612kts at sea level 614mph 534kts at hight
Mk7:708mph 616kts at sea level 627mph 545kts at hight
Mk8:702mph 610Kts at sea level 614mph 534kts at hight
Mk9:702mph 610kts at sea level 614mph 534kts at hight

40 Mk9R Fitted for Probe refueling no other Mks equiped.
Ref:
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk ... istory.php
http://www.airvectors.net/avjavlin.html
Profile publications no 179
Barny

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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:08 pm
by .Sirius
Fixed
ORIGINAL: Barny

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Javelin Radar
MK 1-4-5-7-9 :A.I.17
MK 2-6-8 :A.I.22 (US radar AN/APG-43) slightly better performanc than A.I.17
Barny

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:08 pm
by .Sirius
Fixed
ORIGINAL: JAK63

hey guys, if this hasn't been asked for already the AN/APS-20 radar needs to have 'Surface Search' added to its abilities. This radar was carried by several asw/maritime search aircraft like the P-2 Neptune and CP-107 Argus.

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:08 pm
by .Sirius
Fixed
ORIGINAL: Barny

Hi .Sirius
90mm M1A1 used as a tank gun and antitank gun
Barny

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:09 pm
by .Sirius
Fixed and Amended
ORIGINAL: Barny

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Canberra B(I)Mk6 and B(I)Mk8 and their export Mks were the the only Cannon armed Canberras.
A ventral pack contaning 4 20mm guns was mounted in the rear bomb bay. When this pack was installed
only 3 1000lbs bombs were housed in the front bay.The wings were fitted with pylons for 2 1000 lbs bombs or
2 Microcell pods with 37 2in.rockets. No 3in rockets. Max loadout with guns 5 1000lb bombs - without guns 8.
No BMK8 was build; with 8 bombs it still was a B(I)Mk8
Max Speed 504kts
Barny

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:32 pm
by e2204588
RAF 250lb LDGP, RAF 500lb LDGP, and RAF 2000lb LDGP have minimum launch altitude 10m.


RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:04 pm
by e2204588
MK XVII has envelope 350 - 305 (Max < Min)

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:15 pm
by Broncepulido
Fleet Snorkel conversion submarines (and some data about GUPPY conversions):

Pakistan's PNS Ghazi (1964-1971)ex SS-479 USS Diablo, Tench-class, 28 torpedoes, classified erroneously in the DB as GUPPY IIA) and Spain's SNS Almirante Garcia de los Reyes (1959-1981)(ex SS-370 USS Kraken, Balao-class, 24 torpedoes) were both Fleet Snorkel conversions.

A complete listing of Fleet Snorkel and Guppies here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Un ... er_Program (some four years ago this Wikipedia entry was a lot shorter and less detailed, now the image of both conversions is clearer).
Some other details here (all the data also constrasted with Norman Polmar's "USS Submarines since 1945" and "Cold War Submarines"):
http://www.designed4submariners.com/Fle ... rsion.html
http://guppysubmarinetribute.homestead.com/Fleet.html

SNS S-31 Almirante Garcia de los Reyes:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarino_ ... yes_(S-31)
http://perso.wanadoo.es/pfcurto/s_31.html (with sensor listing, from 1975 with the BQR-2 passive sonar of the ill-fated S-33 Narciso Monturiol in an improvised installation on the deck, as show in the last photo. Previously to 1975 probably with SS-2 (radar),WLR-3 (ESM), BLR-6 (ESM), BQS-2 (active-passive), DUUG-1 (intercept) and BQR-3 (JT in dome, passive), Ghazi probably the same sensor fit, as considered below).

PNS Ghazi:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/383024/warr ... the-waves/ (as showed in the submarine model, if accurate, it was not present a chin-mounted, or in another place, BQR-2).

In short, The Fleet Snorkel conversion were conversion of fleet boats by far cheaper, slower, noisier and with poorer sensors than the more celebrated GUPPY conversions, developed to fulfil the number of "advanced" hunter-killer submarines requested by the US Navy, impossible with the expensive Guppies. The Fleet Snorkel keep the four original fast-running electric engines not replacing them by two quieter slow-running engines, as the Guppies, and her hull and sail are not so streamlined as in the Guppies. Also, it was at least two Fleet Snorkel main variants: an US Navy variant with the big German-derivative BQR-2 chin-mounted passive 48-elements sonar array (developed from the German Balkon-48), and other diverse austere variants for export, mainly for training submarine crews and employ the Fleet Snorkels as targets in ASW exercises in many allied navies, with simpler sensors, usually the BQR-3 passive sonar, an old wartime JT in a dome. And another main difference between Fleet Snorkel conversions is in a Tench-class Fleet Snorkel converted her torpedo capacity was 28 (as Ghazi case), not 24 as in the Gato and Balao-classes conversions (as Almirante Garcia de los Reyes case).

About the differences in maximum speeds,from many sources (test depth in all types 400 feet/122 meters,except some austere Fleet Snorkel and Guppy IB converted from Gato-class, 300 feet/90 meters):
Fleet Snorkel: surfaced 18 knots, submerged 8,75-10 knots.
Guppy I: surfaced 18 knots, submerged 18 knots.
Guppy IA/IB: surfaced 17 knots, submerged 15 knots.
Guppy II: surfaced 18 knots, submerged 17 knots.
Guppy IIA: surfaced 17 knots, submerged 14,1 knots.
Guppy III (all the nine boats conversion of Guppy II): surfaced 17 knots, submerged 15 knots. Capables of use Mk45 ASTOR nuclear torpedo, and with passive BQG-4 PUFFS (intercept) added.

Torpedo loads:

Fleet Snorkel:
As stated previously, 24 or 28 x 21” Torpedoes (Depending on whether Balao or Tench was converted).

Guppy IA conversions from SS-475 Tench class (originally 10 in tubes +18 reloads): 10+16 reloads = 26 total torpedoes.

Guppy IA conversions from Balao class (originally 10+14): 10+12 reloads = 22 total torpedoes.

Guppy II (and probably Guppy III) conversions from SS-313 Balao/Perch class (originally 10+14)
and SS-381 Balao/Sand Lance class (originally 10+14): 10+12 reloads = 22 total torpedoes.

Guppy II (and probably Guppy III) conversions from SS-475 Tench class (originally 10+18): 10+15 reloads = 25 total torpedoes.





RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:22 am
by MR_BURNS2
RB-57F was capable of flying as high as 80000 feet, depending on weather/loadout, according to a story in Lightning Boys. The Lightning pilot intercepted her at 80000 feet using emergency climb profile.

I suggest increasing it to 70000-80000 feet.

more info

Edit: 60000-65000 might be more realistic according to this NASA link:

http://jsc-aircraft-ops.jsc.nasa.gov/wb57/performance.html


RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:02 am
by hellfish6
The HNLMS Karel Doorman can only carry 11 medium-sized aircraft. According to my sources (most prominently the '62 JFS) it could carry 21, but typically deployed with 18 - 6 S-2Fs, 6 Sea Hawks, 4 HSS and 2 S-51s. I can only fit 5 Sea Hawks and 6 S-2Fs right now. The hangar only has space for three medium aircraft, which seems a tad small.

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:06 pm
by e2204588
3 inch rocket can attack aircraft and has 60% AirPoK.



RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:34 pm
by .Sirius
Thanks updated in next db release
ORIGINAL: hellfish6

The HNLMS Karel Doorman can only carry 11 medium-sized aircraft. According to my sources (most prominently the '62 JFS) it could carry 21, but typically deployed with 18 - 6 S-2Fs, 6 Sea Hawks, 4 HSS and 2 S-51s. I can only fit 5 Sea Hawks and 6 S-2Fs right now. The hangar only has space for three medium aircraft, which seems a tad small.

RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:35 pm
by .Sirius
Updated in next db release
ORIGINAL: fool12342000

3 inch rocket can attack aircraft and has 60% AirPoK.