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RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:51 pm
by captskillet
and Pecan Pie! [&o]

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:01 pm
by paulderynck
Any chance for a digital download on the pie?

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:22 pm
by captskillet
I wish, I could make a killing using my grandmother's recipe!

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:36 pm
by Manstein63
No one is forcing you to purchase this game. Every game that I have bought from Matrix has been physical & with a free download if this game release had given us the option of a digital only version I still would have bought the physical version. Even if they subsequently have a digital only version I will still be happy that I got the books as well.
Manstein63

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:09 pm
by 76mm
ORIGINAL: Manstein63
Every game that I have bought from Matrix has been physical & with a free download if this game release had given us the option of a digital only version I still would have bought the physical version. Even if they subsequently have a digital only version I will still be happy that I got the books as well.

Congratulations. Many feel differently. Next...

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:43 pm
by bo
ORIGINAL: 76mm

ORIGINAL: Manstein63
Every game that I have bought from Matrix has been physical & with a free download if this game release had given us the option of a digital only version I still would have bought the physical version. Even if they subsequently have a digital only version I will still be happy that I got the books as well.

Congratulations. Many feel differently. Next...
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Okay I'm next, really not that many, it sounds like many when the few are very loud about their displeasure about the books, some times down right nasty, and most of the posters who like the books are trying to be polite, but that ain't working.

Bo

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:47 pm
by Manstein63
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Congratulations. Many feel differently. Next...

I respect what you are saying but perhaps the 'mistake' that Matrix made was having a digital version available in the first place. Some people (and I am not pointing any fingers) will complain just for the sake of it. When WitE was first released many people complained that it was too expensive even for just a digital version. Should Matrix have given you a choice as to whether you wanted the hard copy or just a download probably they should. However it is quite possible that the agreement with A.D.G meant that they were obliged to release W.I.F in the way that they did so as not to diminish or supersced the brand in anyway.
Manstein63

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:55 pm
by danimaning2
I don´t understand some people.

The guys like me, that dont want the book, are not saying that removed from sale this books.
If you are happy with the books congratulations, its no problem for us.

But please, if i dont want them, respect me.

We can both be happy.

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:07 pm
by Manstein63
See my above post
Manstein63

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:35 pm
by bo
ORIGINAL: danimaning

I don´t understand some people.

The guys like me, that dont want the book, are not saying that removed from sale this books.
If you are happy with the books congratulations, its no problem for us.

But please, if i dont want them, respect me.

We can both be happy.


But you are not happy, and we will respect you if you give us respect, we have heard you and others many time, where do we not respect you? Where? Because posters here who have purchased the game happen to enjoy the books, is this disrespecting you and others? I think not.

Bo

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:43 pm
by danimaning2
ORIGINAL: bo
ORIGINAL: danimaning

I don´t understand some people.

The guys like me, that dont want the book, are not saying that removed from sale this books.
If you are happy with the books congratulations, its no problem for us.

But please, if i dont want them, respect me.

We can both be happy.


But you are not happy, and we will respect you if you give us respect, we have heard you and others many time, where do we not respect you? Where? Because posters here who have purchased the game happen to enjoy the books, is this disrespecting you and others? I think not.

Bo

Hi Bo

I give you an example:

I buy a car with a gold steering wheel, and i see other people asking for the same good car but without the gold steering wheel and i say: " i am very happy with my wheel and i dont want that the company sell that car without the gold whell"

Have this any sense for you?, not for me. This is happen with WiF.

(sorry my english) :-)

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:24 pm
by bo
ORIGINAL: danimaning

ORIGINAL: bo
ORIGINAL: danimaning

I don´t understand some people.

The guys like me, that dont want the book, are not saying that removed from sale this books.
If you are happy with the books congratulations, its no problem for us.

But please, if i dont want them, respect me.

We can both be happy.


But you are not happy, and we will respect you if you give us respect, we have heard you and others many time, where do we not respect you? Where? Because posters here who have purchased the game happen to enjoy the books, is this disrespecting you and others? I think not.

Bo

Hi Bo

I give you an example:

I buy a car with a gold steering wheel, and i see other people asking for the same good car but without the gold steering wheel and i say: " i am very happy with my wheel and i dont want that the company sell that car without the gold whell"

Have this any sense for you?, not for me. This is happen with WiF.

(sorry my english) :-)

Hi danimaning


Your English is fine I understand you perfectly. Of course what you say makes perfect sense, I am not coming down on you in anyway, I see posters saying they like the books in a very pleasant way and some of the posters who do not want the books get a little nasty with them, not referring to you, but sometimes comments get all lumped together and just makes posters angry on both sides of the issue.

It is what it is and unless Eric changes what Matrix has been doing with the books and the downloads I do not see how more complaining is going to resolve this. I mean this, I would just like to see everyone enjoy this wonderful game is that to much of me to ask?

Bo

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:05 am
by 76mm
ORIGINAL: bo
Okay I'm next, really not that many, it sounds like many when the few are very loud about their displeasure about the books, some times down right nasty, and most of the posters who like the books are trying to be polite, but that ain't working.
hmm, my post wasn't intended to be "nasty", and I don't think it was; if it came across that way I apologize to Manstein.

But at the same time, do we really need to hear over and over and over again that some people like the books? Everyone understands that, and no one is suggesting that they shouldn't like them. I think its great the Matrix created the hardcover books for those who want them.

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:44 am
by Manstein63

hmm, my post wasn't intended to be "nasty", and I don't think it was; if it came across that way I apologize to Manstein.

No apology is necessary as no offence was taken
Manstein63

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:22 am
by Hotschi
ORIGINAL: 76mm

But at the same time, do we really need to hear over and over and over again that some people like the books?

Yes, since they are part of the current package. You are asking for too much - just because YOU do not like the books, nobody should thus be allowed to write that he likes them?

Talk about being self-centered. [8|]

You should learn to show some respect for opinions and tastes different to yours.

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:43 am
by DSWargamer
ORIGINAL: 76mm
ORIGINAL: bo
Okay I'm next, really not that many, it sounds like many when the few are very loud about their displeasure about the books, some times down right nasty, and most of the posters who like the books are trying to be polite, but that ain't working.
hmm, my post wasn't intended to be "nasty", and I don't think it was; if it came across that way I apologize to Manstein.

But at the same time, do we really need to hear over and over and over again that some people like the books? Everyone understands that, and no one is suggesting that they shouldn't like them. I think its great the Matrix created the hardcover books for those who want them.

Hmm put yourself in the place of the publisher, the dudes that made the product, the original owners of the product it is based on......

Now sure it is a necessary thing, that you need to know if there are problems, and you want to be made aware if there are any..... But no one likes hearing it over and over. No one likes hearing complaining over and over regardless of validity.

But think of something you have done in your life, that took a lot of effort, that took a lot of time, that many thought wouldn't ever happen, are you suggesting, you'd ever have any trouble with people droning on and on and on about how pleased they were with your accomplishment?

We understand, the more often we gush on about the books, the more it seems likely they might fail to find there was ever a problem with the choice that was made to make the order process a process whereby you either ordered the physical shipment, or there was no purchase.

We realize our praise runs counter to the campaign to get them to allow a just digital download.

But don't expect them to ever tire of us saying how great any portion of the purchase was.

That would be illogical :)

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:22 pm
by Toby42
The books are nice, but if I had a choice I would probably pass on them. Especially if I had to pay a Premium for them. Shipping here in the US was not that big of a deal. I can understand people in other parts of the World being upset with shipping charges and extra taxes, etc. But it is what it is! I wanted the game and was prepared to accept the books as part of the deal! If you don't want the deal, don't make the buy. Real Simple....

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:47 pm
by bo
ORIGINAL: 76mm
ORIGINAL: bo
Okay I'm next, really not that many, it sounds like many when the few are very loud about their displeasure about the books, some times down right nasty, and most of the posters who like the books are trying to be polite, but that ain't working.
hmm, my post wasn't intended to be "nasty", and I don't think it was; if it came across that way I apologize to Manstein.

But at the same time, do we really need to hear over and over and over again that some people like the books? Everyone understands that, and no one is suggesting that they shouldn't like them. I think its great the Matrix created the hardcover books for those who want them.

I was not referring to you at all or I would have named you, I should have used post reply rather then your quote, did not think your post was nasty in any way, I am referring to some very mean posts during this particular topic by several people, it seems to me that when other people praise their books it inflames some passions around here, so just maybe we could lower the noise a little, both sides.

Bo

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:54 pm
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Any chance for a digital download on the pie?

You'll need a 3D printer.

RE: Download vs. Physical Option

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:39 pm
by 76mm
ORIGINAL: Hotschi
You are asking for too much - just because YOU do not like the books, nobody should thus be allowed to write that he likes them?

Talk about being self-centered. [8|]

You should learn to show some respect for opinions and tastes different to yours.
hmmm, I have plenty of respect for opinions and tastes other than my own, but that consideration should work both ways.
ORIGINAL: DSWargamer
Hmm put yourself in the place of the publisher, the dudes that made the product, the original owners of the product it is based on......

Now sure it is a necessary thing, that you need to know if there are problems, and you want to be made aware if there are any..... But no one likes hearing it over and over. No one likes hearing complaining over and over regardless of validity.

But think of something you have done in your life, that took a lot of effort, that took a lot of time, that many thought wouldn't ever happen, are you suggesting, you'd ever have any trouble with people droning on and on and on about how pleased they were with your accomplishment?

We understand, the more often we gush on about the books, the more it seems likely they might fail to find there was ever a problem with the choice that was made to make the order process a process whereby you either ordered the physical shipment, or there was no purchase.

We realize our praise runs counter to the campaign to get them to allow a just digital download.

But don't expect them to ever tire of us saying how great any portion of the purchase was.
heh, fair enough...